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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
https://miami.rivals.com/news/american- ... mi-players These guys are going to be making millions when this is all done with. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
They should make a bunch but of course since it’s the NCAA they’ll get it in the sleaziest way possible. Some billionaire’s kid will walk on some elite team and the family business will pay stupid NIL $ to the rest of the team. |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
KDdidit wrote: They should make a bunch but of course since it’s the NCAA they’ll get it in the sleaziest way possible. Some billionaire’s kid will walk on some elite team and the family business will pay stupid NIL $ to the rest of the team. I think you are on to something here. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
KDdidit wrote: They should make a bunch but of course since it’s the NCAA they’ll get it in the sleaziest way possible. Some billionaire’s kid will walk on some elite team and the family business will pay stupid NIL $ to the rest of the team. Sounds like high level AAU or IMG. Get the kid who sucks with the rich dad to cover everyone else. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
Sounds like a pay cut @ Miami. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
Get that paper I guess. |
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| Author: | Augie [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
Welcome to the wild west. NCAA is going to be a clusterfuck as a result of NIL's. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
It’s always been a clusterfuck but at least the kids get some more $ now |
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| Author: | casual fan [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
KDdidit wrote: Get that paper I guess. I understand "amateur" is a very blurry line in today's world, but breakdown those couple tweets. You have a player with a scholarship to the school, also under contract with an outside entity, and also officially has an agent. Bonus points for admitting his "college" experience is 100% about "show me the money!". Just start a real bball minor league and be done with it. Probably don't have a bunch of rich boosters looking to drop millions on the Des Moines Bulls though. |
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| Author: | shakes [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
Augie wrote: Welcome to the wild west. NCAA is going to be a clusterfuck as a result of NIL's. yep. I like NIL's and I like being able to transfer without sitting a year, but having both of those at the same time is a disaster. |
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| Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
shakes wrote: Augie wrote: Welcome to the wild west. NCAA is going to be a clusterfuck as a result of NIL's. yep. I like NIL's and I like being able to transfer without sitting a year, but having both of those at the same time is a disaster. It’s definitely new/uncomfortable, but I don’t know how you can have a payment scheme without having the ability for the person being paid to negotiate. Can you condition the NIL contract on participation at a specific school? |
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| Author: | One Post [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
This Ends in Antioch wrote: shakes wrote: Augie wrote: Welcome to the wild west. NCAA is going to be a clusterfuck as a result of NIL's. yep. I like NIL's and I like being able to transfer without sitting a year, but having both of those at the same time is a disaster. It’s definitely new/uncomfortable, but I don’t know how you can have a payment scheme without having the ability for the person being paid to negotiate. Can you condition the NIL contract on participation at a specific school? I would think you could do that for the current year, and possibly have clawbacks for prior years. There are two problems there: (1) good luck getting the clawback and (2) it will be a race to the bottom and nobody will have clawbacks. You likely would have the best shot to condition it on where you are playing in the current year. You could set the payment schedule to coincide with the end of the academic year and condition it on enrollment for that whole period. |
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| Author: | One Post [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
Augie wrote: Welcome to the wild west. NCAA is going to be a clusterfuck as a result of NIL's. 10 years ago a scholarship athlete would say: I can't transfer, I'm working for free and my coaches keep making more and more money. The NCAA is a clusterfuck. The NCAA member schools had a long runway to figure out a way to pay players and allow them freedom to transfer in an organized manner. They chose to be obstructionist on both, now it's out of their control. |
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| Author: | Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
Just turn the NCAA into a defined set of U21 or U23 leagues. Nobody cares if anyone goes to class, so just stop the charade. If a kid wants a scholarship and actually wants to go to class, sure let him or her do that. But enough with the mandatory theatrics. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
As an alum of a private school with a $200MM practice facility for football sitting on the lakefront, the sport passed ridiculous decades ago. Good for him. |
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| Author: | Warren Newson [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote: Just turn the NCAA into a defined set of U21 or U23 leagues. Nobody cares if anyone goes to class, so just stop the charade. If a kid wants a scholarship and actually wants to go to class, sure let him or her do that. But enough with the mandatory theatrics. It's ridiculous, but college sports need the myth of the student athlete to continue to be relevant. If they openly admit that they're nothing more than a minor league for professional sports, and treat their players accordingly, people will eventually be as interested in college sports as they are the Charlotte Knights. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
Warren Newson wrote: Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote: Just turn the NCAA into a defined set of U21 or U23 leagues. Nobody cares if anyone goes to class, so just stop the charade. If a kid wants a scholarship and actually wants to go to class, sure let him or her do that. But enough with the mandatory theatrics. It's ridiculous, but college sports need the myth of the student athlete to continue to be relevant. If they openly admit that they're nothing more than a minor league for professional sports, and treat they're players accordingly, people will eventually be as interested in college sports as they are the Charlotte Knights. Strangely enough my son was just commenting on the high price of a minor league game in Nashville. He didn't complain, he just went to a Vanderbilt game. Which always draws a good crowd. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
Regular Reader wrote: Warren Newson wrote: Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote: Just turn the NCAA into a defined set of U21 or U23 leagues. Nobody cares if anyone goes to class, so just stop the charade. If a kid wants a scholarship and actually wants to go to class, sure let him or her do that. But enough with the mandatory theatrics. It's ridiculous, but college sports need the myth of the student athlete to continue to be relevant. If they openly admit that they're nothing more than a minor league for professional sports, and treat they're players accordingly, people will eventually be as interested in college sports as they are the Charlotte Knights. Strangely enough my son was just commenting on the high price of a minor league game in Nashville. He didn't complain, he just went to a Vanderbilt game. Which always draws a good crowd. That new stadium in Nashville is very nice. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
I've heard that it is. But like most of newer Nashville, very antiseptic. |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
Regular Reader wrote: Warren Newson wrote: Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote: Just turn the NCAA into a defined set of U21 or U23 leagues. Nobody cares if anyone goes to class, so just stop the charade. If a kid wants a scholarship and actually wants to go to class, sure let him or her do that. But enough with the mandatory theatrics. It's ridiculous, but college sports need the myth of the student athlete to continue to be relevant. If they openly admit that they're nothing more than a minor league for professional sports, and treat they're players accordingly, people will eventually be as interested in college sports as they are the Charlotte Knights. Strangely enough my son was just commenting on the high price of a minor league game in Nashville. He didn't complain, he just went to a Vanderbilt game. Which always draws a good crowd. I'd rather go to a SEC baseball game than a 3 ring circus minor league game any day. Hell, I'd rather go to a high school game. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
Nardi wrote: Regular Reader wrote: Warren Newson wrote: Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote: Just turn the NCAA into a defined set of U21 or U23 leagues. Nobody cares if anyone goes to class, so just stop the charade. If a kid wants a scholarship and actually wants to go to class, sure let him or her do that. But enough with the mandatory theatrics. It's ridiculous, but college sports need the myth of the student athlete to continue to be relevant. If they openly admit that they're nothing more than a minor league for professional sports, and treat they're players accordingly, people will eventually be as interested in college sports as they are the Charlotte Knights. Strangely enough my son was just commenting on the high price of a minor league game in Nashville. He didn't complain, he just went to a Vanderbilt game. Which always draws a good crowd. I'd rather go to a SEC baseball game than a 3 ring circus minor league game any day. Hell, I'd rather go to a high school game. When I lived in Atlanta during the late eighties, I never thought about a Braves game. But it was nice to see ACC games at Georgia Tech. And free iirc |
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| Author: | newper [ Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
One heretofore unmentioned difference between a minor league and a college is that a college doesn't pack up and leave town to go find a newer stadium or some more lucrative tax break. The college helps anchor the team to a location that isn't going to move. This typically means a longer and more consistant history with the program. You do run the risk that the school decides to stop participating in the sport though that seems very unlikely for your football or basketball programs at the top level of the NCAA. There's also a tie in with alumni that you can't get from a minor league team. You can't graduate or get a diploma from a minor league team. And while it is certainly not a requirement that you needed to graduate (or even attend) a school to be a fan, it certainly predisposes one to have a closer tie to the college over the minor league if that is the case. |
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| Author: | casual fan [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... -john-ruiz That's a lot more than $6k....... |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
Wait until the Saudis discover the power of sponsoring the SEC to achieve goodwill among the American electorate. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
casual fan wrote: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10040029-jaden-rashada-reportedly-agreed-to-95m-nil-contract-with-miami-booster-john-ruiz That's a lot more than $6k....... I just appreciate the lawyers have found a way to get paid in all of this |
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| Author: | casual fan [ Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/9/14/ ... linois-nil I guess it's just the obvious next step. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
So far not enough NIL $ for Miami to beat Middle Tennessee State |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
KDdidit wrote: So far not enough NIL $ for Miami to beat Middle Tennessee State Go Blue Raiders!!!! |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
An incoming freshman qb at Florida is walking away from the school because his alleged $13.2MM NIL deal reportedly fell through. Good grief I expected a million or two a year tops, but this is hilarious. |
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| Author: | casual fan [ Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: $6k for every Miami Scholarship Athlete |
Regular Reader wrote: An incoming freshman qb at Florida is walking away from the school because his alleged $13.2MM NIL deal reportedly fell through. Good grief I expected a million or two a year tops, but this is hilarious. It's the wild west, and no going back now. Think about how many "star" recruits never even make the NFL. NIL is the only "professional" money they will ever see. |
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