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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:49 am 
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Apparently, Notre Dame has a seat on the NCAA playoff board. Should an independent school with a subpar football team be given this right?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:53 pm 
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Hasn't that always been the case? In all discussions about playoffs, they brought all the Conference Commissioners and a rep from ND. I got no problem with it. If you don't understand why ND is important to college football, then I'm not sure you understand college football.


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They deserve it, but they also seem to be losing special treatment status with every new system.

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My_name_1s_MUD wrote:
If you don't understand why ND is important to college football, then I'm not sure you understand college football.


The team has not come close to winning anything since the mid 90s. I do understand the history, but Penn State also had a lot of history until recently.

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They are winning the television revenue game. That's all that matters.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:30 pm 
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I'm still rooting for Bryan Kelly to get fired.

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They are winning the television revenue game. That's all that matters.
They actually make less money from television than every Big Ten and SEC team, and if it hasn't happened already the Pac 12 will pass them too.

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Wow, did not know that..good to hear, I am no fan of of ND..if that is true ..then why not join a conference for football?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:38 pm 
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Given B&B's distaste for all things Penn State, how would you rank the camera kid dying in the scissors lift vs. the Penn State fiasco?

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Wow, did not know that..good to hear, I am no fan of of ND..if that is true ..then why not join a conference for football?
They know what would happen to them. Remember, Penn State was a powerhouse before they joined the Big Ten. Now, even before the sanctions, they probably were the 5th best program in the conference.

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Maybe someone can answer this for me, but I'm under the impression that the only sport at ND not in a conference is football.

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I Believe that.. ND is weak and would be a middle of the pack team in the big ten and bottom of the pack in the SEC..I just don't like seeing the Irish play in bcs bowls only to get waxed every year.

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My_name_1s_MUD wrote:
If you don't understand why ND is important to college football, then I'm not sure you understand college football.

ND has sucked for a while now and I think college football has done just fine for itself in that time.

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I can't remember the last time they were a a legit championship contender..probably under Holtz.

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I can't remember the last time they were a a legit championship contender..probably under Holtz.

I'd say 1993.

David Gordon was my hero for a day.

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That had that year under Charlie Weis when they almost beat USC. Probably not a title, but a good season nonetheless.

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if by sub-par you mean 1993 and previous, I'll agree...

if by sub-par you mean losing record...that hasn't happened since 2007.

2002 they had a great shot if it wasn't for the "Bush Push"

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They couldn't even win the MAC Championship.

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