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| Author: | shakes [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Never thought this would be a legit question, but after two consecutive trips to the Super Bowl in my 20 team league with AJ sitting on the bench in street clothes I'm seriously considering dumping him and keeping Welker. I'm coming off a title no thanks to Andre. Brady is my keeper QB so I have the Brady/Welker thing going on. My other keeper is Darren McFadden who also missed my Super Bowl victory. Pretty amazing I won a Super Bowl in a 20 team league without by #1 WR and #1 RB. So as great as AJ is, should I dump him in favor of Welker b/c of the injury issues? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Can you keep both and dump McFadden? |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Andre Johnson Delete this thread before anyone else sees it... |
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| Author: | shakes [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
rogers park bryan wrote: Can you keep both and dump McFadden? no, you can only keep one player per position. |
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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Who are the morons in your 20 team league that allowed you to get Brady/Johnson/Welker/McFad? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Gotta be a PPR league right or else Johnson for sure |
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| Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
rogers park bryan wrote: Gotta be a PPR league right or else Johnson for sure Agreed. If it isnt PPR Johnson has to stay and even if it is PPR I still think he needs to stay. |
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| Author: | shakes [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Krazy Ivan wrote: Andre Johnson Delete this thread before anyone else sees it... So you think this is a no brainer? Why? 2011 stats: Welker: 16gp, 1569 yards, 9td AJ: 7gp, 492, 2 2010: Welker (the year after ACL): 15gp, 848 yards, 7td AJ: 13gp, 1216, 8td 2009: Welker: 14gp, 1438, 4td AJ: 16gp, 1569, 9td (all career highs) Andre's best career season is 100% identical to Welker's 2011 season. Andre hasn't been able to stay healthy for 2 straight years now, especially late in the year during FF playoffs. Its non ppr which helps the case for Andre, but even still, these two are a lot closer than you are insinuating. If I was guaranteed perfect health, I would defiinitely take Andre. But, obviously I can't get that guarantee and based on Welker's stats I think that levels the playing field and makes this a really tough choice. |
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| Author: | shakes [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Northside_Dan wrote: Who are the morons in your 20 team league that allowed you to get Brady/Johnson/Welker/McFad? This is our 4th season. The first draft I took Andre first round, Brady second and got McFadden in the 8th (back before he broke out a few seasons ago). Last year had the 19th pick and took Welker and then Brandon Marsall on the way back. Got Sproles later on which proved to be the pick that won me the title. Also took McFadden's backup which helped out. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
I know nothing is promised, but I would go into the season assuming that Johnson will be healthy. Johnson has about 2500 more yards and 20 more TD's in the same amount of games (two less, even). I just think you'd be pretty pissed if you kept Welker and they both end up having an average season... |
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| Author: | shakes [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Krazy Ivan wrote: I know nothing is promised, but I would go into the season assuming that Johnson will be healthy. Johnson has about 2500 more yards and 20 more TD's in the same amount of games (two less, even). I just think you'd be pretty pissed if you kept Welker and they both end up having an average season... no doubt if AJ stays healthy I'd be pissed. But, on the flipside if he gets hurt again and Welker continues to play like he did last year I'd be just as pissed, even moreso because it has the fool me three times feel to it. Another scenario I'm exploring is trying to trade AJ to my brother for Julio Jones. What do you think of that? |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
shakes wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: I know nothing is promised, but I would go into the season assuming that Johnson will be healthy. Johnson has about 2500 more yards and 20 more TD's in the same amount of games (two less, even). I just think you'd be pretty pissed if you kept Welker and they both end up having an average season... no doubt if AJ stays healthy I'd be pissed. But, on the flipside if he gets hurt again and Welker continues to play like he did last year I'd be just as pissed, even moreso because it has the fool me three times feel to it. Another scenario I'm exploring is trying to trade AJ to my brother for Julio Jones. What do you think of that? I'd make him throw something else in to that deal... |
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| Author: | shakes [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Krazy Ivan wrote: I'd make him throw something else in to that deal... maybe I can squeeze Julio + 3rd or 4th round pick for AJ. I would defnitely do that and not look back twice, even if AJ stayed healthy all year and had a great season. Its a keeper league and JJ is the real deal, no different than AJ coming out of college or at this point in their careers. Plus he's younger and doesn't have me cringing every time he takes a stride downfield like AJ. But JJ only played 13 games last year, what was his injury? |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Hamstring I think. Nothing major... |
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| Author: | shakes [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
ok that didn't work out so well....just offered that trade to my brother and he thought I was offering AJ + my 3rd rd pick for JJ. So obviously he doesn't rate AJ too high. Can't say I blame him, it was a sucker's trade considering the injury history of AJ and the unlimited potential of JJ. |
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| Author: | shakes [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Krazy Ivan wrote: Hamstring I think. Nothing major... Nothing major?  Tell that to my guy Andre! He missed 9 games last year with hammy issues and ended up having to have hamstring surgery. Also, jsut read that Andre had offseason arthroscopic knee surgery and isn't participating in mini camp right now cause he's still not healthy. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Andre's was a major tear. Jone's wasn't. Hence "nothing major". I'd stick with Andre if I were you. Can't let injury factor into the decision unless it's a.) Someone still recovering or b.) Someone with a history of the same injury. He'll be fine... |
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| Author: | 312player [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
I would keep Johnson and dump Welker. |
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| Author: | Scorehead [ Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Keep AJ, without giving it a 2nd thought. I'm in a keeper league that I have participated in for 5 years. We keep 3 Offensive players, & my 3 keepers are Rodgers, Rice, & AJ. I have won the league the last 3 years. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Keep McFadden, and trade him after he has his first huge game. He will be out for the year soon after that. |
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| Author: | Baby McNown [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
I'm a big Wes Welker fan, but I'd still keep AJ and then delete this thread. |
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| Author: | shakes [ Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
You guys were saying?? Unfortunately, I didn't listen to my gut and instead went with the conventional wisdom and kept Andre. Now I'm going to see if anyone in my league is dumb enough to give me a first round pick for him. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
Johnson is killing me...he has not produced at all this year..going to bench him for Hester if he does not turn it around next week. |
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| Author: | shakes [ Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Keeper question: Welker or Andre Johnson? |
312player wrote: Johnson is killing me...he has not produced at all this year..going to bench him for Hester if he does not turn it around next week. You got much bigger problems than Andre Johnson if you're retarded enough to have Hester on your team. |
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