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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:34 pm 
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Anyone using a cloud system for 'everything'? Every email, document, pics, even the clean ones! etc?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:36 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: CLOUDERS
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:42 pm 
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I don't understand what it is or how to save things to it. So no.


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 Post subject: Re: CLOUDERS
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:59 am 
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bigfan wrote:
Anyone using a cloud system for 'everything'? Every email, document, pics, even the clean ones! etc?


My "My Documents" is a Dropbox folder so I have the same docs on every device. I use gmail. I want to backup all of my photos to the cloud, but haven't found a way I like yet so I just use an external drive.

My phone and iPad (and data) are all backed up to the cloud, and not synced with a computer.


But to specifically answer your question, not a single source for everything. What are you thinking about using?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:52 am 
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bigfan wrote:
Anyone using a cloud system for 'everything'? Every email, document, pics, even the clean ones! etc?
Yes.

Everyone should have a 2-4 bay home NAS system. All photos and documents should be copied to that every so often. You are then protected except in the case of catastrophic damage or theft. There are a ton of options out there but just make sure it has a minimum of two bays, otherwise you aren't really protecting yourself since a hard drive failing on that one means your data is gone anyways. You can supplement it with a usb hard drive which are becoming pretty cheap for a lot of storage. You can also supplement it with a cloud storage solution like google drive or dropbox which I use both of.

Basically, anything electronic you care about should be in three separate places or if you are using cloud storage, one local and one in the cloud.

So, if you are worried about security in the cloud, and you probably shouldn't be, then have this setup.
1) Important files on your primary computer.
2) Important files backed up to a 2+ bay NAS.
3) Important files backed up every so often to a large portable flash storage system which you then store in a different part of your house than the NAS.

If you think you can trust the evil cloud.
1) Important files on either a 2+ bay NAS or large portable flash storage.
2) Important files put on google drive or dropbox.

Never trust a single source for anything you care about keeping. Eventually, all things fail. It's just a matter of when.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:00 am 
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If I was in the market for a 4 bay NAS, I'd go with this one.
http://www.cnet.com/products/synology-diskstation-ds412-plus/
You do need to buy 4 hard drives for it so the solution isn't cheap.

For a cheaper version, with 2 bays, I'd go with this one.
http://www.cnet.com/products/synology-diskstation-ds214se/

Just make sure you never use RAID0, because that doesn't give you much of a failsafe. RAID basically copies your data to two hard drives, so in the case of one hard drive failing, you have a second one with all the data.

There are a lot of good options out there though.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:24 am 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:34 am 
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immessedup17 wrote:
I don't back up anything. Live life on the edge.

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 Post subject: Re: CLOUDERS
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:25 pm 
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Another computer crash....time to go cloud.

The naked pics of myself, nikki minaj and bridget the midget might just be free game for the hackers!

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 Post subject: Re: CLOUDERS
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:27 pm 
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Yes.

Pics, music, stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: CLOUDERS
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Spaulding wrote:
I don't understand what it is or how to save things to it. So no.


I don't understand it either. I just have a couple different external hard drives.
My iTunes library is on both of them, and I've still got the 700+ original cds I've ripped to itunes,
so I'm safe on all my music. I should probably put all the family photos and vids on an additional HD.

I don't really worry about it too much. I'm not that concerned about being hacked,
but I do think it's probably safer to just keep important stuff in a lockbox or some shit rather than some nebulous "cloud".

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bigfan wrote:
Another computer crash....time to go cloud.

The naked pics of myself, nikki minaj and bridget the midget might just be free game for the hackers!


Let's see those naked pics!!!


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 Post subject: Re: CLOUDERS
PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:29 am 
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Here is an analogy to the cloud. Let's say you have a baby picture you really want to keep. You make a copy and send it to a friend for safe keeping. That friend then makes a copy of it and sends it to two other friends. Those friends make a copy and send it to two other friends. There is now your original copy, and the one you sent to a friend, and then a few other copies floating around. This means that unless there is some sort of worldwide catastrophe that you will be able to retrieve a copy of the photo.

Now, instead of friends, imagine if it was instead a company that had a photo storage vault in Virginia, Texas, Oklahoma, and Oregon, and when you send them the photo they make a copy and put one in each vault. You have to trust them that they aren't going to be doing anything with your photo but you also are guaranteed that even 50 years from now you have access to that photo. One of those vaults can fail and the others still have your stuff. You can lose your original and just get it from those.

That is pretty much the exact concept of the cloud but obviously with digital files at least when talking about storage. So basically, you want to use the cloud because it is better and safer for you just like you want to use a bank instead of storing money under your mattress.

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