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http://www.profootballweekly.com/2013/0 ... ys-goodbye

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This is the one piece I’ve spent part of my childhood and my entire adult life working to avoid having to write. But as I’ve come to learn repeatedly over the 46 years or so during which that effort has been ongoing, often at a significant price, you can’t win ‘em all. So, in my final act as the voice of Pro Football Weekly, it is time to say goodbye. Pro Football Weekly, as we’ve all known it since the first issue rolled off the press in late August of 1967, is no more.


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 Post subject: Re: Pro Football Weekly
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I'm not a big Hub guy, but this is sad.

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I'm not a big Hub guy, but this is sad.

Its completely his own fault. I can't feel sorry. His absolute refusal to acknowledge the web allowed Florio to come in and take his gig.

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 Post subject: Re: Pro Football Weekly
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Kind of have to agree, UMN.

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 Post subject: Re: Pro Football Weekly
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Caused his own publications death.

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I'm not a big Hub guy, but this is sad.

Its completely his own fault. I can't feel sorry. His absolute refusal to acknowledge the web allowed Florio to come in and take his gig.


You're correct sir. I don't feel sorry for him.

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 Post subject: Re: Pro Football Weekly
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But for the many who lost their jobs, I'd be completely ambivalent. Hub was such a (McCaskey) company man for soooo long.

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Can't say I ever read his rag and certainly never bought it. That said, it is a bit sad and I feel for the guy. Its never a good day to see someone lose something they apparently worked on so hard for the better part of their life.

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It was the best for a long time and the fact is he ran a bad business. Not terrible, but his inability to adapt and grow, think creatively, blame others, etc cost him what should have been an empire.

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 Post subject: Re: Pro Football Weekly
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I never read the magazine, but I did enjoy the TV show.

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Will the TV show still be on?


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Will the TV show still be on?



I'm guessing it will. The greatest salesman in Chicago media history is behind that thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Pro Football Weekly
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I believe that PFW went belly up one time before.
I have a friend who had just signed up for and paid for a two week subscription and never got a single issue.
Shortly after, PFW started publishing again but didn't honor old subscriptions because of different owners.
I think Primedia then bought it and later, Hub bought it back.
Need a lawyer (or lawer) to figure this all out.

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 Post subject: Re: Pro Football Weekly
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I believe that PFW went belly up one time before.
I have a friend who had just signed up for and paid for a two week subscription and never got a single issue.
Shortly after, PFW started publishing again but didn't honor old subscriptions because of different owners.
I think Primedia then bought it and later, Hub bought it back.
Need a lawyer (or lawer) to figure this all out.


I believe it went through bankruptcy in '85 and didn't publish that year.

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 Post subject: Re: Pro Football Weekly
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Just another example of someone's ego getting in the way and ruining a business.

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 Post subject: Re: Pro Football Weekly
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Classic Hub response a few minutes ago.
The subject of Mike Florio is brought to Arkush. Initially, he has nothing bad to say about Florio -- then he parts by asking Mike to at least have a fact correct.
You could taste the bitterness in Hub's controversy, "they just comment on what other people write."
Also, he took a swipe at the younger generation "wanting their information for free" and slamming bloggers and others as basically non-journalists.
Funny, since a lot of Hub's thoughts on The Score are his OPINIONS or TAKE on an issue.

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Brian's Mojito wrote:
Classic Hub response a few minutes ago.
The subject of Mike Florio is brought to Arkush. Initially, he has nothing bad to say about Florio -- then he parts by asking Mike to at least have a fact correct.
You could taste the bitterness in Hub's controversy, "they just comment on what other people write."
Also, he took a swipe at the younger generation "wanting their information for free" and slamming bloggers and others as basically non-journalists.
Funny, since a lot of Hub's thoughts on The Score are his OPINIONS or TAKE on an issue.

Yeah I heard it too. Hub is clearly a bitter man. Must stem from the fact that all of this is his own fault and deep down he knows it but has to try to find guys like Florio to take it out on.

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Brian's Mojito wrote:
Classic Hub response a few minutes ago.
The subject of Mike Florio is brought to Arkush. Initially, he has nothing bad to say about Florio -- then he parts by asking Mike to at least have a fact correct.
You could taste the bitterness in Hub's controversy, "they just comment on what other people write."
Also, he took a swipe at the younger generation "wanting their information for free" and slamming bloggers and others as basically non-journalists.
Funny, since a lot of Hub's thoughts on The Score are his OPINIONS or TAKE on an issue.


Hub can't possibly believe that he is a journalist. And as far as opinions go, his are some of the worst in football history. #ChadHutchinsonisthestarter #KansasCityChiefsSuperBowl

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 Post subject: Re: Pro Football Weekly
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Hub was a finger guy: Florio, cheapskate younger generation.
Maybe a few less trips to the Score airwaves and more hours spent around his mahogany desk set coming up with a solution would've been the difference.
I do feel bad for all of the other employees who lost their jobs.

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 Post subject: Re: Pro Football Weekly
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Maybe I missed this, but I heard more "Don't worry about me, I'll be fine" then something truly touching about the employees who lost their jobs.

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I was also disappointed in Rosey, especially the I-like-you-but-others-don't mantra.
I'm always bothered my those who employ this discussion strategy.

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 Post subject: Re: Pro Football Weekly
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I blame B and B for some of this. They were at the forefront of the Hub bashing in the Jauron days, and it appears they have turtled when it comes to their 5 p.m. time slots with the one-time Bears guard dog.

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46-year run ends for Pro Football Weekly
Posted by Mike Florio on May 31, 2013, 10:43 PM EDT
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The handwriting has been on the wall for months, given the lack of handwriting or other new content appearing at the Pro Football Weekly website. Despite the controversial and headline-creating Geno Smith scouting report by Nolan Nawrocki, the worst-kept secret in media circles had been that PFW was in an apparent death spiral.

On Friday, editor Hub Arkush posted a farewell message on the publication’s website. A separate link revealed the cold, hard truth: assets of $143,000, and liabilities of $8.5 million.

“Over the last five years our majority owner and each of the minority partners invested a tremendous amount of money, time and effort to try to build a bridge for PFW from the rapidly deteriorating world of old media to the new, exploding market of digital media and glitzy, new products,” Arkush writes. “We built some truly great stuff that you all seemed to love, but try as we might, we couldn’t get enough of you to pay what it cost us to deliver it. There comes a time when there is just no more money to lose, and now we are forced to close the doors.”

While PFW could have, in our view, remained competitive in the world of new media — indeed, the publication’s “Way We Hear It” feature reflected Internet-style rumor mongering long before folks were mongering rumors on the Internet — the name itself epitomized old-media realities. “Weekly” would no longer cut it; news and analysis must be delivered in real-time via electronic means, not once per week in a publication that looked and felt more like a newspaper than a magazine.

At one point, PFW was an indispensable source of league-wide information and analysis to supplement local newspapers that focused on one team and national newspapers that provided only the most superficial information (but at least they did it in pretty colors). Put simply, times changed and PFW didn’t.

Every new-media publication should heed that warning. Times will continue to change. Those who don’t change with the times eventually will have a pile of liabilities that dwarf their assets, too
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I blame B and B for some of this.


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I blame B and B for some of this. They were at the forefront of the Hub bashing in the Jauron days, and it appears they have turtled when it comes to their 5 p.m. time slots with the one-time Bears guard dog.

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Brian's Mojito wrote:
I blame B and B for some of this. They were at the forefront of the Hub bashing in the Jauron days, and it appears they have turtled when it comes to their 5 p.m. time slots with the one-time Bears guard dog.

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What a prick.


Cat didn't get wet.

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46-year run ends for Pro Football Weekly
Posted by Mike Florio on May 31, 2013, 10:43 PM EDT
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While PFW could have, in our view, remained competitive in the world of new media — indeed, the publication’s “Way We Hear It” feature reflected Internet-style rumor mongering long before folks were mongering rumors on the Internet — the name itself epitomized old-media realities. “Weekly” would no longer cut it; news and analysis must be delivered in real-time via electronic means, not once per week in a publication that looked and felt more like a newspaper than a magazine.

At one point, PFW was an indispensable source of league-wide information and analysis to supplement local newspapers that focused on one team and national newspapers that provided only the most superficial information (but at least they did it in pretty colors). Put simply, times changed and PFW didn’t.

Every new-media publication should heed that warning. Times will continue to change. Those who don’t change with the times eventually will have a pile of liabilities that dwarf their assets, too
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Ouch. Seems like Florio doesn't mind pouring some serious salt in PFW's wounds. Is there any more to the Arkush-Florio thing other than them being competitors?

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