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Author:  Rod [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:07 am ]
Post subject:  Which is better?
Getting eliminated in the first round of the NCAA Tournament or winning the NIT?
Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
The former.
Author:  Douchebag [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Getting eliminated in the first round of the NCAA Tournament or winning the NIT?

The college football bowl system.
Author:  RFDC [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
All depends on the school and the situation.

In no way shape or form is Illinois being in the NIT a good thing.
Author:  Krazy Ivan [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
RFDC wrote:
All depends on the school and the situation.

In no way shape of form is Illinois being in the NIT a good thing.



ditto
Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
RFDC wrote:
All depends on the school and the situation.

In no way shape of form is Illinois being in the NIT a good thing.

Mad that your team didn't even get invited?
Author:  RFDC [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
FavreFan wrote:
RFDC wrote:
All depends on the school and the situation.

In no way shape of form is Illinois being in the NIT a good thing.

Mad that your team didn't even get invited?

Not at all.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
FavreFan wrote:
RFDC wrote:
All depends on the school and the situation.

In no way shape of form is Illinois being in the NIT a good thing.

Mad that your team didn't even get invited?

I think BRick got Ivan a 5 seed in the NIT. He weilds enormous influence
Author:  Brick [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
The answer is always the NCAA, even for a team like Colorado or American who got blown out.

That is why it is somewhat sad that things like the Rose Bowl seem destined to become the NIT of college football, though with a 4 team playoff it may be able to hang on with some level of relevance.
Author:  Rod [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
RFDC wrote:
All depends on the school and the situation.

In no way shape or form is Illinois being in the NIT a good thing.



Are you too young to remember how excited Indiana and its fans were to win the NIT in 1979? A good performance in the NIT often sets the stage for a big season the following year.
Author:  Brick [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
I meant the NCAA is always better. My post must have been confusing.
Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
Like our chances against Clemson, JORR?
Author:  RFDC [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
RFDC wrote:
All depends on the school and the situation.

In no way shape or form is Illinois being in the NIT a good thing.



Are you too young to remember how excited Indiana and its fans were to win the NIT in 1979? A good performance in the NIT often sets the stage for a big season the following year.

Maybe eventually you will convince yourself this is a good year for Illinois.

I am glad to see you have lower expectations for a middle of the pack Big 10 team. Will help you survive the Groce years. 8)
Author:  spanky [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
Is this even a debate?
NCAA
Author:  Douchebag [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
The answer is always the NCAA, even for a team like Colorado or American who got blown out.

That is why it is somewhat sad that things like the Rose Bowl seem destined to become the NIT of college football, though with a 4 team playoff it may be able to hang on with some level of relevance.

The current bowl system is pretty much equal to the Maui Invitational. Becoming the NIT will be a step up.
Author:  Rod [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
FavreFan wrote:
Like our chances against Clemson, JORR?


I like the Illini to at least make it to face Southern Methodist.

And I disagree with BRick that getting blown out in a first round NCAA game is better than winning the NIT. It's only better to make the NCAA until you get killed. Once you lose like you're supposed to, it's obvious that putting together a run in tournament format helps your team going forward, especially if you have a bunch of young guys returning.
Author:  Brick [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
Douchebag wrote:
The current bowl system is pretty much equal to the Maui Invitational. Becoming the NIT will be a step up.
No.
Author:  Rod [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
spanky wrote:
Is this even a debate?
NCAA



Maybe Selection Sunday is the biggest day in sports.
Author:  spanky [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
The current bowl system is pretty much equal to the Maui Invitational. Becoming the NIT will be a step up.
No.

Like usual, BRick is right.
Author:  Douchebag [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
spanky wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
The current bowl system is pretty much equal to the Maui Invitational. Becoming the NIT will be a step up.
No.

Like usual, BRick is right.

You're right.

Someone would rather go to the Poinsetta bowl and play a meaningless game vs having a shot at winning the national championship.

My bad.
Author:  spanky [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
Douchebag wrote:
spanky wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
The current bowl system is pretty much equal to the Maui Invitational. Becoming the NIT will be a step up.
No.

Like usual, BRick is right.

You're right.

Someone would rather go to the Poinsetta bowl and play a meaningless game vs having a shot at winning the national championship.

My bad.

What does that have to do with the Maui Invite or the NIT?
Author:  bigfan [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
RFDC wrote:
All depends on the school and the situation.

In no way shape or form is Illinois being in the NIT a good thing.

Being a #2 ranked team in the NIT means you just missed the field of 64. per Groce. :lol:
Author:  Rod [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
bigfan wrote:
RFDC wrote:
All depends on the school and the situation.

In no way shape or form is Illinois being in the NIT a good thing.

Being a #2 ranked team in the NIT means you just missed the field of 64. per Groce. :lol:


Well, if you were really trying to get the best 64 teams right now in the Tournament, I think Illinois has to be in. I told you last week that Ohio State and Iowa were going out first round. Maybe Illinois would have too, but I doubt they would have lost to Dayton or Tennessee right now. You never know though, obviously they had their hands full with BU the other night.
Author:  Brick [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
Douchebag wrote:
Someone would rather go to the Poinsetta bowl and play a meaningless game vs having a shot at winning the national championship.
You don't think people enjoy going to the Rose Bowl?
Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
bigfan wrote:
RFDC wrote:
All depends on the school and the situation.

In no way shape or form is Illinois being in the NIT a good thing.

Being a #2 ranked team in the NIT means you just missed the field of 64. per Groce. :lol:


Well, if you were really trying to get the best 64 teams right now in the Tournament, I think Illinois has to be in.

They need to get rid of the automatic bids then. It makes the regular season not matter as much as you say it does. A 13-19 team has no business in the NCAA Tournament.
Author:  spanky [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
They can keep the auto bids, but they need to give the automatic bids to the reg season champs.
Author:  FavreFan [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
spanky wrote:
They can keep the auto bids, but they need to give the automatic bids to the reg season champs.

I guess that's fine too. Teams don't really seem to give a shit about their conference tournaments anyway.
Author:  spanky [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
FavreFan wrote:
spanky wrote:
They can keep the auto bids, but they need to give the automatic bids to the reg season champs.

I guess that's fine too. Teams don't really seem to give a shit about their conference tournaments anyway.

It benefits most conferences to have the best team "tank" in the conference tourney.
Author:  Rod [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
spanky wrote:
They can keep the auto bids, but they need to give the automatic bids to the reg season champs.


It doesn't really matter for the big conferences. The regular season champ is going to make it anyway. Besides that, I think it's up to the individual conferences to decide how they want to assign their automatic bid, isn't it? If one of these small conferences has a freak team win its tournament and that keeps out their really good regular season champ with only a couple losses, they have no one to blame but themselves.

For the record, I don't think Illinois deserved to be in the Tournament. The regular season has to count. I'm merely pointing out that they are a better team right now, today, than a bunch of teams that did get in, including several from their own conference.
Author:  Hawg Ass [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Which is better?
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
spanky wrote:
They can keep the auto bids, but they need to give the automatic bids to the reg season champs.


It doesn't really matter for the big conferences. The regular season champ is going to make it anyway. Besides that, I think it's up to the individual conferences to decide how they want to assign their automatic bid, isn't it? If one of these small conferences has a freak team win its tournament and that keeps out their really good regular season champ with only a couple losses, they have no one to blame but themselves.

For the record, I don't think Illinois deserved to be in the Tournament. The regular season has to count. I'm merely pointing out that they are a better team right now, today, than a bunch of teams that did get in, including several from their own conference.

Yes, it is up to the conferences on they give out their Automatic bid.
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