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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:46 am 
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I think they addressed that it wasn't meant for parity.


But Hamlin is complaining that nobody can pass anyone!

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I think they addressed that it wasn't meant for parity.


But Hamlin is complaining that nobody can pass anyone!


Obviously everybody, NASCAR included, wants the car to be able to pass people. Hamlin is complaining that the car design is hindering that and he wasn't even really complaining as much as just giving a sub-mildly controversial opinion.

NASCAR is fining him because they made such a big push with the carmakers to develop and advertise how great this is that they don't want Hamlin or any other driver complaining about the car and pissing off Ford, Chevy, or Toyota. Just watch those NASCAR/Ford/Chevy/Toyota commercials touting how awesome these "showroom" cars are.

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Well, I like the way Hamlin drives but he should shut his pie hole unless he has something intelligent to say. NASCAR should have fined him for being stupid. He couldn't appeal that.

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Well, I like the way Hamlin drives but he should shut his pie hole unless he has something intelligent to say. NASCAR should have fined him for being stupid. He couldn't appeal that.

He can appeal it and has already done that.

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NASCAR should have fined him for being stupid. He couldn't appeal that.

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Imagine the fine if you said something negative about the #10 car.

Hamlin should have been black flagged for passing like a complete asshole on that last lap. If Brad didn't concede the spot he would have taken out have the field. The yellow line rule needs to be in effect when the entire damn car goes below it to make the pass.

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NASCAR should have fined him for being stupid. He couldn't appeal that.

My apologies, misunderstood your post the first time I read it.

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Everyone was saying this was a good thing a month ago. Differentiation. Better handling. Higher speeds. Less drafting. Now it's a piece of shit?


That was at Daytona. I don't think they question that it has higher speed and the differentiation is the main selling point of the change.

They will develop the handling and drafting aspects as they get more data as Hawg Ass said. Drivers are notorious for bitching about stuff. It's a big change and you can only model so much on a computer. They'll get it figured out by the All-Star race.

Doc, it was a shame there was no passing this weekend, damn that Gen 6 car. :x

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As far as passing goes, here's some stats I found scattered across Twitter in regard to yesterday's race:


@NASCARStats: Loop Data: There were 2,342 green flag passes all through the field today, up from 1,301 last year.


Green-flag passing up 80% from last year's Las Vegas race, according to #NASCAR loop data. Green-flag passes for lead most since 2005.


LOOP DATA RECORD: 31 green flag passes for the lead was the most @LVMotorSpeedway since the inception of Loop Data in 2005.


The per-mile pass frequency, 5.86, also trounced last week’s hotly-discussed rate (3.84) on Phoenix’s mile track.


The Earnhardt Ganassi Racing duo of Jamie McMurray and Juan Pablo Montoya earned the most green-flag passes of the day with 100 and 85 passes, respectively.

Scorehead is not going to like these facts about the Gen6 car, dammit.

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By the way KS, did you know we are enemies?

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By the way KS, did you know we are enemies?


What happened?

Go look at Brick's contest thingy.

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Keeping Score wrote:
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By the way KS, did you know we are enemies?


What happened?

Go look at Brick's contest thingy.


There's like 10 threads relating to it. Which one?

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=77627&start=75


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I don't understand how you're a 13 seed. Didn't you make it to the final 4 or 8 last year, or was that a different contest?

I'll vote for you.

I don't know where I got beat out last year, but I won a couple of rounds I thought. I guess when you post more and have lots of bad thoughts you drop in the seedings. :D

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Dale Earnhardt Jr. Tops List Of Nascar's Highest-Paid Drivers


Dale Earnhardt Jr. has been a lightning rod for Nascar fans since he joined the top level of the sport in 2000. Fans have voted him the sport’s most popular driver 10 straight years. He has dominated Nascar merchandise sales over the past decade with estimates putting his share as high as 35% of the total during some years. But the critics question his ardent following after extended winless streaks of 76 and 143 races and figure his support is simply a function of his famous name. Love him or hate him, there is no denying that Dale Jr. is still the biggest star in the sport.

Earnhardt is also the highest-paid driver in the sport for the fifth straight year with total earnings of $25.9 million in 2012 by our count. Earnhardt’s on-track performance has improved, and he made the Chase in 2012 for the second straight year after missing the cut in 2009 and 2010. He broke that 143 race winless streak at the Michigan International Speedway in June and is off to a strong start in 2013 with three straight top 10 finishes. We estimate that Earnhardt earned $12.9 million in combined salary and his share of prize money, which is split with Hendrick Motorsports. Earnhardt signed a contract extension with Hendrick in 2011 that will keep him part of Nascar’s most valuable team through at least 2017.

But what really separates Earnhardt from the rest of Nascar’s top drivers is his off-the-track earnings, which were $13 million last year. While Earnhardt’s licensing income is down like all drivers (some as much as 80%), he still generated the most licensing dollars in the sport last year. His endorsement income is tops as well, thanks to personal deals with Chevy, Goody’s, Nationwide, Wrangler and more. His latest deal is a partnership with Minnesota snack company KLN Family Brands to form Dale Jr. Foods. Last month, they introduced four Dale Jr. flavors of potato chips: Crispy Original, Carolina Barbecue, Creole & Green Onion and Zesty Jalapeno.

Another Hendrick driver, Jimmie Johnson, ranks No. 2 with earnings of $23 million. In fact, all four Hendrick drivers are among the 10 highest paid with Jeff Gordon No. 4 ($18 million) and Kasey Kahne at No. 9 ($12 million). Johnson barely missed his sixth Sprint Cup title in 2012, but it was still a banner year on the track, as he earned a Nascar-high $8.1 million in race winnings for the No. 48 car. His “Special Awards” and Sprint Cup bonuses added another $2.3 million.

Johnson is the heavy betting favorite to win the Sprint Cup title in 2013 and got off to a strong start with his second Daytona 500 victory in February. His long-time primary sponsor, Lowe’s, recently signed an extension with Hendrick Motorsports that will keep the sport’s most successful pairing together through at least 2015 when Johnson’s contract expires. Johnson’s personal sponsors include: Gatorade, Chevy and Tylenol.

Danica Patrick, ranks No. 7 with earnings of $12.9 million in 2012. Her merchandise was Nascar’s ninth best seller in 2012, according to Fanatics.com, one of the largest online retailers of officially licensed sports merchandise. But that ranking will jump this year, as she only raced in 10 Sprint Cup races last year and will be running a full-time Sprint Cup schedule in 2013 for the first time. Her merchandise was flying off shelves after she secured the pole for the Daytona 500. Her gear was Nascar’s best seller in the week leading up to Daytona on Fanatics.com–a spot usually reserved for Earnhardt. The Go Daddy girl has 15 personal sponsors including: Coca-Cola, Nationwide, Tissot and Sega.

Patrick gave Nascar a shot in the arm with her performance at Daytona, where she finished eighth and became the first woman to lead the Great American Race. Ratings for the race jumped 24%, and it was the most watched since 2008. The race was a hit for her car sponsor, Go Daddy, which received the second most exposure behind Lowe’s, who sponsored Johnson’s winning car, according to brand analysis and research firm Repucom. Go Daddy received $2.8 million in media value and all brands affiliated with Patrick garnered $6.8 million in value at Daytona by Repucom’s count. Her fire suit was tops in overall sponsor exposure among the 43 drivers at Daytona.

Patrick has attracted new followers to Nascar and elicited strong reactions, good and bad, from the sport’s longtime fans. “She has polarized some fans and that is a good thing for a sport,” says Nascar chief marketing officer Steve Phelps, who adds that Danica is a “great brand” and a “marketing phenomenon.”

Patrick is similar to Earnhardt in several ways. They are among the only drivers to garner significant personal endorsements with non-Nascar sponsors. She dominated IndyCar merchandise to a greater degree than even Earnhardt did with Nascar. She outsold the other 32 drivers combined at the 2005 Indy 500 and her merchandise was 43% of IndyCar’s total in 2006. Patrick raced for Earnhardt’s Nationwide Series team, JR Motorsports, between 2010 and 2012.

Nascar launched a five-year action plan last year that includes six core initiatives. One of those key areas is “driver star power,” which is intended to raise the visibility of drivers. Danica and Dale Jr. already aced the class, as the two crossover stars in the sport. Drivers should pay close attention to this initiative. Star power is good for the bank account.


Thanks for posting this. I feel like I could have written it, as it conveys perfectly well what I had tried to express in that.... other thread..

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Hawg Ass wrote:
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As far as passing goes, here's some stats I found scattered across Twitter in regard to yesterday's race:

@NASCARStats: Loop Data: There were 2,342 green flag passes all through the field today, up from 1,301 last year.

Green-flag passing up 80% from last year's Las Vegas race, according to #NASCAR loop data. Green-flag passes for lead most since 2005.

LOOP DATA RECORD: 31 green flag passes for the lead was the most @LVMotorSpeedway since the inception of Loop Data in 2005.

The per-mile pass frequency, 5.86, also trounced last week’s hotly-discussed rate (3.84) on Phoenix’s mile track.

The Earnhardt Ganassi Racing duo of Jamie McMurray and Juan Pablo Montoya earned the most green-flag passes of the day with 100 and 85 passes, respectively.


Scorehead is not going to like these facts about the Gen6 car, dammit.


I must have imagined all of the chatter about the lack of racing action with this car among drivers, fans & media people.

There is a reason that NASCAR met to discuss this & review the car.

No one cares about the number of passes in the back of the field.

If you follow racing, you know that the racing action today is nowhere near what it was 5 years ago.

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Hawg Ass wrote:
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As far as passing goes, here's some stats I found scattered across Twitter in regard to yesterday's race:

@NASCARStats: Loop Data: There were 2,342 green flag passes all through the field today, up from 1,301 last year.

Green-flag passing up 80% from last year's Las Vegas race, according to #NASCAR loop data. Green-flag passes for lead most since 2005.

LOOP DATA RECORD: 31 green flag passes for the lead was the most @LVMotorSpeedway since the inception of Loop Data in 2005.

The per-mile pass frequency, 5.86, also trounced last week’s hotly-discussed rate (3.84) on Phoenix’s mile track.

The Earnhardt Ganassi Racing duo of Jamie McMurray and Juan Pablo Montoya earned the most green-flag passes of the day with 100 and 85 passes, respectively.


Scorehead is not going to like these facts about the Gen6 car, dammit.


I must have imagined all of the chatter about the lack of racing action with this car among drivers, fans & media people.

There is a reason that NASCAR met to discuss this & review the car.

No one cares about the number of passes in the back of the field.

If you follow racing, you know that the racing action today is nowhere near what it was 5 years ago.

I knew I would be right.

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Coverage of Qualifying for the Food City 500 Sprint Cup Series race at Bristol Motor Speedway is scheduled for Friday, March 15, 2013 at 3:40pm/et.
TV: SPEED- 3:30pm/et
Radio: PRN at goprn.com.
Qualifying Re-Air: on SPEED at 10:30pm/et & 12:30am/et


For Realtime qualifying, check out:
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In other words, RIGHT NOW!!

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Ricky Stenhouse Jr had to change engines from his earlier troubles in practice. He will start in the back on Sunday.


NEW TRACK QUALIFYING RECORD at Bristol was just run by Kyle Busch.


So, I see you are ignoring my request!!! :evil:

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Was his spotter taking a nap?

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Keeping Score wrote:
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Ricky Stenhouse Jr had to change engines from his earlier troubles in practice. He will start in the back on Sunday.


NEW TRACK QUALIFYING RECORD at Bristol was just run by Kyle Busch.


So, I see you are ignoring my request!!! :evil:


Um, I already addressed your request in the post above your post saying I ignored it. Which is actually this post that I'm quoting.

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I missed it, I apologai good sir. I will make it up to you with a beer when I see you in Appleton in 2 weeks.

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Was his spotter taking a nap?



I wish you'd take a nap so that you can re-focus.

I'm at work, if I could be at home and take a walk outside I would be totally in focus. 8)

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Was his spotter taking a nap?


Must have been, or looking at pictures of Danica's manifold... that was a hard hit.

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Was his spotter taking a nap?


Must have been, or looking at pictures of Danica's manifold... that was a hard hit.


I really don't know what dude was looking at. He certainly had time to react.

As Roscoe P. Coltrane would say, that was a tremendous crash, Flash!!

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No wonder Riggs can't qualify. He's wearing an eye patch!

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Once again, the world will not see the brilliance that is Scott Riggs.

Riggs is a better stock car driver than 1/3 of the field. At least.

No joke.

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