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Author:  RFDC [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:57 pm ]
Post subject:  NCAA Record 138 points in a Game

:shock:

Quote:
Jack Taylor of Division III school Grinnell College (Iowa) scored 138 points against Faith Baptist College (Iowa) as he set the new all-time NCAA record for points scored in a game.

In case it wasn't clear, Grinnell College won, 179-104. Taylor finished the game 52-of-108 from the field, 27-of-71 from the three-point line and added seven free throws. All of this came in just a mere 35 minutes.

The 5'10 sophomore guard wasn't all perfect, though, as he did have six turnovers.


http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb ... ing-record

Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NCAA Record 138 points in a Game

How do you possibly take over 3 shots per minute?

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:02 am ]
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This is two fucking days in a row, RFDC that you posted the same fucking thing as me at the same time.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NCAA Record 138 points in a Game

Amazing. Even more awesome because I don't believe Wilt really scored 100. I believe that's a myth (not joking).

Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:04 am ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Amazing. Even more awesome because I don't believe Wilt really scored 100. I believe that's a myth (not joking).


Huh?

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:04 am ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Amazing. Even more awesome because I don't believe Wilt really scored 100. I believe that's a myth (not joking).


Wilt really bagged 100 women in one night. People always think he "scored" 100 points.

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:06 am ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Amazing. Even more awesome because I don't believe Wilt really scored 100. I believe that's a myth (not joking).


Wilt really bagged 100 women in one night. People always think he "scored" 100 points.

:lol:

Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:07 am ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Amazing. Even more awesome because I don't believe Wilt really scored 100. I believe that's a myth (not joking).


Huh?

It's kinda like how some people don't really believe humans ever walked on the moon. I don't think Wilt's 100 point performance is real. Irrational? Yes.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:09 am ]
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Anyone ever play "century club" in college? That shit fucks you up.

Author:  donspiracy [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:20 am ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Anyone ever play "century club" in college? That shit fucks you up.

Yes. I smoked 100 marijuanas in a week. It was awful.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NCAA Record 138 points in a Game

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
How do you possibly take over 3 shots per minute?


The other team also scored over 100 points, so each team was chucking up about 3 shots per minute. Must have been wild to watch teams chucking the ball up there at such a pace.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NCAA Record 138 points in a Game

http://youtu.be/FuheCq4gn6A

They were actually guarding him. He's got a very good looking shot.

Author:  Hawkeye Vince [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NCAA Record 138 points in a Game

Grinnell has been known for years to abandon defense in favor of shooting quick and scoring as much as they can. For instance this year they have scored 130, 111 and 179 in the first three games yet given up 101, 100 and 104.

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:33 pm ]
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That #32 should not sleep for a week, with all those jumpers rainin over him.

Author:  conns7901 [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:58 am ]
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Deadspin feels this should be douchebag of the week material. I kinda agree

i]D-III Player’s 138 Point-Game Is A Sham Record And Shouldn’t Be Celebrated By Anyone
Barry Petchesky

Jack Taylor, of the Grinnell College Pioneers, scored 138 points in a game last night, against Faith Baptist Bible College. It's a mindblowing number, shattering the old NCAA mark of 113, and it's being trumpeted as one of sports' all-time individual achievements. It is not. It is bullshit. It is just the latest incarnation of Grinnell's decades-old strategy of seeking media attention for records achieved through a complete bastardization of basketball.

David Arseneault is the man behind the plan. Since becoming Grinnell coach in 1989, Arseneault has focused less on putting together a successful team and more on getting his players' names in the record books. And, not incidentally, selling books and videos touting his innovative "system." At least three separate times a Grinnell player has set the D-III single-game scoring record, and each one has gotten national attention. In 1998, Jeff Clement went for 77 points, and received a story in Sports Illustrated. Last season Griffin Lentsch scored 89 points, and got a feature on ESPN.com. Today, Taylor's 138-point game is everywhere.

Arseneault describes his system:

94S + 47 3's + 33%OR + 25SD + 32 TO's = W
The ‘Formula for Success' has withstood the test of time. Since 1996, whenever the Pioneers have attempted 94 shots, with half of those shots from behind the arc, offensive rebounded 33% of their missed shot attempts, taken 25 more shots than their opponent and forced the opposition into committing 32 turnovers, they have won at nearly a 95% clip.

But it's much more than just taking a lot of threes, or winning the turnover battle. According to a former Grinnell player who took part in one of those record-setting games, the gameplan is designed from the outset to get a specific player the scoring mark, even at the expense of making a mockery of the game. The player told Deadspin:

"The strategy was to use a full court press after a made basket, with the caveat that [the player seeking the record] would not cross into the defensive side of the court. So, after our opponents broke our press, we were essentially playing four-on-five, which enabled the other team to take quicker shots and fall into our game plan.

"The rationale is to essentially trade off a quick two or more attempts at lower probability 3-point shots. Given the high pace required for the system, Grinnell shifts in five players every 30 to 45 seconds. Within each shift there is a primary shooter who will take the bulk of threes (or shots) during the shift."

This worked to perfection last night, and you can see it in the play-by-play. Grinnell would regularly sub out four players at a time, keeping Taylor on the court to continue chucking up threes—71 attempts from beyond the arc, to be specific. He also rarely bothered getting back on defense, with Grinnell content to let Faith Baptist score a quick two, if they didn't turn the ball over immediately. Taylor finished with just three rebounds, all off his own misses.

This, then, is how you score 138 points—a defense designed to get the ball back as fast as possible, even if it means letting the other team score. And the entire offense being funneled through one player, at the expense of turning down open shots. Tyler Burns rewatched the entire game, and had a few observations:

There were a LOT of possessions where Taylor would chuck up a shot, miss, and his teammate would get the rebound wide open under the basket. Instead of putting it back up, he would look for Taylor again and pass it out so he could chuck another three. There were many possessions where this happened three times each. Six three-point attempts in two trips down the court.

Literally 75% of [Faith Baptist's] points were full court heaves to get it over Grinnell's press, then a wide open layup on the other end. Oh, and David Larsen's "impressive" 70-point effort? Hardly. They were 90% wide open layups. He maybe took a handful of jump shots.

Wilt Chamberlain's 100 points were also achieved through a concerted effort to get him the ball, but at least it came against NBA competition. Grinnell may as well have been playing against five random guys thrown together at the Y. Faith Baptist Bible College is a school of 330 students, and isn't even in the NCAA. They're not even NAIA. They play in the National Christian College Athletic Association, and Division II of the NCCAA at that.

Last night's game counted as an exhibition for Faith Baptist, but was somehow a regular season game for Grinnell.

Why does the level of the opposition matter? Because Arseneault and Grinnell specifically plan their record-breaking games against inferior opponents. Tyler Burns again:

The announcer actually said that Grinnell will look on their schedule for their weaker opponents and do everything they can to run up the score and break records. This is all within the game plan. One tactic the announcer mentioned was called "The Bomb Squad". If Grinnell's opponent gets into the double bonus, Grinnell will sub in five freshmen players, foul their opponent immediately once the ball is in play, send them to the line, then sub the freshmen players out to put their scorers back in on offense. This takes almost no time off the clock, giving their starters as many offensive possessions as possible.

Jack Taylor set a record, but it's an empty one. Important records come naturally in the flow of competition, not as some freakshow designed to make SportsCenter. Taylor took 108 shots by himself, the same number as Indiana and Georgetown took last night combined. (They scored 154 points between them.) Taylor shot 49 percent from the field, 38 percent from three. These are the only figures that ought to matter when judging his evening, yet no one will remember anything but his 138 points. Because it's much easier to tout an inflated scoring figure than to actually watch the game, and realize just how empty and artificial the achievement is.[/i]

Author:  Curious Hair [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NCAA Record 138 points in a Game

Image

Author:  RFDC [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NCAA Record 138 points in a Game

Prior to Jack Taylor scoring 138 pts for Grinnell, the previous record for GC was 89 pts in game scored by Griffin Lentsch. The same Griffin Lentsch who came off the bench for Grinnell in the 138 pt game and scored only 14 pts.

Author:  casual fan [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NCAA Record 138 points in a Game

Teams can play whatever "system" they want. Defense may be optional, but in the end, they won the game. Give the kid credit for the record.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NCAA Record 138 points in a Game

Mark Giangreco and David Kaplan think it shouldn't be counted as a record.

That's why it should be celebrated every year from this day forward.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: NCAA Record 138 points in a Game

Well, if this team doesn't play in the NCAA, then I guess it's not an NCAA record, now is it? Still, you can't say it didn't happen just because you think it sullied the precious sanctity of college basketball.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:18 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Well, if this team doesn't play in the NCAA, then I guess it's not an NCAA record, now is it? Still, you can't say it didn't happen just because you think it sullied the precious sanctity of college basketball.


It was in the NCAA, just division III.

Author:  conns7901 [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:38 pm ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Well, if this team doesn't play in the NCAA, then I guess it's not an NCAA record, now is it? Still, you can't say it didn't happen just because you think it sullied the precious sanctity of college basketball.


It was in the NCAA, just division III.


The team the played was not an NCAA or even an NAIA team though and has the game listed as an exhibition on their schedule. They play in a bad National Christian Athletics association.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:55 pm ]
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conns7901 wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Well, if this team doesn't play in the NCAA, then I guess it's not an NCAA record, now is it? Still, you can't say it didn't happen just because you think it sullied the precious sanctity of college basketball.


It was in the NCAA, just division III.


The team the played was not an NCAA or even an NAIA team though and has the game listed as an exhibition on their schedule. They play in a bad National Christian Athletics association.


National
Christian
Athletics
Association

:D

Author:  conns7901 [ Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:31 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Well, if this team doesn't play in the NCAA, then I guess it's not an NCAA record, now is it? Still, you can't say it didn't happen just because you think it sullied the precious sanctity of college basketball.


It was in the NCAA, just division III.


The team the played was not an NCAA or even an NAIA team though and has the game listed as an exhibition on their schedule. They play in a bad National Christian Athletics association.


National
Christian
Athletics
Association

:D


My bad. National Christian Colleges Athletics Association

NCCAA

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