Who's the best coach of the three? I was talking with a few buddies about this tonight and I was the only one who took Izzo.

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Seriously? Izzo seems like a no brainer to me.

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"There is a high statistical probability of death by gunshot. A punch to the face is also likely."

Izzo

Maybe your buddies aren't the brightest peoples?

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My first response is Izzo, but I think that maybe because I have always been a Big 10 guy. But looking at the numbers I do not think it is even close to a "no brainer." I think you can make a strong case for any of them.

Tom Izzo

412-168 (.710%)


One NCAA Division I Championship: (2000)
Six Regional Championships - Final Four: (1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2009, 2010)
Seven Big Ten Championships: (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2012)
Three Big Ten Tournament Championships: (1999, 2000, 2012)
Accomplishments
Two NCAA Championship Games: (2000, 2009)
Seven Elite Eight: (1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010)
Ten Sweet 16: (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2005, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012)
Fifteen NCAA Tournament Bids: (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012) Awards
Associated Press National Coach of the Year (1998)
Henry Iba Award (1998)
Big Ten Coach of the Year (1998, 2009, 2012)

Rick Pitino

612–227 (.65%)

NCAA Division I Tournament Championship (1996)
Regional Championships - Final Four (1987, 1993, 1996, 1997, 2005)
America East Tournament Championship (1983)
America East Regular Season Championship (1980, 1983)
SEC Tournament Championship (1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1997)
SEC Regular Season Championship (1995, 1996)
C-USA Tournament Championship (2003, 2005)
C-USA Regular Season Championship (2005)
Big East Tournament Championship (2009, 2012)
Big East Regular Season Championship (2009) Awards
NABC National Coach of the Year 6th time (1987)
John Wooden National Coach of the Year (1987)
SEC Coach of the Year (1990, 1991, 1996)
C-USA Coach of the Year (2005)

Jim Boeheim

889–303 (.746)

NCAA Division I National Championship (2003)
Regional Championships – Final Four (1987, 1996, 2003)
Big East Tournament Championship (1981, 1988,
1992, 2005, 2006)
Big East Regular Season Championship (1980, 1986, 1987, 1990, 1991, 2000, 2003, 2010, 2012)
Gold medal – Men's Basketball (2008 Summer Olympics)
Gold medal – FIBA World Championship (2010) Awards
Naismith College Coach of the Year (2010)
AP Coach of the Year (2010)
NABC Coach of the Year (2010)
Henry Iba Award (2010)
The Sporting News National Coach of the Year (2010)
Big East Coach of the Year (1984, 1991, 2000, 2010)
John R. Wooden Legends of Coaching Award (2006)
Clair Bee Coach of the Year (2000)

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

It is probably just my perception, but when I think of Boeheim I think of his team's failures in the tournament.

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With each of them having only 1 championship each of them have their own list of failures. But you are right Boeheim is generally associated with those failures.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Yeah it just seems like he got that reputation and its stuck.

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Three of my friends said Pitino. None said Boeheim but two of them said he was better than Izzo.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I think I would list them as

1a. Boeheim
1b. Izzo

8. Pitino

But that may just be because I hate Pitino from his days at Kentucky and the awful run in the NBA he had.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I would consider Pitino the worst game coach of the three, but the best recruiter.

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If it is best in game coach then it is Izzo by a mile. He is one of the greatest in game coaches of all time IMO.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

That's what I think as well.

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So...like a no brainer?

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"There is a high statistical probability of death by gunshot. A punch to the face is also likely."

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Yeah I've always felt like Izzo's teams have overachieved and Boeheim's underachieved. Not sure how fair that is.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

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izzo

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H to the....

A good question would be why isn't Izzo a better recruiter? He's got one of the most stable programs in college sports, has a school with a good tradition and one of the five best players of all time as an alum, and has never had a senior class not get to the Final Four.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

i could be wrong but i think izzo runs a clean program..that is why he gets less talent than those other guys..he acclomplishes as much with less talent..izzo trumps those guys...i think izzo is the best coach in the country

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My guess would be that he wants long term players so he doesnt go after 1 and done guys.

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I really doubt Coach K is dirty and he has 10x the McDonalds All Americans that Izzo lands.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

He runs a clean enough program.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

i doubt coach k runs a dirty program too..but he lands the best talent ...harder to get players to east lansing than north carolina...if izzo had dukes' or unc players he would have 8 championships by now...the walkons at duke turn down very good D1 schools scholarships...izzo>coach k

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Izzo is real good, but this is just crazy. Stop yourself.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Yeah Wooden couldnt even do that these days. Too much randomness to the tournament. Thats another comment worthy of the Bad Thoughts thread.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

maybe 8 is a little steep..6 for sure..but we will never know

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wooden would not have anywhere near the success today as in the past...he ran a dirty program and had the best talent...you should win with the best talent.

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Wooden was his generation's Calipari



Why does everyone assume Krazooski is clean?