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The more, if any, success she has the more clothes she will wear. The worse she does the more likely it is she will take it all off at some point in time. Get your head in the game son.

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The Nationwide series has got to be in serious trouble. It looked like there were maybe 10K fans in the stands at Chicagoland Speedway today. Worse even than previous Nationwide races this year. I remember when the Busch series races were all nearly sold out. Now, no one cares.

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The Nationwide series has got to be in serious trouble. It looked like there were maybe 10K fans in the stands at Chicagoland Speedway today. Worse even than previous Nationwide races this year. I remember when the Busch series races were all nearly sold out. Now, no one cares.


A weekend of only truck and nationwide racing at a cookie cutter track is never going to be good unless the track provides for a phenomenal race which Chicago does not.

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The Nationwide series has got to be in serious trouble. It looked like there were maybe 10K fans in the stands at Chicagoland Speedway today. Worse even than previous Nationwide races this year. I remember when the Busch series races were all nearly sold out. Now, no one cares.


A weekend of only truck and nationwide racing at a cookie cutter track is never going to be good unless the track provides for a phenomenal race which Chicago does not.


Attendance has been lousy at the Nationwide races when there is a Sprint Cup race the next day too. Hell, the Sprint Cup races look 30 - 40% vacant too. Even the Charlotte race at Lowes Motor Speedway was littered with empty seats. I haven't looked up the attendance numbers & don't know if they are published, but I have never seen so many empty seats in both series.

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The Nationwide series has got to be in serious trouble. It looked like there were maybe 10K fans in the stands at Chicagoland Speedway today. Worse even than previous Nationwide races this year. I remember when the Busch series races were all nearly sold out. Now, no one cares.


A weekend of only truck and nationwide racing at a cookie cutter track is never going to be good unless the track provides for a phenomenal race which Chicago does not.


Attendance has been lousy at the Nationwide races when there is a Sprint Cup race the next day too. Hell, the Sprint Cup races look 30 - 40% vacant too. Even the Charlotte race at Lowes Motor Speedway was littered with empty seats. I haven't looked up the attendance numbers & don't know if they are published, but I have never seen so many empty seats in both series.


I will say this...I know I can get tickets to the Bristol night race which is probably the closest race to where I live and that is just plain wrong. There is no reason that track should not be sold out well in advance.

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Pretty good article about the fall in NASCAR attendance. Apparently some people think they have made the sport too safe & the drastic reduction in yellow flags is partly to blame.

NASCAR looks for answers to declining attendance
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Wed, May 2nd 2012 2:14 pm EDT

With dwindling attendance and TV ratings across the board for NASCAR's most popular series, fans, drivers, NASCAR officials, and media members are beginning to speculate whether a decline in cautions is causing a loss of interest in the sport. Saturday's race at Richmond International Raceway was the third consecutive Sprint Cup Series race to run with long stretches of green-flag racing and no multi-car wrecks.

In response to declining ticket sales and in an attempt to give fans what they want, Bruton Smith, chairman of Speedway Motorsports Inc. recently announced changes to Bristol Motor Speedway that will hopefully lead to less side-by-side racing and more passing. ESPN.com reported that after the 2007 reconfiguration of "The World's Fastest Half Mile," several fans complained about the lack of bumping on the track. This time around, changes will include grinding the upper groove in the corners, rather than tearing up the progressive banking as Smith had originally alluded to in his announcement after the March 18 race.

According to ESPN.com, while many drivers are happy with the current conditions at Bristol, it is obvious that fans are pleased with Smith's decision as ticket sales have tripled since the changes were announced. Only half of the 160,000 seats were full for the March Sprint Cup race and according to the Asheville Citizen-Times, attendance was at 58,000 less than capacity.

Fans, drivers, and NASCAR officials can argue all day about what constitutes good racing and what should be done to make both the drivers and fans happy. There is no denying that most fans attend a race to see a good wreck, but with changes constantly made to the cars and the rules, the wild crashes that once made the sport popular are becoming few and far between.

"I don’t think it's right to say that we need wrecks," said NASCAR driver Carl Edwards in a statement to the Associated Press, explaining that wrecks are not necessary for good racing. "That's just a messed-up thing to say. I think we need good racing, and I think if you've got guys that are able to race close together and guys that are able to come through the field because their car is better and they can actually pass people, you are going to get excitement."

According to SportingNews, caution flags are down by 50 percent this season and over the past three Sprint Cup races, there have been a total of 10 cautions, with seven of the cautions called for debris. NASCAR has been criticized in the past for throwing phantom caution flags, or yellow flags for nonexistent debris, as a way of bunching up the field to create more excitement.

Saturday's race at Richmond is an example of how the entire outcome of a race can be changed by throwing a late caution flag. With just 13 laps remaining, NASCAR threw a yellow flag for debris, which caused Tony Stewart to lose the lead to Kyle Busch on pit road and handover a possible victory, leaving Stewart to wonder about the legitimacy of the caution flag.

"When the caution is for a plastic bottle on the backstretch, it's hard to feel good about losing that one," Stewart said following the controversial finish.

According to SportingNews, it is imperative for NASCAR to figure out what has led to the decline in pack racing and natural cautions in order to eliminate the need to call controversial yellow flags.

If the reason for lower attendance and TV ratings really is a loss of excitement and interest in the sport, then Smith has the right idea by making changes to tracks like Bristol where more and more seats are left empty on race day.

In addition to making changes to the track, ESPN.com reported that Smith has also spoken with Goodyear about using softer tires for the August race, which will wear easier, creating a larger variance of speed and more competition among the field.

Whatever the reason for the recent lack of wrecks, the drivers have definitely recognized the change and several had offered up their thoughts on the cause. Driver Brad Keselowski points to another factor in the recent lack of cautions. "Aerodynamics are taking over the sport and we can't get close enough to each other to wreck each other," said Keselowski in a recent USA Today article. "That's the reality of it. When you can't get close to someone because aerodynamic effects of the cars, the potential to wreck is a lot less no matter what the situation."

With the new points system in place, winning races is just as important as being consistent, and according to USA Today, champion Kevin Harvick believes this has caused drivers to race more cautiously. "Everyone is trying to win races, so you need as few enemies as possible at this point," Harvick said.

While the lack of wrecks has likely had some effect on attendance, the struggling economy has also put a damper on overall ticket sales with many fans unable to afford the high ticket prices and cost of travel.

Jack Ingram, a long-time racer told the Asheville Citizen-Times, that the way for the sport to thrive is to return to its roots and agrees that close racing is what fans come to see. "They ruined that Atlanta track, expanding it to 175,000 seats," Ingram said. "No way they are ever going to sell that many tickets. Let's get back to good, close racing. You build a three-quarter-mile track and let them race, and the people will come watch that."

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Ma, this sucks! When is somebody gonna die??

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Ma, this sucks! When is somebody gonna die??


The racing action certainly isnt as good as it used to be. I hate the 1.5 mile tri oval tracks, & the superspeedways for that matter. The best racing is on tracks 1 mile or less. I love Iowa Speedway, Richmond, & Bristol.

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I agree. The shorter tracks make for much more intense racing.

Just had to laugh at people upset at NASCAR for being safe.

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The good news is I paid $40 for two tickets that were $150 face value.

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Way to cause that wreck for absolutely no reason.

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NASCAR attendance & TV ratings are both down huge. Apparently Danny isn't the savior after all.

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NASCAR attendance & TV ratings are both down huge. Apparently Danny isn't the savior after all.


I have no idea if this is true but I'll take your word for it.

So, is your feeling that ratings would be better if she wasn't there?

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Her spotter is horrible. Everything he told her in the JJ crash was the opposite of what she should have done.

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Guess it wasn't tony sr's fault but he got fired anyways. Way to destroy another car.

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Where oh where have all of the Danny supporters gone? Scorehead told you long ago that sweet cheeks would be a failure.

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hey, i was the first one to have faith in danica to be good for nothing but blowjobs

nascar should get turn all but 2 super speedways into short tracks. leave talledega and daytona. everything else is short track and a couple road course. nobody likes to watch road or super speedway racing, but it does add flavor sometimes. short tracks are where its at, because thats where drivers can be drivers.

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She cannot be considered a failure until March 2014.

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She cannot be considered a failure until March 2014.


I'm pretty certain that her race stats scream failure. Her stock car career has gone worse than even I imagined.

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I'm pretty certain that her race stats scream failure. Her stock car career has gone worse than even I imagined.


She's still smokin' hot. Don't be so gay.


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if danica fatrick played jay cutler in a game of football, who would win?

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That was probably the worst thing I've seen Danica do in any race in either league. Terrible.

And Cassill's response on the radio was pretty good.

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Earlier in the race, Cassell bumped into Danny while running side by side. This happens frequently in every race. So later, she bumps into Cassells left rear trying to send a message or spin him out, and she ends up in the wall and out of the race, while Cassell is just fine. Zippy balled her out on her car radio right after the incident, telling her "that wasnt very smart".
I predicted a disaster for Danny in NASCAR, & that is exactly what she has been.

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Zippy balled her out on her car radio right after the incident, telling her "that wasnt very smart".

Bawled? Not balled for sure. Bitched, maybe?

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She is going to be SOL when Go Daddy drops her.

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I'd be more worried about Go Daddy than Danica. Maybe Mabelline can sponsor her, with a special "I crashed so bad they had to stop the race." Red Flag lipstick.

http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2012/10/ ... video-2012
Patrick, Cassill differ on reason for wreck: Danica Patrick vowed to stand up for herself when the time was right, and she deemed Sunday's NASCAR race at Kansas Speedway to be that time. Patrick, in her eighth Sprint Cup Series race, spun Landon Cassill around the midway point of the Hollywood Casino 400 as frustration over what she said were multiple incidents with the BK Racing driver boiled over. "He got into me on the front straight and said I was just in the way," Patrick said. "That's really no good reason to hit me. If it's one time, I can imagine it's frustration, but it's been quite a few times with him. At some point I have to stand up for myself so this doesn't happen with other people. I chose today."

Cassill, though, told SB Nation he didn't slam into Patrick because she was in the way - he moved the #10 car because
Patrick was "driving like a maniac making it three-wide on a restart" when others were "staying cool to keep from wrecking." While the leaders were wrecking at the front of the field, Cassill said he and other drivers racing around the back were "biding our time." Patrick made it three-wide but didn't pass him - a move which irked Cassill. "If you're going to make it three-wide and pass somebody, you've got to back it up," he said by phone after the race. "But she didn't. She goes under there, and then she's sliding up the racetrack and then jacks up the field, gets in the way. Then she lets two cars go by, and when I get underneath her, she crowds me. So I was like, 'No! I've been faster than you all day,' so I was going to move her. And I did. I didn't hit her because she was in my way and I wanted to pick on her, I hit her because she was driving like an idiot for 30th."

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Cassill said he and other drivers racing around the back were "biding our time."


:lol: Look at this guy.

No Cassill, you were not bidding your time. You were around the back because you suck as a driver!

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The disappointment in the voice of her radio guy was a nice touch too. "easy, easy, stay off the wall" *crunch* *sigh*


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I'd be more worried about Go Daddy than Danica. Maybe Mabelline can sponsor her, with a special "I crashed so bad they had to stop the race." Red Flag lipstick.

http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2012/10/ ... video-2012
Patrick, Cassill differ on reason for wreck: Danica Patrick vowed to stand up for herself when the time was right, and she deemed Sunday's NASCAR race at Kansas Speedway to be that time. Patrick, in her eighth Sprint Cup Series race, spun Landon Cassill around the midway point of the Hollywood Casino 400 as frustration over what she said were multiple incidents with the BK Racing driver boiled over. "He got into me on the front straight and said I was just in the way," Patrick said. "That's really no good reason to hit me. If it's one time, I can imagine it's frustration, but it's been quite a few times with him. At some point I have to stand up for myself so this doesn't happen with other people. I chose today."

Cassill, though, told SB Nation he didn't slam into Patrick because she was in the way - he moved the #10 car because
Patrick was "driving like a maniac making it three-wide on a restart" when others were "staying cool to keep from wrecking." While the leaders were wrecking at the front of the field, Cassill said he and other drivers racing around the back were "biding our time." Patrick made it three-wide but didn't pass him - a move which irked Cassill. "If you're going to make it three-wide and pass somebody, you've got to back it up," he said by phone after the race. "But she didn't. She goes under there, and then she's sliding up the racetrack and then jacks up the field, gets in the way. Then she lets two cars go by, and when I get underneath her, she crowds me. So I was like, 'No! I've been faster than you all day,' so I was going to move her. And I did. I didn't hit her because she was in my way and I wanted to pick on her, I hit her because she was driving like an idiot for 30th."


Cassill is 100% correct.

This sport is too big for Sweetcheeks. No driver wants to run with her because she cant handle a stock car, which is very different & much more difficult to handle than an Indy car. Eventually, talent matters. She has 1 or 2 more years of this shit show before it all comes crashing down.
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I'd be more worried about Go Daddy than Danica. Maybe Mabelline can sponsor her, with a special "I crashed so bad they had to stop the race." Red Flag lipstick.

http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2012/10/ ... video-2012
Patrick, Cassill differ on reason for wreck: Danica Patrick vowed to stand up for herself when the time was right, and she deemed Sunday's NASCAR race at Kansas Speedway to be that time. Patrick, in her eighth Sprint Cup Series race, spun Landon Cassill around the midway point of the Hollywood Casino 400 as frustration over what she said were multiple incidents with the BK Racing driver boiled over. "He got into me on the front straight and said I was just in the way," Patrick said. "That's really no good reason to hit me. If it's one time, I can imagine it's frustration, but it's been quite a few times with him. At some point I have to stand up for myself so this doesn't happen with other people. I chose today."

Cassill, though, told SB Nation he didn't slam into Patrick because she was in the way - he moved the #10 car because
Patrick was "driving like a maniac making it three-wide on a restart" when others were "staying cool to keep from wrecking." While the leaders were wrecking at the front of the field, Cassill said he and other drivers racing around the back were "biding our time." Patrick made it three-wide but didn't pass him - a move which irked Cassill. "If you're going to make it three-wide and pass somebody, you've got to back it up," he said by phone after the race. "But she didn't. She goes under there, and then she's sliding up the racetrack and then jacks up the field, gets in the way. Then she lets two cars go by, and when I get underneath her, she crowds me. So I was like, 'No! I've been faster than you all day,' so I was going to move her. And I did. I didn't hit her because she was in my way and I wanted to pick on her, I hit her because she was driving like an idiot for 30th."


Cassill is 100% correct.

This sport is too big for Sweetcheeks. No driver wants to run with her because she cant handle a stock car, which is very different & much more difficult to handle than an Indy car. Eventually, talent matters. She has 1 or 2 more years of this shit show before it call comes crashing down.
Maybe then we'll see her in Playboy!

I was right. Danica Patrick is finding out first hand how difficult it really is making the transition from IRL to NASCAR. I can't say I'm surprised she's been terrible, especially in the Sprint Cup Series.


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