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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:39 pm 
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Score 1 for North in verbal scuffle
Cubs' Dempster made false allegations against radio host

Published May 24, 2006

Mike North deserved to get slammed when he imitated a dying Terri Schiavo. And the Score's morning man often sounds like a Neanderthal when he delves into politics.

But don't blame North for causing the latest Cubs-White Sox controversy, the one that involves Ryan Dempster, Ozzie Guillen's children and Joey Cora's teeth.

North actually is innocent.

"Hard to believe, isn't it?" he said Tuesday during an interview.

Dempster lit into North on Monday, saying he no longer would make weekly appearances on North's radio show because the host "misquoted me three times."

North fired back Tuesday morning, telling his morning listeners Dempster had not been truthful in his accusations.

Later North was more blunt: "Hey, he was lying. If he doesn't want to come on [the show] again, that's fine with me. But don't be a B.S. artist. We have it on tape here, that's the bottom line."

By late Tuesday afternoon, peace and love had prevailed. After North called the Cubs closer to seek an explanation, a conciliatory Dempster said he would continue his weekly appearances, for which he's paid $150 per show. (Dempster says he donates the money to charity.)

"He apologized to me," North said. "He said he had been bombarded with information, some of which was wrong."

North, in turn, apologized for a misleading news update the Score ran Monday. More on that later.

On Monday, Dempster said North had misquoted him on three topics: 1) The Cora biting allegation; 2) That Cora should not have been on the field; 3) That Guillen's sons were on the field.

The issue of Guillen's sons never came up in the interview. Meanwhile, Dempster clearly did accuse Cora of failing to play peacemaker. And Dempster, assuming he heard the question correctly, confirmed North's belief that Cora, the Sox's third-base coach, had bitten someone during the fracas.

North: "We're hearing that Joey Cora might have bit somebody. I mean, he's a coach, I don't know …"

Dempster: "Yeah, I thought that was one the most bush things I've ever seen. You're on the other side of the white lines now because you can't play anymore, so don't come swinging in fists. Just break the fight up. Don't act like you're a player any more because you're not. If you're going to do that, you're going to get yourself hurt one day.

North: "So Joey Cora, as a coach, in your opinion, definitely went over the line."

Dempster: "Oh, absolutely. Harold Baines even grabbed him and said: 'Hey, we're coaches. We break this up' and pulled him off."

Later North says: "I heard he bit, what, [John] Mabry? There were like eight-nine guys on Mabry."

Dempster: "Yeah, I don't really know what happened. I don't know why they decided to gang-tackle Mabry. Brian Anderson thought it was a melee. So 'let's just start a fight with whoever's next to me.' All 'Mabes' is trying to do is break that up and get [Michael] Barrett out of there and the next thing you know he's getting gang-tackled."

Here's where the Score did err: Based on the information he was given, update anchor George Ofman reported Monday that Dempster had "expressed dismay and anger that Joey Cora not only got into the fray Saturday, but that he also bit Jacque Jones."

Was that entirely accurate? No. But it's not as if North wrote the news update.

On top of blaming North, Dempster said the incident was typical of sports radio, where controversy sells.

"Keep it on the radio and talk about it and let it brew up," he said. "It's good for the ratings. Maybe some advertising companies will pay more money."

WSCR-AM 670 program director Mitch Rosen acknowledged "it's great when you see the station mentioned in the sports pages," but doubted one incident would make a difference in the ratings.

North belittled Dempster's accusation: "Hey, [the media] didn't start the fight. It's not like we said: 'Hey can you get into a fight so we can talk about it?'

"Look, Dempster had a bad week. What I don't like is that he threw me under the bus. I can take it, but don't act like you're Mr. Innocent."

North might sound like he's whining, but he's actually one of the few Score hosts with thick enough skin to take criticism as well as dish it out.

Consider this: North took a beating in the winter ratings, losing to WMVP-AM 1000's syndicated tandem of Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic.

"Mike and Mike" earned a 3.6 rating among adult men compared to North's 2.8. And an April "trend" rating was only slightly more encouraging for the Score: "Mike and Mike" beat North 3.6 to 3.0. The addition of the White Sox has not given North the bump he expected, and he knows it.

"I've always discussed athletes who aren't earning their money," North said. "Considering what I'm making ($1.5 million per year), I should be hitting .315 with 30 homers and 125 RBIs. Instead I'm hitting .280 with about 13 homers and about 55 RBIs.

"I have no shot at making the all-star team. But I've been in the majors, the morning drive, for less than two years."

North's tepid ratings frustrate him, even though he believes Arbitron's system for estimating listenership is flawed. Though details are kept under wraps, insiders say the company gives diaries to 7,000-8,000 Chicagoans each month and asks them to report on their listening habits.

"I'm a polarizing guy," North said. "There may be someone who listens to me but says: '[Forget him.] I'm not going to put him down.'

"Look, I went and got the money; they didn't have to give it to me. I have two years left on my deal. If they want to go in another direction after that, fine. If they want to re-sign me, that's great too. But whatever happens I'll know I've given it everything I've got."

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Who's going to crap this on Thursday?:

Instead I'm hitting .280 with about 13 homers and about 55 RBIs

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I agreed Oz, that seemed pretty high to me as well. I think it looks a lot more like .096 2 hrs and 13 rbi in 112 games.


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EG, great minds think alike - we posted Teddy's column one minute apart. Anyways, see my Fuck you, North! thread for comments on his batting average.


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C_Howitt_Fealz wrote:
EG, great minds think alike - we posted Teddy's column one minute apart. Anyways, see my DOPE you, North! thread for comments on his batting average.


Yeah, I did see that. Good to see I wasnt the only one about to fall out of my chair with his analogy.


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Hey North (Valentin), How many errors?

Clinton's impeachment
Fritzy's interpretation of Passover



Please help me with more, it's not like I listen to this shitty show.

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EG Greg wrote:
From: www.chicagotribune.com

North's tepid ratings frustrate him, even though he believes Arbitron's system for estimating listenership is flawed. Though details are kept under wraps, insiders say the company gives diaries to 7,000-8,000 Chicagoans each month and asks them to report on their listening habits.

"I'm a polarizing guy," North said. "There may be someone who listens to me but says: '[Forget him.] I'm not going to put him down.'

"Look, I went and got the money; they didn't have to give it to me. I have two years left on my deal. If they want to go in another direction after that, fine. If they want to re-sign me, that's great too. But whatever happens I'll know I've given it everything I've got."




How pathetic!!!!! Blaming the ratings books, I know the books are not perfect but he acts like thousands of people don't put him in their logs everyday, I have never heard a host come up with a conspiriacy theory for his undeniably bad 2.8 and getting his ass kicked by a couple East coasters. Pete Mcmurray never came up with bullshit theories.

And the last paragraph sounds like a defeated man


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If the books are flawed then they are flawed for everybody. So I guess its just a random coincidence that "Mike and Mike" luckily get the better of the flawed system every god damn time. Maybe they are beating him by more.

Yeah Pappy guys filling out those diaries are out to get you. What a complete moron Pappy is. I think he actually beleives his bull shit.


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Who's going to crap this on Thursday?:

Instead I'm hitting .280 with about 13 homers and about 55 RBIs


I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought he was overestimating himself...geez Pappy. Someone better crap him on Thursday for this one!


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His latest excuse for his poor ratings almost leaves me speechless. He's "polarizing", so people who actually listen don't write him in their ratings books??!! My god, he's finally flipped out and become delusional. He just refuses to face the fact that his ratings suck because his show sucks and no one wants to listen.


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Hey, he didn't have a billboard during that ratings period!!!

BTW, North brought up Ozzie's kids on the field, but it was after the interview.


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EG Greg wrote:
WSCR-AM 670 program director Mitch Rosen acknowledged "it's great when you see the station mentioned in the sports pages," but doubted one incident would make a difference in the ratings.



You guys are missing the best part of this interview. I figured this would be his take on it.


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It just shows how clueless Mitch really is.


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Coach Crapowski wrote:
The only way the buzz will affect the ratings is if the shows are informative and entertaining.


You mean like the endless debate I happened to catch this morning between Mike and Anne over whether or not a particular country song should be classified as a ballad or not? It was informative because it shows what a piece of crap this show is and it was entertaining because I kept thinking if he keeps putting crap like this on the air, he may soon be gone (yeah, I know, wishful thinking).

Oh, and by the way, a news flash: Fred took Mike's side in the "debate."


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He's getting absolutely killed by Mike and Mike. Don't worry, he has the lists of excuses ready to go.


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