Which one is better for the seriously casual gamer?

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PS4

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Why

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Wii

Which system has the games you want to play, pick that one.

Also, if you are "seriously casual", why would you get a PS4 Pro when you could get a PS4 Slim?

Whatever system your friends have.

Generally a good point, except you're responding to a Spiral post, so .....

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Better exclusive games. Better controller.

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why would a casual gamer buy a ps4 pro? buy the slim version, make sure it has a 1tb hard drive.

Spiral makes

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I just had to return my XBox One.

Slow-track...

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my xbox one broke a few months after getting it. My Ps4 has been going strong for years.

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My Xbox one is still trucking after over 2 years.
No problems.
I prefer the Xbox controller. Specifically the Elite. It's awesome.
I don't like the ps controllers at all. They feel goofy.
At this point neither is better than the other. Buy what your friends have, get the one that has the games you like if any of them are exclusives (should be seeing less and less of these, developers don't want to only be able to reach 50% of the potential market).
Sooner or later we'll have cross platform game parties and then it really won't matter at all.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

#morethanmean

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Yep, the xbox controller feels much more comfortable to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ukz8MEyYq0

I'm an Xbox guy.

My gamerscore means a lot to me.

I had a love/hate relationship with achievements and Gamerscore...I remember playing games long after I was bored with them just to hit the 1000 points and dropping games I was still having fun with because I hit the 1000. Now I'm spending almost all my gaming time playing a game that's been out for 2 and a half years and have had the 1000/1250/1500 for it for a while.

I don't understand the point of gamerscores and achievements and trophies. You don't actually get anything for getting them, either in game or out. They're just there so you can brag to your online friends about the time you found all the collectibles in an RPG? Why would anyone care about that? Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

I've always said there's nothing to be ashamed of for playing video games, but there's also nothing to be proud of for excelling at them.

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Console exclusivity is growing, not decreasing.

Sony has many flagship first party studios. I think Microsoft still has a couple and is probably trying to get more.

Exclusive titles is probably why Sony is winning the current console wars... and it seems to remain that way for the next year or two based on the upcoming release schedule.

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Aside from Gears of War, which is a pretty stale franchise, what exclusives does Xbox even have these days? Forza I guess. I think Tomb Raider started out as an Xbox exclusive, but its on every system now.

PlayStation has Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank and the recently released Horizon Zero Dawn.

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Upcoming PS4 console exclusives:

Days Gone
God of War
Spider-Man
Detroit: Become Human
Death Stranding
The Last of Us Part II
Gran Turismo Sport
Final Fantasy VII Remake
Uncharted: Lost Legacy
Ni No Kuni 2
Hellblade
(unknown new IP by SuckerPunch)

...and of course Sony has MLB: The Show every year and in 2017 had Horizon Zero Dawn and Tales of Berseria

Upcoming XBox Exclusives:

Crackdown 3
uhhh....do people know about State of Decay 2?

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves with Gran Turismo Sport.

It's supposed to sound a lot better.

We'll see.

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This doesn't apply anymore to me but there was a satisfaction to hearing that stupid little achievement sound for the last time when you knew you hit 1000/1000 on a game. Especially satisfying were really tough ones like COD4 (Mile High Club was a bitch).

Might be a stupid reason to play in your book. That's fine. I'm sure as hell not going to go to bat for it now because I don't really care about it anymore. But I'd argue regardless of why you are playing, it's all ultimately insignificant as we are talking about video games so if you are getting enjoyment out of it, for whatever reason, who really cares?

Halo...though I'm not sure how much of a cash cow that franchise has been for them since 343 took over development.

My hope would be Microsoft announces some exclusive stuff at E3 that's worth playing. If all we get is an hour of Scorpio talk followed by 10 minutes of Crackdown 3 and a teaser for a new Halo, I'll be extremely dissapointed

Grabbed an Xbox S yesterday, 325$ out the door..1 terabyte and one controller..came with shadow of wars. Fair price?

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Haven't gotten to play shit yet with one update after the next.

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Do you really need 1tb? I upgraded to an S recently. 500gb for $250 on Amazon. Quieter and smaller than the original VCR looking thing.

Probably gonna buy an Xbox in March for Sea Of Theives. It's an open world mmo pirate game. I've been waiting for this my entire life. Yarrr.