Wow, how bad would it suck for your team to go 8-4 and not get an invite to a bowl.

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How many teams besides IL get in despite not having 6 wins versus D1 teams?

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Good question....it more has to do with bowl tie-ins for a conference. There are 13 teams with 6 wins that are in bowl games this year. Temple was considered for the New orleans Bowl but Ohio got it because they beat Temple head to head.

The MAC sucks hard.

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I was reading that Temple could have gotten in and played another Mac team in the Little Caesar's Bowl, because I guess if you don't play the team in your conference in the regular season, you can play them in a bowl.

I guess it was that Temple finished the season losing 2 straight games was the reason they aren't going bowling.

There are countless examples of MAC teams getting shafted in the past (NIU 2003), Temple is not the first and they won't be the last. There were five teams with 8+ wins. When the conference only has three tie-ins you knew there was a good chance someone was staying home.

It will continue to happen since the Big 12 conference successfully petitioned this past offseason that 6-6 teams can be chosen over teams with winning records as an at-large. The change didn't actually help any of the 6-6 BCS schools this season but it will in the future.

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Isn't the job of any bowl to sell tickets and bring in TV revenue? Granted Temple brought some 15-20K to the Eagle Bank Bowl, as a whole they got 23K butts in the seats since no one local to DC really cared about a Temple/UCLA matchup while a game of 7-5 schools, UConn and South Carolina brought in 46K for a randon bowl that no one will remember. Before you say I am hating on the Huskies or the like, the GMAC bowl last year only had 35K for CMU vs Troy (who is basically local to there). Big schools put butts in the seats which makes the bowls much happier than taking a smaller school with a limited fan base.

If I remember correctly, the MAC was a very good conference back in 2003 and I thought NIU was more than worthy of a bid. The conference has really fallen on hard times the past 5+ years to the point where no team can lay claim to being owed anything. The level of play is really pitifull

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I think the original point of this thread was that an 8-4 team stayed at home.

Obviously, as you have stated, bowls don't go to deserving teams. When you have 6-6 BCS teams going with only five 1-A wins and then 8-4 teams such as Temple staying home then there is a problem. This problem is even more evident when an 8-4 UConn team can get into a BCS bowl (who lost to the 5th place team in the MAC) while #10 Boise St. has to play in a minor bowl.

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The BCS and the bowl system is all about money. Boo hoo for Temple, but if the bowl system felt the MAC was a better conference, there would be more than 3 guaranteed bids for it. Even Conference USA has 5 bids and I can't even think of teams from there.

This is the problem. I could care less if Temple got an invite, but it shouldn't be about "what the bowl 'system' feels".

However, Temple did beat Uconn this year - they got a BCS bowl invite. That would be huge in the eyes of the committee if this were a selection process similar to the basketball tourney. Just sayin....

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Let's be real - I think a Cubs World Series in our lifetime is more likely than seeing a playoff system instituted for FBS.

I have no problem with the 5th best team in one of the worst conferences in the country not going to a bowl.

If it was basketball, which is the gold standard of the "We need a tournament!" argument they wouldn't have gotten in either the NCAA or NIT.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

CUSA only has five bowls due to their geography location, not due to their success (or lack thereof). Most of the bowls are down south where their teams are located.

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The 5th best team in the Big Ten didn't make the NCAA tourney last year. I suspect neither spanky nor NIU Husky were complaining about that.

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So what you are telling me is that is based on the possibility of fans travelling to bowls which equals money. Which is what my original post said.

Temple was pretty good with Bernard Pierce last year, and they were complete garbage without him. He might have been ready for a bowl, but then again, he might not have. Without Pierce, Temple might only be the 7th or 8th best team in the conference.


Conference USA is better than the MAC. They deserve more bids.

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They have one team ranked 25th in the BCS and they deserve five bowls? I don't think so.

You probably also think UConn deserves a BCS bowl.

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Ah, good to see the Big Ten posse out and about and feeling frisky today.

Try reading this thread again, Spanky ain't complaining. But good thought none the less.

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So who is a part of this "Big Ten Posse"?

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If you have to ask, it will do me no good to explain. But thanks for jumping in!

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+1

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Hey, I tried to offer up an olive branch to the NIU faithful but your guy was having none of it and my ridiculous thoughts on the GLORIOUS NIU Football program.

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He's on his own. He's not my guy.

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