The Hawk wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
yeah, religion can be so preachy
Luckily, we can turn to Unitarianism.
You, ultimately, have to live with who you are, so you might as well proclaim it clearly and boldly. I think this was where Francis could be deficient. It's a tough balance to teach both "neither do I condemn you." and "Now go and sin no more". I'll thank anyone who takes on the task for his service.
Why is that so hard for you to balance?
because people take calling actions a sin as a condemnation
That was the beauty of Francis. Like Christ, he doesn't condemn. He didn't tell the woman specifically not to commit adultery. He didn't need to.
Catholic teaching is available and unequivocal.
Are you saying that the Catholic religion doesn't condemn sin, especially mortal sin? Please explain what Christ meant by "Go forth and SIN NO MORE?
The Catholic Church doesn't usually condemn people publicly.
The leave that up to you, and The Doctor of Style.
The Hawk wrote:
I responded to this post by Crest and by golly, it disappeared also among a couple of others. Could it be that someone only wants his opinion to be seen? Wonder why? I like a good debate on topical things. Seeing another's opinion and debating things make life interesting, does it not? Unfortunately your options get limited when part of the discussion gets removed.
I don't care for the cheap shot that Crest took at me and further pissed me off with the comment about condemning people. In a related post which also got erased, I told Crest that I have had a solid Catholic education and know that some of his statements regarding church doctrine was not true.
Seacrest wrote:
It was a statement of fact, not a cheap shot.
Below is a good example of it. There is not a single judgement in the post that is factually correct. You, and millions of others in the US should get a refund for the Catholic "education" that you received.
The Hawk wrote:
With Pope Francis' death, it will interesting what kind of Pope will replace him. Francis unfortunately became a leader who adopted a myriad of left winged and socialist or communist slants which clearly created a backlash among a huge portion of the Catholic church member ship who voiced their displeasure with dwindling attendance and contributions.
His blessing of homosexual marriage, half hearted punishment of pedophilia by priests, embrace of other woke causes like climate change mania, anti-Semitic criticism of Israel, and failure to criticize the Communist regime of China for its oppression and enslavement of the 2 million Muslim Ugars(sp?) in China. He also weakly failed to confront China on its oppression of Chinese Catholics and meekly caved to Xi in agreeing to let China approve any bishops to any Chinese Catholic Church position. He also went silent on the imprisonment of The Vatican appointment of the senior Cardinal of China. In addition he never spoke up about the disappearance of many Catholic clerics in China.
I am confident that Francis will get many plaudits from the woke members of the catholic faith but to me, Pope Francis was the worst prelate of my lifetime. Hopefully the person who replaces him can do a much better job. The Church needs some necessary healing and a moral compass sorely lacking.
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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