How many teams besides IL get in despite not having 6 wins versus D1 teams?

There are countless examples of MAC teams getting shafted in the past (NIU 2003), Temple is not the first and they won't be the last. There were five teams with 8+ wins. When the conference only has three tie-ins you knew there was a good chance someone was staying home.

It will continue to happen since the Big 12 conference successfully petitioned this past offseason that 6-6 teams can be chosen over teams with winning records as an at-large. The change didn't actually help any of the 6-6 BCS schools this season but it will in the future.

There are countless examples of MAC teams getting shafted in the past (NIU 2003), Temple is not the first and they won't be the last. There were five teams with 8+ wins. When the conference only has three tie-ins you knew there was a good chance someone was staying home..

Isn't the job of any bowl to sell tickets and bring in TV revenue? Granted Temple brought some 15-20K to the Eagle Bank Bowl, as a whole they got 23K butts in the seats since no one local to DC really cared about a Temple/UCLA matchup while a game of 7-5 schools, UConn and South Carolina brought in 46K for a randon bowl that no one will remember. Before you say I am hating on the Huskies or the like, the GMAC bowl last year only had 35K for CMU vs Troy (who is basically local to there). Big schools put butts in the seats which makes the bowls much happier than taking a smaller school with a limited fan base.

Boo hoo for Temple, but if the bowl system felt the MAC was a better conference, there would be more than 3 guaranteed bids for it.

This is the problem. I could care less if Temple got an invite, but it shouldn't be about "what the bowl 'system' feels".

However, Temple did beat Uconn this year - they got a BCS bowl invite. That would be huge in the eyes of the committee if this were a selection process similar to the basketball tourney. Just sayin....

The BCS and the bowl system is all about money. Boo hoo for Temple, but if the bowl system felt the MAC was a better conference, there would be more than 3 guaranteed bids for it. Even Conference USA has 5 bids and I can't even think of teams from there.

I have no problem with the 5th best team in one of the worst conferences in the country not going to a bowl.

If it was basketball, which is the gold standard of the "We need a tournament!" argument they wouldn't have gotten in either the NCAA or NIT.

CUSA only has five bowls due to their geography location, not due to their success (or lack thereof). Most of the bowls are down south where their teams are located.

CUSA only has five bowls due to their geography location, not due to their success (or lack thereof).

Conference USA is better than the MAC. They deserve more bids.

The 5th best team in the Big Ten didn't make the NCAA tourney last year. I suspect neither spanky nor NIU Husky were complaining about that.

So who is a part of this "Big Ten Posse"?

Ah, good to see the Big Ten posse out and about and feeling frisky today.

Try reading this thread again, Spanky ain't complaining. But good thought none the less.