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They almost pulled off the upset tonight, but they couldn't quite get past Western Carolina.

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 Post subject: Re: DePaul Basketball
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I have lost all hope in this program.

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What the hell did you expect? I know it's only 2 games, but new head coach Oliver Purnell's got quite a rebuilding project on his hands at DePaul! This rebuilding project is going to take a lot of time! Anyone who thinks DePaul's doing squat this season is kidding themselves! You know it, I know it, Coach Purnell knows it, ZZ & LoHo know it!


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What the hell did you expect? I know it's only 2 games, but new head coach Oliver Purnell's got quite a rebuilding project on his hands at DePaul! This rebuilding project is going to take a lot of time! Anyone who thinks DePaul's doing squat this season is kidding themselves! You know it, I know it, Coach Purnell knows it, ZZ & LoHo know it!


But does the crazed menopausal Athletic Director know it?
SHE IS AN ABSOLUTE IDIOT......
They are a disgrace to the Big East.....

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 Post subject: Re: DePaul Basketball
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Aggravated Sox Fan Bob wrote:
SHARK wrote:
What the hell did you expect? I know it's only 2 games, but new head coach Oliver Purnell's got quite a rebuilding project on his hands at DePaul! This rebuilding project is going to take a lot of time! Anyone who thinks DePaul's doing squat this season is kidding themselves! You know it, I know it, Coach Purnell knows it, ZZ & LoHo know it!


But does the crazed menopausal Athletic Director know it?
SHE IS AN ABSOLUTE IDIOT......
They are a disgrace to the Big East.....



Yes they are. LONG LONG LONG Gone are the days....Aguirre, Cummings, Patterson, & the like.

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 Post subject: Re: DePaul Basketball
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Yes they are. LONG LONG LONG Gone are the days....Aguirre, Cummings, Patterson, & the like.


When I was a kid, I found myself standing next to Dallas Comegys. He seemed like a giant.

Not sure why Purnell would take this job. It's the second consecutive backwards career move. It must have been the dollars.


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Yes they are. LONG LONG LONG Gone are the days....Aguirre, Cummings, Patterson, & the like.


When I was a kid, I found myself standing next to Dallas Comegys. He seemed like a giant.

Not sure why Purnell would take this job. It's the second consecutive backwards career move. It must have been the dollars.

I'm sure there were more than 800,000 reasons why he took the job.

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 Post subject: Re: DePaul Basketball
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Which is fair enough. It's just too bad that the increased cash has twice meant taking lower profile jobs. Once I can understand, but twice is a trend.

Is he making $2M per year? If so, I believe that put him in the upper echelon NCAABB coaching salaries.


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 Post subject: Re: DePaul Basketball
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Which is fair enough. It's just too bad that the increased cash has twice meant taking lower profile jobs. Once I can understand, but twice is a trend.

Is he making $2M per year? If so, I believe that put him in the upper echelon NCAABB coaching salaries.

He was making 1.6 at Clemson so have to assume it's on the order of 2M


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Aggravated Sox Fan Bob wrote:
SHARK wrote:
What the hell did you expect? I know it's only 2 games, but new head coach Oliver Purnell's got quite a rebuilding project on his hands at DePaul! This rebuilding project is going to take a lot of time! Anyone who thinks DePaul's doing squat this season is kidding themselves! You know it, I know it, Coach Purnell knows it, ZZ & LoHo know it!


But does the crazed menopausal Athletic Director know it?
SHE IS AN ABSOLUTE IDIOT......
They are a disgrace to the Big East.....

Aggravated, DePaul has NO BUSINESS IN THE BIG EAST!!! Very little is expected from Oliver Purnell's Blue Demons this season and are picked last again this season in that rugged league! I don't know what the hell people are expecting from this team! To a certain extent, I feel sorry for LoHo, ZZ and even Stephen Howard having to call that garbage on 670 The SCORE!


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 Post subject: Re: DePaul Basketball
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The reason DePaul stays in the Big East is simple - Money. With revenue sharing in place, DePaul rakes in some 2M a year from the Big East which is probably close to 15% of their total revenues for the athletic department. (Recent figures are their revenues are on the 15M a year)


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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
The reason DePaul stays in the Big East is simple - Money. With revenue sharing in place, DePaul rakes in some 2M a year from the Big East which is probably close to 15% of their total revenues for the athletic department. (Recent figures are their revenues are on the 15M a year)

Money does talk, Hawkeye, that's for sure...The fact of the matter is the men's basketball team still sucks and will still suck for quite sometime, regardless if DePaul is still in the Big East or shifts to another more suitable conference such as the Horizon League where I think they are better suited to compete than facing the Syracuses, Villanovas, Connecticuts & Marquettes of the world and getting their clocks cleaned night in, night out.


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 Post subject: Re: DePaul Basketball
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The reason DePaul stays in the Big East is simple - Money. With revenue sharing in place, DePaul rakes in some 2M a year from the Big East which is probably close to 15% of their total revenues for the athletic department. (Recent figures are their revenues are on the 15M a year)

Money does talk, Hawkeye, that's for sure...The fact of the matter is the men's basketball team still sucks and will still suck for quite sometime, regardless if DePaul is still in the Big East or shifts to another more suitable conference such as the Horizon League where I think they are better suited to compete than facing the Syracuses, Villanovas, Connecticuts & Marquettes of the world and getting their clocks cleaned night in, night out.

Moving to a better aligned regional conference would reduce expenses (read: travel costs). But it would also reduce revenues since you get 10K for a weekend DePaul/Louisville game, but what would a weekend DePaul/Richmond-St.Bonaventure (A10) or DePaul/Wright State (Horizion) bring in? 5K?


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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
The reason DePaul stays in the Big East is simple - Money. With revenue sharing in place, DePaul rakes in some 2M a year from the Big East which is probably close to 15% of their total revenues for the athletic department. (Recent figures are their revenues are on the 15M a year)

Where is that 15M figure from? I'm curious to see where they could possibly be getting that much money, if basketball only earns 15% and they don't have a football team. Donations from boosters? I'd think everything else would be pretty low-revenue.

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 Post subject: Re: DePaul Basketball
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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
The reason DePaul stays in the Big East is simple - Money. With revenue sharing in place, DePaul rakes in some 2M a year from the Big East which is probably close to 15% of their total revenues for the athletic department. (Recent figures are their revenues are on the 15M a year)

Money does talk, Hawkeye, that's for sure...The fact of the matter is the men's basketball team still sucks and will still suck for quite sometime, regardless if DePaul is still in the Big East or shifts to another more suitable conference such as the Horizon League where I think they are better suited to compete than facing the Syracuses, Villanovas, Connecticuts & Marquettes of the world and getting their clocks cleaned night in, night out.

Moving to a better aligned regional conference would reduce expenses (read: travel costs). But it would also reduce revenues since you get 10K for a weekend DePaul/Louisville game, but what would a weekend DePaul/Richmond-St.Bonaventure (A10) or DePaul/Wright State (Horizion) bring in? 5K?

It would also reduce television revenues to somewhere between $0 or "whatever the hell we have to pay WCIU to show our games."

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 Post subject: Re: DePaul Basketball
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By the way, good luck finding a DePaul game on TV. Once upon a time, the Blue Demons were on WGN Radio 720 and on WGN Television everywhere. These days, unless you have WMEU 48, the Weigel-owned station known as MeTOO, ThisTV, which is a collaboration between Weigel & the famous MGM lion, or the ESPN Full Court package, DePaul games on TV are very, very rare.


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 Post subject: Re: DePaul Basketball
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The reason DePaul stays in the Big East is simple - Money. With revenue sharing in place, DePaul rakes in some 2M a year from the Big East which is probably close to 15% of their total revenues for the athletic department. (Recent figures are their revenues are on the 15M a year)

Where is that 15M figure from? I'm curious to see where they could possibly be getting that much money, if basketball only earns 15% and they don't have a football team. Donations from boosters? I'd think everything else would be pretty low-revenue.

This is a dated article but it summarizes the smaller Big East schools athletic budgets

http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2009/ ... ss-report/


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 Post subject: Re: DePaul Basketball
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This is from an additional source for the Dept of Education: formatting sucks. http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstDetails ... 343020504d

Total Expenses by Team
Varsity Teams Men's Teams Women's Teams Total
Basketball $6,528,661 $2,201,626 $8,730,287
Total Expenses of all Sports, Except Football and Basketball, Combined $1,947,870 $3,567,090 $5,514,960
Total Expenses Men's and Women's Teams $8,476,531 $5,768,716 $14,245,247
Not Allocated by Gender/Sport $6,699,757
Grand Total Expenses $20,945,004
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Total Revenues by Team
Varsity Teams Men's Teams Women's Teams Total
Basketball $6,528,661 $2,201,626 $8,730,287
Total Revenues of all Sports, Except Football and Basketball, Combined $1,947,870 $3,567,090 $5,514,960
Total Revenues Men's and Women's Teams $8,476,531 $5,768,716 $14,245,247
Not Allocated by Gender/Sport $6,699,757
Grand Total for all Teams (includes by team and not allocated by gender/sport)


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 Post subject: Re: DePaul Basketball
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By the way, good luck finding a DePaul game on TV. Once upon a time, the Blue Demons were on WGN Radio 720 and on WGN Television everywhere. These days, unless you have WMEU 48, the Weigel-owned station known as MeTOO, ThisTV, which is a collaboration between Weigel & the famous MGM lion, or the ESPN Full Court package, DePaul games on TV are very, very rare.



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This is from an additional source for the Dept of Education: formatting sucks. http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstDetails ... 343020504d

Total Expenses by Team
Varsity Teams Men's Teams Women's Teams Total
Basketball $6,528,661 $2,201,626 $8,730,287
Total Expenses of all Sports, Except Football and Basketball, Combined $1,947,870 $3,567,090 $5,514,960
Total Expenses Men's and Women's Teams $8,476,531 $5,768,716 $14,245,247
Not Allocated by Gender/Sport $6,699,757
Grand Total Expenses $20,945,004
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Total Revenues by Team
Varsity Teams Men's Teams Women's Teams Total
Basketball $6,528,661 $2,201,626 $8,730,287
Total Revenues of all Sports, Except Football and Basketball, Combined $1,947,870 $3,567,090 $5,514,960
Total Revenues Men's and Women's Teams $8,476,531 $5,768,716 $14,245,247
Not Allocated by Gender/Sport $6,699,757
Grand Total for all Teams (includes by team and not allocated by gender/sport)

Interesting stuff. Those numbers still seem high, but they are what they are.

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I would agree that the overall figures seem high. It's probably the best that can be reported since they are not a public institution.


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Down 26 with two minutes left at Indiana State.

Though they did just beat NIU. So they have that going for them. Which is nice.

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Down 26 with two minutes left at Indiana State.

Though they did just beat NIU. So they have that going for them. Which is nice.

:lol:

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RPI really is not a useful tool for ranking teams. That being said...

UIC - 243
Chicago State - 252
NIU 282
WIU - 311
DePaul - 319

:lol: :lol:

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In fairness to DePaul, though, two of their wins have come against teams in that group.

KenPom has DePaul as underdogs in every Big East game.

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RPI really is not a useful tool for ranking teams. That being said...

UIC - 243
Chicago State - 252
NIU 282
WIU - 311
DePaul - 319

:lol: :lol:


Well to be fair Western is a basketball powerhouse

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Irish Boy wrote:
RPI really is not a useful tool for ranking teams. That being said...

UIC - 243
Chicago State - 252
NIU 282
WIU - 311
DePaul - 319

:lol: :lol:

Thanks for being kind and not including Loyola in that list, as they have fallen back and joined the rest of the bad Illinois basketball ranks this week...

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Down 26 with two minutes left at Indiana State.

Though they did just beat NIU. So they have that going for them. Which is nice.


Indiana State still has a basketball team?

Yeah, Indiana State still has a basketball team, but Larry Bird's nowhere to be found on that team anymore.


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