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I have still never seen him play a game. I watched a lot of college football last year but never A&M.

May not ever get to see him play a college game now. There are reports that he is under investigation by the NCAA for signing memorabilia for a 5 figure payout last January. His parents are filthy rich. I can't believe he would actually do this.

Happy Birthday, Dallas Green!

Seeing he did sign a bunch of stuff before for no money, he seems to be very aware of the rule.

Kind of get that feeling he just wants to go pro today and doesnt even want to play college this year. Figures, even if he sits out a year, someone takes him in the first round and he cashes a 10$ M signing bonus. Then he can be a pro dick.

bigfan wrote:

No one is taking a 6' (and that is using Bernstien's tape measure) 200 pound QB in the first round.

pittmike wrote:

How big is Brees?

Listed at 6 but he is not.

good dolphin wrote:

bigfan wrote:

No one is taking a 6' (and that is using Bernstien's tape measure) 200 pound QB in the first round.

If he plays this year and repeats his previous year, you bet they would take him. The game has changed and there are enough shorter qb's out there that have proven that theory wrong.

Suspended for the first half of the Rice game.

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Suspended for the first half of the Rice game.

I agree with the guys, why the half of the game? Either guilty or not.

What do we think of this kid still?

reents wrote:

What do we think of this kid still?

An American hero.

Does any of this really matter? They could start the 8th string quarterback and still win this game.

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Suspended for the first half of the Rice game.

I agree with the guys, why the half of the game? Either guilty or not.

Author:	reents [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Johny Manziel
What do we think of this kid still, his parents are worried about him, here is a link to the article about him. http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/ ... n-magazine I think the Manning camp was not the best thing to happen, it seems like every week he gets into trouble and once the season comes along, should be better. I will add I did like the how Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith this morning made it sound like he listens to them on First Take this morning.

Author:	conns7901 [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
Fuck him.

Author:	Urlacher's missing neck [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
I have still never seen him play a game. I watched a lot of college football last year but never A&M.

Author:	reents [ Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:57 pm ]
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Urlacher's missing neck wrote: I have still never seen him play a game. I watched a lot of college football last year but never A&M. I didn't see much of him until the Cotton Bowl against Oklahoma, what I remember, just seemed to run past them. Did win at Bama, but lost to Florida and LSU both at home.

Author:	Urlacher's missing neck [ Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:16 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
May not ever get to see him play a college game now. There are reports that he is under investigation by the NCAA for signing memorabilia for a 5 figure payout last January. His parents are filthy rich. I can't believe he would actually do this.

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Author:	Hawg Ass [ Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:57 pm ]
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Urlacher's missing neck wrote: May not ever get to see him play a college game now. There are reports that he is under investigation by the NCAA for signing memorabilia for a 5 figure payout last January. His parents are filthy rich. I can't believe he would actually do this. I am truly starting to believe that the whole family is a bunch of fucking idiots.

Author:	Darkside [ Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:58 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
Happy Birthday, Dallas Green!

Author:	beni hanna [ Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
Manziel Reality Show coming to FX next spring.

Author:	bigfan [ Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
Seeing he did sign a bunch of stuff before for no money, he seems to be very aware of the rule. Kind of get that feeling he just wants to go pro today and doesnt even want to play college this year. Figures, even if he sits out a year, someone takes him in the first round and he cashes a 10$ M signing bonus. Then he can be a pro dick.

Author:	Colonel Angus [ Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
Darkside wrote: Happy Birthday, Dallas Green!

Author:	good dolphin [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
bigfan wrote: Seeing he did sign a bunch of stuff before for no money, he seems to be very aware of the rule. Kind of get that feeling he just wants to go pro today and doesnt even want to play college this year. Figures, even if he sits out a year, someone takes him in the first round and he cashes a 10$ M signing bonus. Then he can be a pro dick. No one is taking a 6' (and that is using Bernstien's tape measure) 200 pound QB in the first round.

Author:	Hawg Ass [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:43 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
good dolphin wrote: bigfan wrote: Seeing he did sign a bunch of stuff before for no money, he seems to be very aware of the rule. Kind of get that feeling he just wants to go pro today and doesnt even want to play college this year. Figures, even if he sits out a year, someone takes him in the first round and he cashes a 10$ M signing bonus. Then he can be a pro dick. No one is taking a 6' (and that is using Bernstien's tape measure) 200 pound QB in the first round. If he plays this year and repeats his previous year, you bet they would take him. The game has changed and there are enough shorter qb's out there that have proven that theory wrong.

Author:	pittmike [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:27 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
How big is Brees?

Author:	Hawg Ass [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
pittmike wrote: How big is Brees? Listed at 6 but he is not.

Author:	conns7901 [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
Maybe I am wrong, but I thought the general consensus was fuck this douchebag, not lets change the rules cause the white guy got caught? By Jason Whitlock Ralph Nas — my friend, mentor and hero — wrote a book years ago that, through a collection of essays, attempted to explain Why Black People Tend to Shout. The explanation is rather simple: It’s been difficult for America to hear us unless we’re loud, obnoxious and rebellious. Reasonable claims of injustice and unfairness are dismissed as excuse-making by people who allegedly don’t have the necessary integrity and resolve to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Our shouts are heard, but they often go unaddressed until similar injustices impact the majority community. Johnny Manziel is the latest example of this phenomenon. The Heisman Trophy winner is a rule bender like Cam Newton, a rock-star partier like JaMarcus Russell and an improvisational playmaker like Michael Vick. Somehow, America loves Johnny Football. We love him so much that we’re now ready to overthrow the NCAA and the stupid rule book that might deny us the privilege of watching Manziel attempt to duplicate his improbable freshman season. We love this rich, pampered, Justin Bieber-wannabe so much that we’re now apparently ready to deal with the fraudulence of amateurism. If you have a question or comment for Jason, submit it below and he may just respond. Subject: Comment/Question: Name: Email Address: Hometown: Yep. This is why black people tend to shout. Reggie Bush was an immoral, greedy punk who deserved to have his Heisman Trophy stripped from him because a potential agent rented his parents a new house. Cam Newton got called everything but a child of God because his father allegedly asked for extra money in his collection plate. Few outside of the Buckeye state cried when Terrelle Pryor got run out of college football because of free tattoos. But Johnny Football and his autographs are game-changers when it comes to public perception of NCAA rules. Why? For the same reason the Hippie Movement of the 1960s changed America’s perception of marijuana laws. White kids were suddenly impacted by our country’s draconian, mandatory-sentencing laws regarding marijuana. The Boggs Act of 1952 and the Narcotics Control Act of 1956 stipulated that first offenders receive two-to-10 years for marijuana possession. A decade of white Hippie weed smoke caused Congress to repeal the mandatory sentencing in 1970. It took The Grateful Dead and kids like Bill Walton to awaken America to the stupidity of throwing a young person’s life away over grass. Maybe Johnny Football can teach us to quit throwing athletic careers away over shamateurism. Fairness, to me, would not be Manziel being treated the way the NCAA and its media collaborators have treated poor, rule-bending black athletes for years. The NCAA and its volunteer media police force have used black athletes for financial gain and career advancement for too long. I stand in defense of Manziel with the same conviction I stood in defense of Reggie Bush. In this era of TV-money-saturated college football and basketball, the NCAA rule book is outdated, immoral and ripe for abolishment. Once again, let me remind you of the words written by the white, conservative architect of the modern NCAA, the organization’s former, longtime president, Walter Byers: “Today the NCAA Presidents Commission is preoccupied with tightening a few loose bolts in a worn machine, firmly committed to the neo-plantation belief that the enormous proceeds from college games belong to the overseers (administrators) and supervisors (coaches). The plantation workers performing in the arena may only receive those benefits authorized by the overseers.” Maybe Johnny Football will help America deal with the reality Byers spelled out in stark terms in 1997. I’m not going to demonize Manziel. Yes, he’s spoiled and out of control. But he’s a product of a sports culture we have allowed to rot by not dealing with the complications brought on by television, fame and money. Kids don’t remotely respect NCAA rules because the rules are not remotely rooted in fairness. It’s our fault. We, the media, fought harder for the expansion of the college football season and a playoff format than we did to end the sham of amateurism. We fought for our own pleasure rather than what’s right for the kids who sacrifice their bodies. Many greedy and cowardly millionaire coaches have been reluctant to speak a truth they know firsthand out of fear they might have to share their wealth. Maybe that will change now that a good-looking white kid is in the crosshairs. Unfortunately, it takes a victim who looks like Manziel for the masses to fully grasp unfairness. It took Manziel’s autographs for the masses to understand a point Jay Bilas has been making relentlessly on Twitter for at least the last two years. The NCAA can profit off Manziel’s name and fame, but Manziel can’t? Really? It’s way past time for a new NCAA rule book and policies that make football and basketball players feel less financially exploited. Most people — regardless of color, family background or economic status — respect rules based in fairness. Manziel is no different from Newton or Bush. The only difference is America’s largely sympathetic reaction to Manziel’s NCAA problems. If you read my column regularly, you know I don’t condone all of the shouting we do. But I know why black people tend to shout. Sometimes it feels like America has one ear and two mouths when we’re talking politely.

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Author:	pittmike [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:36 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
If because of all this stuff he falls to a 2-3 rounder I would grab him up. Let him sit while you franchise Cutler a year or two.

Author:	good dolphin [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:22 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
Hawg Ass wrote: pittmike wrote: How big is Brees? Listed at 6 but he is not. and he was not taken in the first round, but Brees is not a very good comparison

Author:	good dolphin [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:24 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
Hawg Ass wrote: good dolphin wrote: bigfan wrote: Seeing he did sign a bunch of stuff before for no money, he seems to be very aware of the rule. Kind of get that feeling he just wants to go pro today and doesnt even want to play college this year. Figures, even if he sits out a year, someone takes him in the first round and he cashes a 10$ M signing bonus. Then he can be a pro dick. No one is taking a 6' (and that is using Bernstien's tape measure) 200 pound QB in the first round. If he plays this year and repeats his previous year, you bet they would take him. The game has changed and there are enough shorter qb's out there that have proven that theory wrong. I most certainly would bet. Through all these changes, what size are the QBs taken in the first round over the past three years 2013 Manuel 6'5" 237 2012 Luck 6'4" 234 Griffen 6'3"231 Tannehill 6'4" 221 Weeden 6'3" 221 2011 Locker 6'2" 231 Gabbert 6'4" 234 Ponder 6'2" 229 Now, the trend is that these guys are much more mobile, but I think you would be hard pressed to find a GM with the balls to base his career on a guy sub 6', which Johnny Football will undoubtedly be once he is measured by an unbiased source.

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:29 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
You're correct conns. Whitlock sucks. Dolt.

Author:	Terry's Peeps [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
Suspended for the first half of the Rice game.

Author:	Douchebag [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
Terry's Peeps wrote: Suspended for the first half of the Rice game. pwned....

Author:	Hawg Ass [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
Terry's Peeps wrote: Suspended for the first half of the Rice game. I agree with the guys, why the half of the game? Either guilty or not.

Author:	KDdidit [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
They'll say he was guilty of something else, hence the 1/2 game.

Author:	JORR [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
reents wrote: What do we think of this kid still? An American hero.

Author:	redskingreg [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:55 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: reents wrote: What do we think of this kid still? An American hero. He got exactly what he did and did not deserve.

Author:	KDdidit [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:04 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
I hope for the whole first half Miley's on the sidelines twerking with him.

Author:	Douchebag [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:06 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
Does any of this really matter? They could start the 8th string quarterback and still win this game.

Author:	Hawg Ass [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
Douchebag wrote: Does any of this really matter? They could start the 8th string quarterback and still win this game. Eggs-actly

Author:	good dolphin [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:07 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Johny Manziel
Hawg Ass wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: Suspended for the first half of the Rice game. I agree with the guys, why the half of the game? Either guilty or not. They should have suspended him for the second half of the game and run up the score in the first half.