You shouldn't. Nobody is comparing his actions with Sandusky's, but he acted cowardly and selfishly when presented with eyewitness accounts and multiple allegations. His legacy deserves to be tarnished every bit that it will be.

Also I don't but the senile defense just because Bernstein and others joked about it before this incident. While I'm sure he doesn't have the mental faculties he did 30 years ago, he has not displayed public signs of Alzheimer's or anything that would prohibit him from acting morally on this issue. He's been plenty capable of handling press conferences, giving interviews, and doing football- related work. He's plenty guilty in this whole mess.

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I dont think hes senile. Hes an old guy and he was an old guy twelve years ago. His approach seemed to be "I dont want to deal with this shit". Im not saying he was right. Thats why he has to go.

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This makes more sense to me and is pretty much the impression I got when I first heard of this story. Weren't there reports that Paterno did everything he was legally obligated to do with this case?

I agree. And that's cowardly, selfish, and wrong. He deserves the legacy-tarnishing press coverage and op-eds he's receiving.

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I say go the broken hip route with him. Old dudes never bounce back from that. It killed Fahey Flynn, it'll take care of Paterno.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

In my opinoin, this is a sad situation all around, it's sad that Paterno will be going out this way and it could be by today.

I will also ask this, if your Penn State and that place is getting cleaned out, do you still let Paterno on your campus, he was your big money-maker.

Even before the news of the sex abuse scandal at (Not So) Happy Valley, PA over the weekend involving the Penn State football program, I've thought that Joe Paterno has needed to pack his bags and step down for quite sometime. He's 83 years old and not getting any younger.

While Paterno may not have done anything wrong legally, he's guilty in the court of public opinion and from a moral standpoint, Paterno needs to step down and wash his own hands of the filth stemming from what happened.

SHARK, in your opinion, is there anything to be said for the legacy that Paterno will leave behind somehow trumping his involvement in recent events? Or is he pretty much screwed?

Despite his coaching accomplishment over the years, it's guilt...by association. There are people everywhere wondering why JoePa didn't do more, even if he did NOTHING WRONG by letter of the law.

Yahoo! Sports scribe Dan Wetzel was a guest on "The Dan Patrick Show" yesterday. He says Paterno did everything he was supposed to do legally turning over the info to his athletic director, but people still need answers beyond the letter of the law. It's going to hurt recruiting and tarnish Penn State's image, that's for sure.

Paterno said it in the Grand Jury testimony. He said McQuery told him that he saw Sandusky "fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy."

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You should look into the case and the details before expressing sympathy for Paterno.

Fair points. Just out of curiosity, how do you feel this situation (which is obviously very different) compares to the negligence Notre Dame's Brian Kelly showcased with his whole ordeal and the death of a student?

Ugie just read the damn story. Its nothing like Kelly or anything else.

Why is a 58 year old pedophile alone with a kid in a shower at close to 10pm?
Why didn't the strapping 28 year old assistant do anything to stop it?
Fuck Sandusky, fuck Joe Paterno, fuck Penn State, and if there is any justice in this world,
the victims will at least have some cash laying around after the dust settles on the lawsuits.

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Brian Kelly should've been fired after the Declan Sullivan tragedy. The same for AD Jack Swarbrick at Notre Dame, Ugueth. What happened to the Notre Dame videographer's tragic death was clearly preventable and no amount of $$$$ brings Declan back.

How about you let me talk to my guy SHARK for a little bit? How about that?

Damn man. You've been all over my ass for the last two days. I'm just having a conversation with this dude.

I agree with you. I think reason would agree, then, that Paterno should therefore be fired.

It's called responsibility & accountability.

I dont understand why you post opinions on things you obviously havent even read about.

The fact that you are sympathetic to Paterno and are trying to compare this to Kelly just shows that.

I dont get why you post opinions when you have no facts on a given story.

Well, that's it, then. He's admitted under oath to having known ... right after it occurred. He should have gone to Sandusky right away . . . .and then the cops.

Then I guess it's a good thing I wasn't addressing you in my questions to SHARK.

I took issue with your first ignorant statement about Paterno being "dragged down by the actions of another man". It was not a question to SHARK.

No offense Ugie. I just wonder sometimes if you even like/follow any sport outside of golf.

How do you feel this situation compares to the tattoo scandal at Ohio State?

They're 2 different issues, one involving a Notre Dame videographer whose death was clearly preventable and the arrogance beneath the Golden Dome was outrageous. The one with Penn State and their football program is absolutely disgusting. Joe Paterno may have done everything according to the legal letter of the law, but both him & Brian Kelly should be sent packing. Both incidents happened under their damn watch!

Ignorant statement? Damn. Last time I checked, Paterno wasn't the one fondling little boys. That must have been in one of the reports I didn't read.

Save your condescending shit about what sports I do or do not follow. I'm subjected to the same crap you hear on the radio or TV every day.

It's like someone can't even ask a question around here.

I'm glad at least one person understands the similarities.

I wonder if that was the reason why Joe Paterno's presser was cancelled today. I'm not so sure the sportswriters & reporters who normally follow Penn State football were going to ask the tough questions compared to the ones from the FOX News Channels, CNNs, MSNBCs and other harder news outlets of the world...

It's more than a sports news story, folks. This is one you'll see on "The CBS Evening News with Scott Pelley", "NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams", "ABC's World News w/Diane Sawyer", ABC's "Good Morning America", NBC's "Today Show", etc.

You're probably right.

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You said Paterno was being dragged down by the actions of another man. He is not. Everyone who is holding Paterno responsible is doing it because he didnt do enough to stop it.

You obviously didnt get the facts before you posted.

And its not condescending. You frequently make statements on this board that seem like the thoughts of a non sports fan. John Salmons, QBR being a ranking system, trying to take credit away from a GM because he "had a lot talented players", Joe Paterno is a sympatheic figure in the Sandusky scandal, Tiger Woods is bad for golf....

Indeed someone can ask a question. You dont do that. You post a misguided opinion then embark on a back and forth where you finally get the facts and amend the first opinion.

Im not being a sports fan snob. Im the first to admit when I dont know about certain aspects of sports/topics discussed here.

It seems like you are against reading an article or two on the subject before posting. I think thats a bad policy.

Now yell at me like im being a jerk, because Im giving you honest feedback on your opinions that you expressed on a public message board.