Nas wrote:
Johnny Chimpo wrote:
I missed Gary somehow. How did he fare against Mike's "If I argue my point progressively louder it makes it more true" argument tactic?
3 and 4 year-olds don't belong at a game if they can't behave themselves. If Mike just would have said that, there'd be no argument. Instead he brings up this inane line of reasoning that if someone won't remember the game when they are older, they don't belong there. What about how the subconscious shapes us?
And what the hell is an "adelt"?
I disagree with all of this. I've taken my kids to games and they have a lot of fun. Should I not give my kids birthday parties since they won't remember them either? It's stupid. A parent should be able to take their kids anywhere they want.
Nas, maybe I wasn't clear. I disagree completely with Mike's reasoning that just because the child won't remember the game as he gets older he shouldn't be taken to the game. That is faulty reasoning. There are many things that happened to all of us - good and bad - that we don't have conscious memory of but that shape who we are. It's very important for parents to bond with their kids, and if that happens at a ball game, great. Also, there is something to be said for the contemporaneous enjoyment of the moment without consideration of memories.
The point I tried to make, and obviously failed, is that all parents have to make a judgment as to when their children will be able to sit through a game and act appropriately. I wasn't trying to tell anyone what age that is. From my own experience, we took my first boy to the Sox game when he was 4. We got through about 4 innings before he got bored (and full of $1.00 hot dogs). He got antsy and rather than bother those around us, we left. When he was 6, we went to a Bulls game. He was older and there was more going on so he made it through the whole game.