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 Post subject: Re: Next NIU coach?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:39 am 
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Outside of the obvious difference in out of conference record, which is mostly because the NIU schedule was much harder, the NIU Huskies 2010 season is looking a lot like the 2008 Ball State Cardinals season.

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11 posts in a row without a response from NIU_H and you want to know if you need more examples? :lol:

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I'm looking at most of the coaches mentioned here and they seem to have had a significant amount of experience at this level before being given their opportunity. Mahlzan has five years experience at this level.

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I'm looking at most of the coaches mentioned here and they seem to have had a significant amount of experience at this level before being given their opportunity. Mahlzan has five years experience at this level.

Hey, whatever it takes to make yourself believe that Guz Malzahn is anxious to take a pay cut and become head coach at NIU.

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Nevermind posse, he doesn't get it. Let him have it....

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 Post subject: Re: Next NIU coach?
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
The other thing is that more often than not being the head coach of a non-BCS team is a career dead end. Obviously some do well and move on but most of them end up being average for a while and eventually get fired and end up as an assistant again.

Mike Locksley actually is a pretty good example of this. He may actually have benefited from working his way up through the coordinator ranks and eventually making the immediate jump. Petrino is probably going to take that route.


If you coach at EMU, Kent State, etc. that is probably true since those are tough programs to turn around.

NIU was set up for success by Joe Novak. There is a good foundation here. So if you are a legitimately good coach then you don't have to do much to keep it going.

But there are a bunch of former MAC head coaches whose career didn't end in the MAC. Gary Pinkel, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Turner Gill, Brady Hoke (who is now being mentioned for BCS jobs), and now Jerry Kill.

I could list more, but these are just a few that come up off the top of my head.

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Nevermind posse, he doesn't get it. Let him have it....

Thank you for the approval.

Not you. You have to stop.

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NIU_Huskie wrote:
I'm looking at most of the coaches mentioned here and they seem to have had a significant amount of experience at this level before being given their opportunity. Mahlzan has five years experience at this level.

At D1? That's more than Chip Kelly who had 2 years at the D1 level.


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 Post subject: Re: Next NIU coach?
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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
NIU_Huskie wrote:
I'm looking at most of the coaches mentioned here and they seem to have had a significant amount of experience at this level before being given their opportunity. Mahlzan has five years experience at this level.

At D1? That's more than Chip Kelly who had 2 years at the D1 level.


That's why i said most of the coaches and not all.

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How can NIU even replace the genius of someone who was 2-12 against FBS teams with winning records?


He was also 0-3 in the postseason.

Take away his three wins over 1-AA teams and he was 20-16 against 1-A teams.

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NIU_Huskie wrote:

If you coach at EMU, Kent State, etc. that is probably true since those are tough programs to turn around.

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You could of said the same about NIU in the Mid 90's. ANy program is capable of being turned around with the right coach. Look at Temple.

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If we're going to go after a BCS offensive coordinator i'd much rather have Gus Mahlzan.
Would you take Urban Meyer?

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Maybe Gary Crowton.

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NIU_Huskie wrote:
If you coach at EMU, Kent State, etc. that is probably true since those are tough programs to turn around..


You could of said the same about NIU in the Mid 90's. ANy program is capable of being turned around with the right coach. Look at Temple.


I agree, but NIU has a very solid foundation now. We were in the Big West and also independent for some of those years. Moving back to the MAC helped us.

Temple would have continued to flounder, dropped to 1-AA, or got rid of 1-A football all together if they stayed independent.

I seriously wonder about EMU though, they have a huge shadow cast over them with Michigan only a few miles away. I don't know if they will ever be able to lure enough talent over there to build something.

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Would you take Urban Meyer?


Who wouldn't want Urban Meyer. That guy has won at BGSU, Utah, and Florida. He also has two National Championships on his resume.

Everyone with an open coaching position will be knocking on his door.

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So, you think it will be Malzahn then?

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I want Joe Paterno.

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So, you think it will be Malzahn then?


If we are going to look at assistant coaches i think you have to look at him. The worst he can say is no and you move on. There will be plenty of candidates interested in our program.

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If we are going to look at assistant coaches i think you have to look at him. The worst he can say is no and you move on. There will be plenty of candidates interested in our program.
I'm just wondering. Who would be your top 5 legitimate candidates?

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NIU_Huskie wrote:
If we are going to look at assistant coaches i think you have to look at him. The worst he can say is no and you move on. There will be plenty of candidates interested in our program.
I'm just wondering. Who would be your top 5 legitimate candidates?


Honestly, i don't follow 1-AA and lower at all to know what good head coaches are down there.

I certainly don't follow the careers of the assistants at this level either.

I have heard names such as Sam Pittman (who used to be at NIU), Matt Canada, (also used to be at NIU), PJ Fleck (not enough experience), and Scott Schafer (heard we aren't interested in him this time around) thrown around.

I like Mahlzan, Phil Fulmer (he is old, so i don't know how many head coaching opportunities he's going to get), and Jeff Bower.

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NIU_Huskie wrote:
If we are going to look at assistant coaches i think you have to look at him. The worst he can say is no and you move on. There will be plenty of candidates interested in our program.
I'm just wondering. Who would be your top 5 legitimate candidates?

Not counting jesus?

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Minnesota called Barry Alvarez - why doesn't NIU?


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