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If you clicked this thread, your team likely sucks too
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| Author: | Brick [ Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
Given that Mud is the only person on this board with a team with a pulse it's not a shock that this thread doesn't exist but here goes. My team sucks. If you clicked this thread, your team likely sucks too unless you are Mud and then your team is great for the bar they set for themselves. At least Ohio State and Michigan are back to dominating the conference. It felt strange having other teams matter. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: If you clicked this thread, your team likely sucks too
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
This may be the worst Purdue team I've ever seen. The only hint of optimism is that we have a new coach and a new system so maybe it will improve as the season goes on. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
The dude at ESPN is now predicting Illinois will play Florida in the Gator Bowl. I'm serious. http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls/projections |
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| Author: | reents [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
If that Texas bowl came about between Indiana and Texas Tech, what would the over be 125 |
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| Author: | My_name_1s_MUD [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
Being moderately decent is still an uncomfortable position for any Cat fan (all 3 of us). But don't be fooled, the hype is bigger than the reality. Cal struggled against Portland State University... and Syracuse was a little bit of a joke. We have a ridiculously tough schedule come conference play (OSU, Michigan, @Wisconsin, @Iowa, @Michigan State and @Nebraska). I'd say we'd hang with most of the middle tier B1G teams. The OSU game could prove me wrong. |
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| Author: | GOIrishND [ Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
Big game this weekend: Wisconsin at Arizona State. I'll go ahead with my prediction: Wisky 31, ASU 17 |
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| Author: | reents [ Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
Ill put this here, I didn't stay up for the game, but why did Wisconsin just not kick the field goal, with no timeouts even if the play worked and may have, still taking a chance there. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: The dude at ESPN is now predicting Illinois will play Florida in the Gator Bowl. A better prediction is that they don't win another game. |
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| Author: | GOIrishND [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
reents wrote: Ill put this here, I didn't stay up for the game, but why did Wisconsin just not kick the field goal, with no timeouts even if the play worked and may have, still taking a chance there. It was a matter of setting up for the FGA in what seemed to be standard procedure, but yeah -- with very little time left on the game clock, it turned into a nightmare finish. Here's a rundown from espn.go.com: With the ball on the right hash mark, Stave took a snap and ran left toward the center of the field to set up the potential game-winning field goal. Stave started to kneel, but ran into one of his offensive linemen and awkwardly placed the ball on the ground before quickly bouncing back up. Players from both teams stood around for a few seconds in confusion and Arizona State's players tried to dive on the ball, but the officials pointed to the ground, appearing to say it was a dead ball. Realizing the clock was still running, Wisconsin's players scrambled back to the line of scrimmage with about 2 seconds left. They weren't able to get a last snap off before the clock went off, sending Arizona State's players streaming off the field in joy. Stave and the rest of Wisconsin's players and coaches tried to argue the call, but the officials trotted off the field, leaving the Badgers stunned. |
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| Author: | My_name_1s_MUD [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
Bizarre... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQmNYPOgx40 Watching it full speed, I can understand exactly what happened. Stave should have been more deliberate. Wisconsin shouldn't have gotten cute and simply spiked the ball. While refs are certainly a little culpable by not spotting it quicker, I think the preponderance of the fault is on the Badgers here. |
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| Author: | Bucky Chris [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
My_name_1s_MUD wrote: Bizarre... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQmNYPOgx40 Watching it full speed, I can understand exactly what happened. Stave should have been more deliberate. Wisconsin shouldn't have gotten cute and simply spiked the ball. While refs are certainly a little culpable by not spotting it quicker, I think the preponderance of the fault is on the Badgers here. Wowerz, no, you're wrong. The kicker is bad. It was worth it to try to center the kick for him, so spiking wouldn't have achieved that. There was plenty of time. The ref allowed the defense to literally lay on top of the ball, and then stopped them from snapping the ball before the clock went out. The refs will be reprimanded, they royally screwed up. There have already been several issues with the Pac 12 refs this season. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
My_name_1s_MUD wrote: Bizarre... #karma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQmNYPOgx40 Watching it full speed, I can understand exactly what happened. Stave should have been more deliberate. Wisconsin shouldn't have gotten cute and simply spiked the ball. While refs are certainly a little culpable by not spotting it quicker, I think the preponderance of the fault is on the Badgers here. |
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| Author: | Bucky Chris [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: My_name_1s_MUD wrote: Bizarre... #karmahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQmNYPOgx40 Watching it full speed, I can understand exactly what happened. Stave should have been more deliberate. Wisconsin shouldn't have gotten cute and simply spiked the ball. While refs are certainly a little culpable by not spotting it quicker, I think the preponderance of the fault is on the Badgers here. That tweet made me laugh. If she believes Karma exists, she's in for a world of trouble. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:30 am ] |
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It's just good to know that Wisconsin fans now have the same opinion of Bielema the rest of the Big Ten did. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:56 am ] |
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Bucky Chris wrote: My_name_1s_MUD wrote: Bizarre... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQmNYPOgx40 Watching it full speed, I can understand exactly what happened. Stave should have been more deliberate. Wisconsin shouldn't have gotten cute and simply spiked the ball. While refs are certainly a little culpable by not spotting it quicker, I think the preponderance of the fault is on the Badgers here. Wowerz, no, you're wrong. The kicker is bad. It was worth it to try to center the kick for him, so spiking wouldn't have achieved that. There was plenty of time. The ref allowed the defense to literally lay on top of the ball, and then stopped them from snapping the ball before the clock went out. The refs will be reprimanded, they royally screwed up. There have already been several issues with the Pac 12 refs this season. If their kicker couldn't have made it without them having to center the ball in the middle of the field from 30 yards, you deserve to lose. There is no excuse for a program as big as Wisconsin's to not have a field goal kicker that is better than what they have. They knew it was problem last year and did nothing to address it in the offseason. |
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| Author: | GOIrishND [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
It really makes you wonder, doesn't it? The big universities normally have lots of walk-ons, or potential ones, out of which the coaches can select one with a good leg. Put a notice out to the soccer players, that's gotten results for other NCAA FB programs in the past. Coaches do tend to like doing the hash mark routine, but on a shorter kick, is it really necessary -- especially when the game clock is about spent? |
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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:32 am ] |
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The hash marks are pretty wide in college football. The closer the kick, the sharper the angle to kick. That said, you don't make that play without a timeout left. |
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| Author: | GOIrishND [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:44 am ] |
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Yeah, they've always maintained that wider distance for the hashmarks in the college game. I should've mentioned that it is significantly different than the NFL. |
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| Author: | Bucky Chris [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
Hawg Ass wrote: Bucky Chris wrote: My_name_1s_MUD wrote: Bizarre... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQmNYPOgx40 Watching it full speed, I can understand exactly what happened. Stave should have been more deliberate. Wisconsin shouldn't have gotten cute and simply spiked the ball. While refs are certainly a little culpable by not spotting it quicker, I think the preponderance of the fault is on the Badgers here. Wowerz, no, you're wrong. The kicker is bad. It was worth it to try to center the kick for him, so spiking wouldn't have achieved that. There was plenty of time. The ref allowed the defense to literally lay on top of the ball, and then stopped them from snapping the ball before the clock went out. The refs will be reprimanded, they royally screwed up. There have already been several issues with the Pac 12 refs this season. If their kicker couldn't have made it without them having to center the ball in the middle of the field from 30 yards, you deserve to lose. There is no excuse for a program as big as Wisconsin's to not have a field goal kicker that is better than what they have. They knew it was problem last year and did nothing to address it in the offseason. I'm not interested in debating who deserved to win. The coach made a decision, the correct decision, and the refs screwed up. Whoever deserves what has no bearing on if the refs screwed up or not. |
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| Author: | Bucky Chris [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
Big Chicagoan wrote: The hash marks are pretty wide in college football. The closer the kick, the sharper the angle to kick. That said, you don't make that play without a timeout left. It works if the refs get the defender off the ball, or flag him. I should say it differently... It works if the refs do their job correctly. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:57 am ] |
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I am a Badger fan, but just kick the 30 yard field goal and you are not put in this situation. |
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| Author: | GOIrishND [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
I feel badly for you. Back in '82, USC-ND had the "phantom fumble" play that's considered to have cost ND the game out at the Coliseum. Long trip and an "L" to show for it. I'm not necessarily saying this was comparable as far as the refs go, but the result has the same sting for fans -- hard to get over. |
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| Author: | Bucky Chris [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:21 pm ] |
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http://www.offtackleempire.com/2013/9/1 ... e#comments 8 seconds of the defender laying on the ball. That's a delay of game. If there was confusion about the kneel (the ref in the backfield saw it), review the play and put time on the clock. |
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| Author: | Bucky Chris [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
PAC 12 apology. I feel sooooo much better now: Walnut Creek, Calif. -- Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott has reprimanded and taken additional sanctions against officials in Saturday night's Wisconsin at Arizona State game for failing to properly administer the end of game situation and act with appropriate urgency on the game's final play, it was announced today. With 18 seconds remaining in the game, Wisconsin's quarterback ran the ball toward the center of the field, touched his knee to the ground and then placed the ball on the ground. There was initial uncertainty over whether the quarterback had taken a knee, given himself up or fumbled the ball. As a result several Arizona State players considered the ball live and a fumble, and attempted to recover the ball. Neither the referee nor anyone on his crew moved with appropriate urgency to clearly communicate that the ball was to be spotted so play could resume promptly. "This was an unusual situation to end the game," said Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott. “After a thorough review, we have determined that the officials fell short of the high standard in which Pac-12 games should be managed. We will continue to work with all our officials to ensure this type of situation never occurs again." Categories: Arizona State Football Arizona State Football |
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| Author: | My_name_1s_MUD [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:20 pm ] |
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So ASU players did nothing wrong. What should have happened was the refs should have clearly blown the play dead. Since the didn't, they should have added about 7 seconds back on to the clock. Looking at the way Stave did it, I can understand the confusion. Ultimately the refs should have conferred instead of just running off the field. |
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| Author: | Bucky Chris [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Big Ten Football Thread 2013 |
My_name_1s_MUD wrote: So ASU players did nothing wrong. What should have happened was the refs should have clearly blown the play dead. Since the didn't, they should have added about 7 seconds back on to the clock. Looking at the way Stave did it, I can understand the confusion. Ultimately the refs should have conferred instead of just running off the field. "Looking at the way Stave did it" The ref in the backfield sees it clear as day. He just simply doesn't bother to attempt to communicate with the ref letting the linemen sit on the ball. |
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| Author: | My_name_1s_MUD [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:18 pm ] |
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So you're telling me it didn't look odd at all? |
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| Author: | Kirkwood [ Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:58 am ] |
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tOSU is killing it. They need to play a real opponent already. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:09 pm ] |
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The next Bears QB is playing on ESPN2 for San Jose St against Minny. |
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