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I am on the phone with Schiano TODAY!

He is a program builder. His rah, rah style plays well in football. He has some ties to the area after coaching on the Bears.

This is just the kind of bold move that you will never see at Illinois.

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I am on the phone with Schiano TODAY!

He is a program builder. His rah, rah style plays well in football. He has some ties to the area after coaching on the Bears.

This is just the kind of bold move that you will never see at Illinois.


He is most likely going to Penn State.

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I am on the phone with Schiano TODAY!

He is a program builder. His rah, rah style plays well in football. He has some ties to the area after coaching on the Bears.

This is just the kind of bold move that you will never see at Illinois.


He is most likely going to Penn State.


The ESPN guys spent the better part of a half hour telling me Al Golden would leave The U for PSU when O'Brien leaves PSU for the Texans.

Schiano seems like an underwhelming hire for PSU. They have weathered the storm and are on the cusp of football royalty again.

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What the Illinois AD needs to do is get his head out of his ass and upgrade the baseball facilities. Baseball is quickly becoming a revenue producing sport for many Colleges and it's only going up as ESPN broadcasts more and more games.

There was a recent study that showed Illinois High Schools produced the 5th most professional baseball players in the country behind California, Florida, Texas and Georgia. Only one of this years top twenty Illinois High School players is going to a school in Illinois and he's going to Illinois State.

Colleges are upgrading their baseball facilities all over the country seeing the future of the sport while Illinois sits back and does nothing and lets star recruit after star recruit go to a College out of state.


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College baseball is terrible. I'd rather watch any other college sport.

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What the Illinois AD needs to do is get his head out of his ass and upgrade the baseball facilities. Baseball is quickly becoming a revenue producing sport for many Colleges and it's only going up as ESPN broadcasts more and more games.

There was a recent study that showed Illinois High Schools produced the 5th most professional baseball players in the country behind California, Florida, Texas and Georgia. Only one of this years top twenty Illinois High School players is going to a school in Illinois and he's going to Illinois State.

Colleges are upgrading their baseball facilities all over the country seeing the future of the sport while Illinois sits back and does nothing and lets star recruit after star recruit go to a College out of state.

I think this is a great idea. Illinois should stop focusing on football and basketball. Let Baseball be their sport.

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Illinois can't get big name head coaches anymore. Hell, they hire Mac guys now.

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Why the hell would a big name guy want anything to do with Illini football?

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Why the hell would a big name guy want anything to do with Illini football?


Nothing.

All these guys on the move and the Illini are at best a stepping stone or a fall back school now.

Mack Brown next?

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Why the hell would a big name guy want anything to do with Illini football?


Because I like them.

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Schiano is a big name guy? Could have fooled me.

He was an up and comer who just had a career setback from my perspective.

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RFDC wrote:
I think this is a great idea. Illinois should stop focusing on football and basketball. Let Baseball be their sport.

College baseball is an atrocity.

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RFDC wrote:
I think this is a great idea. Illinois should stop focusing on football and basketball. Let Baseball be their sport.

College baseball is an atrocity.


Not at successful schools it isn't. Indiana and Michigan are making a huge push to join southern schools in the party now. Many schools are selling out entire seasons now & the sport is becoming fairly profitable.

The sad thing is that it really wouldn't even take much for Illinois to routinely battle for a Big 10 title or CWS berth. They are just clueless recruiting and promoting that sport as they are in seemingly every other.

Indiana and Louisville both win, promote (& sell tickets) with a number of Chicago area prospects and Michigan will be soon.

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Regular Reader wrote:
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RFDC wrote:
I think this is a great idea. Illinois should stop focusing on football and basketball. Let Baseball be their sport.

College baseball is an atrocity.


Not at successful schools it isn't. Indiana and Michigan are making a huge push to join southern schools in the party now. Many schools are selling out entire seasons now & the sport is becoming fairly profitable.

The sad thing is that it really wouldn't even take much for Illinois to routinely battle for a Big 10 title or CWS berth. They are just clueless recruiting and promoting that sport as they are in seemingly every other.

Indiana and Louisville both win, promote (& sell tickets) with a number of Chicago area prospects and Michigan will be soon.

It's the only thing my Hogs can hang their hat on right now. :oops:

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I'd sooner watch Kane County baseball than anything college has to offer

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Summer wood bat leagues > college baseball. No game with the *PING* is legitimate in my baseball world.

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They have taken so much out of the bats, it really isn't much different than wood now.

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Summer wood bat leagues > college baseball. No game with the *PING* is legitimate in my baseball world.
College baseball isn't going to happen. Too cold. Too slow. Too much overlap with the superior college basketball.

If anything gets big, it's college hockey, because the Big Ten needs something it can be good at.

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College hockey is trending upward as American hockey development grows, but the best North American players -- especially forwards -- will always play junior instead and take that faster path to the NHL. Defensemen, who take longer, may well gravitate to expanded NCAA play en route to the NHL rather than doing juniors and then toiling in the AHL for years. To wit, the Hawks are happy to keep Stephen Johns parked at Notre Dame for four years -- presuming that he signs before his rights expire, that is. The consequence, of course, is that college hockey will always be a more defensive, clutch-and-grab game, which you may recognize as precisely what damn near sunk the NHL ten years ago. Now if you're having fun at the games, who cares, but it's never going to be the showcase of raw talent that the O and the Q are.

The Blackhawks and Blues should both throw some money at U of I to get a hockey program started there. It can only help both teams, especially the Blues, to have a greater hockey culture in the state.

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They have taken so much out of the bats, it really isn't much different than wood now.


I really wish they'd simply go to wood at every level now. I'm so tired of seeing the cheap opposite field gork "shots" that aluminum still allows.

And I love to watch the goofy looks on kids' faces when they get sawed off on inside pitches.

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Are there Title IX rules that make it hard for schools to run top-flight baseball programs? Didn't Wisconsin discontinue a pretty solid baseball program because they had to extend the same scholarship benefits to softball?

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I'm not saying college baseball is going to be the next big thing but it is gaining in popularity and smart schools (like Purdue) are going to cash in on that popularity. As Reader said it wouldn't take much for Illinois to be a consistently good baseball program but for some reason they have no interest in taking advantage of a huge home state advantage. Instead they let schools like Louisville, Indiana, Notre Dame, Purdue and Missouri take all the top talent out of state.


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They let everyone else take their basketball talent out of state, so I don't know why it's a surprise.

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I'm not saying college baseball is going to be the next big thing but it is gaining in popularity and smart schools (like Purdue) are going to cash in on that popularity. As Reader said it wouldn't take much for Illinois to be a consistently good baseball program but for some reason they have no interest in taking advantage of a huge home state advantage. Instead they let schools like Louisville, Indiana, Notre Dame, Purdue and Missouri take all the top talent out of state.
Yeah. Purdue is so smart they spent money on baseball and swimming and diving while the football stadium still has bleachers. :lol:

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Are there Title IX rules that make it hard for schools to run top-flight baseball programs? Didn't Wisconsin discontinue a pretty solid baseball program because they had to extend the same scholarship benefits to softball?


It's actually only 12 scholarships :wink: , but with the coaches' salaries & travel costs, maybe.

But damn if you don't have southern programs that sell out entire seasons and travel well.... :mrgreen:

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Curious Hair wrote:
Are there Title IX rules that make it hard for schools to run top-flight baseball programs? Didn't Wisconsin discontinue a pretty solid baseball program because they had to extend the same scholarship benefits to softball?

That is true, way back when all the Titls IX went into affect. They are starting discussions to bring it back, it just amazes me they are the only school in the Big 10 without baseball.

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They have taken so much out of the bats, it really isn't much different than wood now.


I really wish they'd simply go to wood at every level now. I'm so tired of seeing the cheap opposite field gork "shots" that aluminum still allows.

And I love to watch the goofy looks on kids' faces when they get sawed off on inside pitches.

I don't disagree, but you have to admit the home run numbers were way down last year and have been for a couple of years with the changes they have made. I just don't know from a cost aspect if they ever will go to the wood bats.

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I'm not saying college baseball is going to be the next big thing but it is gaining in popularity and smart schools (like Purdue) are going to cash in on that popularity. As Reader said it wouldn't take much for Illinois to be a consistently good baseball program but for some reason they have no interest in taking advantage of a huge home state advantage. Instead they let schools like Louisville, Indiana, Notre Dame, Purdue and Missouri take all the top talent out of state.
Yeah. Purdue is so smart they spent money on baseball and swimming and diving while the football stadium still has bleachers. :lol:

Purdue has had very good recuiting classes the last couple years and are building a nice program. Maybe when they host a baseball regional on campus rather than having to play it in Gary they can buy the football stadium seats.


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I don't disagree, but you have to admit the home run numbers were way down last year and have been for a couple of years with the changes they have made. I just don't know from a cost aspect if they ever will go to the wood bats.


I don't think they ever will either, cost & offensive concerns combined. Although I actually don't mind the lack of home runs.

Then again, I'm of the group that still finds the triple to be the most exciting play in baseball.

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I don't disagree, but you have to admit the home run numbers were way down last year and have been for a couple of years with the changes they have made. I just don't know from a cost aspect if they ever will go to the wood bats.


I don't think they ever will either, cost & offensive concerns combined. Although I actually don't mind the lack of home runs.

Then again, I'm of the group that still finds the triple to be the most exciting play in baseball.

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