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Once again, the world will not see the brilliance that is Scott Riggs.

Riggs is a better stock car driver than 1/3 of the field. At least.

No joke.


So what you are saying is that if you put him in the #10 car he is easily in the top 15?

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Once again, the world will not see the brilliance that is Scott Riggs.

Riggs is a better stock car driver than 1/3 of the field. At least.

No joke.


So what you are saying is that if you put him in the #10 car he is easily in the top 15?


I don't know about that, but Sweetcheeks is certainly the worst driver in the race...by far.

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Well, here's hoping you guys are all right and she is soon kicked out of the sport.

I'm tired of all this relevance.

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Well, here's hoping you guys are all right and she is soon kicked out of the sport.

I'm tired of all this relevance.


Ok....I recognize the spike in new viewers and the additional media coverage at Daytona. How do you sustain that when the attention drastically dwarfs the actual ability to drive a stock race car? Daytona and speedweeks are great but there is a large amount of fools gold associated with them. The last few weeks show that her performance at Daytona was largely the exception and not the rule. She hasn't been a little bad, she has been downright uncompetitive. What are those fans, the sponsors and the media going to do until they get back to a super speedway? How do you maintain that energy she generated?

If this were done the right way or with a good driver then it would be fine but this has been forced. IMO you need to conquer each level or series and then advance. The way it has been done is fools gold.

The attention, the new fans, the energy for the sport are great but only if they can be sustained and being lapped 8 times at Vegas and qualifying 41st at Bristol will not sustain it.

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The attention, the new fans, the energy for the sport are great but only if they can be sustained and being lapped 8 times at Vegas and qualifying 41st at Bristol will not sustain it.


Alright, maybe I just have skewed perspective so I'll say this and then I'm done with this topic. There's no point.

But, I used to watch the Indy 500 every year growing up and that was it. I never watched NASCAR and was annoyed when I'd see it on TV taking up space. I began watching NASCAR because I had a new HDTV and this was one of the few sporting events on TV that was in HD and it looked awesome in HD.

Is that a stupid reason to start watching NASCAR? Yes. But, I got hooked and have been watching for over a decade almost every week, listening to NASCAR radio, watching SPEED-TV, etc.

I don't really care why somebody starts to watch but if you even keep 1/10 of the people that start, and she has gotten more eyes to start watching than anything I can recently remember, then the sport is better off because nobody was getting anybody new to watch.

I have never said she was a great driver. I hoped....hoped...that she could be competitive enough to remain in the mix because I think it would be good for the sport. I see no point in rooting against her. Many drivers have come without working their way up through NASCAR circuits. Some have made it and some haven't. She isn't the first and won't be the last.

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BTW, this is the same reason that I started the NASCAR contest - because I want to give new fans a reason to want to watch.

So, at least you could say I'm consistent.

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Well, here's hoping you guys are all right and she is soon kicked out of the sport.

I'm tired of all this relevance.



How do you feel about your newest picture:


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Probably more like this -

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
The attention, the new fans, the energy for the sport are great but only if they can be sustained and being lapped 8 times at Vegas and qualifying 41st at Bristol will not sustain it.


Alright, maybe I just have skewed perspective so I'll say this and then I'm done with this topic. There's no point.

But, I used to watch the Indy 500 every year growing up and that was it. I never watched NASCAR and was annoyed when I'd see it on TV taking up space. I began watching NASCAR because I had a new HDTV and this was one of the few sporting events on TV that was in HD and it looked awesome in HD.

Is that a stupid reason to start watching NASCAR? Yes. But, I got hooked and have been watching for over a decade almost every week, listening to NASCAR radio, watching SPEED-TV, etc.

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I wanted a racing game for my N64 so I got Nascar 99. I knew nothing about anyone and learned all the drivers from that game and started watching.

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Commercial Breakdown of the 2013 Food City 500: For those of you NASCAR fans that like stats and love to hate commercials, here is the breakdown for Sunday's race. Began recording the times at the Invocation of the race at 12:56 PM, and stopped at the waving of the checkered flag at 4:07 PM (all times are EST). Fox was the broadcast team for this event.


Total number of commercials: 107
Total number of companies or entities advertised: 57
Number of traditional commercials (not split-screen): 101
Total number of companies or entities advertised: 55
Number of 'Side-by-Side' commercials during race broadcast (split-screen): 6
Total number of companies or entities advertised: 7
Number of times Fox utilized 'Side-by-Side' commercials during this broadcast: 2
Total number of brief promos of products/services during the race broadcast: 32
Total amount of time these brief promos take during broadcast: app. 4 min. 45 sec.
Start time to record race/commercial periods: 12:56 PM
End time to record race/commercial periods: 4:07 PM
Total minutes of complete race broadcast: 191
Minutes of race broadcast: 138
Minutes of traditional commercials (not split-screen): 53
Minutes of 'Side-by-Side' commercials (split-screen): 4
Number of missed restarts: 0
Number of 'mystery cautions' (debris not shown):
Total race brdcst time 138 Total comm. brdcst time 53

Got a little bit of SHARK in you with this post.

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I watched in the late 70s, early 80s. Loved Richard Petty. Cale Yarborough, Benny Parsons, Ricky Rudd. It was a different time. Scary actually to think about it. Didn't see a race for like 20 years until a few years ago.

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I hope there is a Sunday coming soon where I can join in on the race coverage, but I don't see it happening any time soon. :(

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I hope there is a Sunday coming soon where I can join in on the race coverage, but I don't see it happening any time soon. :(

You'll always be welcome in the 3am Monsoon Racelog Coverage of Formula 1 sir. :lol:

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I hope there is a Sunday coming soon where I can join in on the race coverage, but I don't see it happening any time soon. :(

You'll always be welcome in the 3am Monsoon Racelog Coverage of Formula 1 sir. :lol:

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I read thru that thread last night too. :oops:

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I thought a new avatar was in order.

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I thought a new avatar was in order.

Ahem. :oops:

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Actually, it makes my username/avatar synergy funny in light of recent events... :lol:

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Nice avatar of ol 5 laps down.

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Nice avatar of ol 5 laps down.

HATER!!!!!

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Nice avatar of ol 5 laps down.


You mean nice avatar of Better than JPM.

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Nice avatar of ol 5 laps down.


Hey, it takes a real man to put up a twinkling, burrito-looking avatar of a marginal driver on the testosterone-rampant playpen of the CSFMB. It's probably similar to choosing a Ke$ha album with a block of cheese on her head. :wink:

Well, that-- and a complete lack of self-awareness or credible racing thoughts. :thumright:

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The Nascar gods have spoken, I may have to change my avatar. And my pants.


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Ike, is really not going to like this.

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Nice avatar of ol 5 laps down.


You mean nice avatar of Better than JPM.


I realize that you are trolling & baiting, but what the hell...

You might want to check JPM's career stats compared to sweetcheeks.

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Nice avatar of ol 5 laps down.


You mean nice avatar of Better than JPM.


I realize that you are trolling & baiting, but what the hell...

You might want to check JPM's career stats compared to sweetcheeks.


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Here's Danica consoling JPM after yesterday's race:


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NASCAR attendance problems...

http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2012/3/19/2884086/bristol-attendance-nascar-2012

By Jeff Gluck on Mar 19 2012, 9:56a  @jeff_gluck
The stands at Sunday's Bristol race were only half-full at best. So what's behind the decline in fan interest? Here's our theory.

Hours after Sunday's Bristol Motor Speedway race, Jeff Gordon couldn't shake the startling sight of empty seats from his mind.

The Colosseum of NASCAR, once a must-have ticket that resulted in 55 consecutive sellouts from 1982-2009, was half-full at best during the Food City 500. NASCAR officially estimated the attendance at 102,000 – down 18,000 from last year's spring race – but there were far fewer than that.

And Gordon wanted to know why.

Gordon received a flood of tweets back from his 182,000 followers, and the responses focused heavily on two issues: The struggling economy and the track's 2007 reconfiguration that neutered the once-rough racing.

In reality, it's not one or the other. Rather, those two factors are intertwined and have created a precipitous drop that may never be reversed as long as the half-mile oval remains in its current format.

When the economy was good, hardcore race fans went to a handful of races each year. They'd pick a couple tracks close to them and then maybe take a trip to a must-visit venue like Daytona, Talladega or Bristol.

Things went bad, though, and fans had to make tough choices. Many still found room in the budget to attend a race, but cut back to one or two per season – and the more expensive trips became a logical target for elimination.

Bristol had two things working against it that made the 160,000-seat track easier to skip than others.

First of all, it's one of the most costly races on the circuit – not for tickets, necessarily, but for travel. Fans who want to spend less than $150 per night on hotels must stay in places like Asheville, N.C. and endure an hour-and-a-half drive each way to the track.

Plus, with Bristol's relatively remote location, the majority of fans travel a long distance to get to the region in the first place. With gas prices nearing $4 per gallon, how many people are really willing to make those financial sacrifices? And even if fans do make one Bristol trip, wouldn't they prefer to attend the famous night race over the spring race?

Second, Bristol is no longer a must-attend event. When the track had one groove and drivers had to bump their way past competitors to gain track position, the Bristol race was like watching a NASCAR bullfight.

Fans came to see cars rubbing fenders and tempers and crashes, and the drama required everyone to be glued to their seats to see what would happen next. If you liked NASCAR, you had to be there; if you weren't there, you were jealous of those who scored a coveted ticket.

Not anymore. Bristol now has side-by-side racing, but it also has long, green-flag runs and few crashes. The official race report listed just one multi-car crash in Sunday's race.

That's not the Bristol racing most fans really want, but many people in the industry are still having trouble accepting it.

The purists continue to talk about "real racing" and try to guilt those of us who enjoyed the old Bristol drama into feeling bad about it. Their oft-repeated stance is if fans can't find a way to enjoy the new Bristol racing – the cleaner, tamer kind – then they're not real NASCAR fans.

I disagree. The purists are missing a key point: "Real racing" occurs at nearly every other track in every other week. The places fans want to see side-by-side excitement is at 1.5-mile intermediate tracks, not a half-mile short track where drivers should have to root and gouge for every position.

Bristol was once a must-see because it was unique. But since the reconfiguration, the racing seems to be about the same as at every other track.

So when race fans take a hard look at their travel and entertainment budgets, the once-great Bristol has become an easy one to skip.

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Here's Danica consoling JPM after yesterday's race:


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As I viewed I wondered exactly that. Why is that place empty?

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Honestly I thinkg the tv has affected sports as much as anything, it is awfully nice to watch HD tv in the confines of your own house with all of the telecast and the information they are able to provide.

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Bristol sold out 55 consecutive races up until 2010. Its amazing how NASCAR has gone from being the hottest ticket in sports just a few years ago, to half empty race tracks. The racing has been terrible the last 2 years & people aren't willing to pay $75 to see lousy racing. NASCAR attendance is down, & the only way to fix it is to lower ticket prices. NASCAR thought Danny would save the sport. They were wrong. NASCAR fans don't buy into gimmicks like Sweetcheeks.

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