His wife waited for him to come back all fucked up from the Hanoi Hilton and then he dumped her because she was disfigured in a car wreck. He talked non-stop about how terrible Obamacare was for years and when he had a chance to end it, he preferred to stick it up Trump's ass rather than supposedly help America. He was the poster boy for privilege. Bad guy.

I didn't know you were upset. I'm not.

But I certainly see a significant difference between the anti-war left and a guy who had his daddy buy his way out of the draft. Certainly Trump himself does, too, which is why he maintains the fiction that a medical condition prevented him from serving in Vietnam.

The point was to bring the war to a halt, which the anti-war movement succeeded in doing.

Then we shouldn't be upset about anyone doing whatever they could to avoid going, right?

Nah, it’s not. I have a strong dislike for most politicians but McCain earned at the very least the right to be a douchebag. And I’d strongly disagree that he’s any worse than any other career politician. I also have little doubt that a single man or woman on this board would have gone what he went through without tapping out given the choice. This is all cynical political/somewhat-partisan bullshit as per usual here. As a politician sure he was as cynical and useless as the rest of the lot but at least he paid his dues. I have very little patience for anyone on here criticizing him while not condemning Trump as a significantly worse person and politician. Do better JORR!

The issue is someone choosing not to go mocking the service of someone who did choose to go.

It becomes harder by the day to believe you aren't a big Trump supporter. Trump was clearly the bad guy in their feud even if McCain in his career was far from perfect.

His wife waited for him to come back all fucked up from the Hanoi Hilton and then he dumped her because she was disfigured in a car wreck. He talked non-stop about how terrible Obamacare was for years and when he had a chance to end it, he preferred to stick it up Trump's ass rather than supposedly help America. He was the poster boy for privilege. Bad guy.

But I certainly see a significant difference between the anti-war left and a guy who had his daddy buy his way out of the draft. Certainly Trump himself does, too, which is why he maintains the fiction that a medical condition prevented him from serving in Vietnam.

I have plenty of respect for those who serve...rich or poor. Regardless...rich kids will be fine.

You said McCain had special rules in regards to Trump mocking his service though.

You said McCain had special rules in regards to Trump mocking his service though.