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312player wrote:
Legends is too strong a word...agreed...but both funnier that Williams .


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 Post subject: Re: Robin Williams
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312player wrote:
Legends is too strong a word...agreed...but both funnier that Williams .

Stand up and comedy in general is very much about timing and environment


A 1975 Robin Williams might be hilarious in 1975 but marginal in 1995.


Im not saying that's the case with your opinion, but I think if you saw him back then you might feel differently


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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Legends is too strong a word...agreed...but both funnier that Williams .


No.

Ya know what's funny about Ross? From what I can tell from podcasts (and these are his real life friends) he's one of the most sensitive sallies to ever come down the pipe. Cant take even a little ribbing. Thats hilarious.


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 Post subject: Re: Robin Williams
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Agreed pasta.... I never saw near the coverage when Carlin died....George was a true genius .


Carlin didn't commit suicide.


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Wow,that's beautiful.

Listen,Sory he chose to end his life but really...NEXT!


Have you had much experience with depression or suicide?


Spaulding,
In March,I lost a high paying job after 21.5 years and less than a week later,I died yet right now I could say I am not depressed. I DO believe depression is an illness that should be respected as such and treated with medication if needed. On the other hand,it is hard for me to understand for folks in Williams position. Everyone is wired differently though.

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You may be right...though I watch Richard Pryor or Don Rickles or Bill Hicks from that time period ...they are hilarious .

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In March,I lost a high paying job after 21.5 years and less than a week later,I died yet right now I could say I am not depressed. I DO believe depression is an illness that should be respected as such and treated with medication if needed. On the other hand,it is hard for me to understand for folks in Williams position. Everyone is wired differently though.


I can't wrap my head around depression. From the outside it really looks like a bullshit American medical circlejerk. I know that isnt true, I know there is medicine and science that say otherwise but I just have a hard time with it. I feel like it's become too much of a catch all for people to avoid dealing with emotions. Life is hard, unfair and a constant kick to the balls/Caller Bob, I've learned it and I try to accept it. Like Pasta said, some people are just wired differently I guess. I suppose I should just shut up and consider myself lucky. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Robin Williams
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Robin Williams isn't funny but Greg Giraldo was? Ouch...

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Robin Williams isn't funny but Greg Giraldo was? Ouch...


Thank goodness he isnt alive to see that post.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Robin Williams isn't funny but Greg Giraldo was? Ouch...

Giraldo was fine.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Robin Williams isn't funny but Greg Giraldo was? Ouch...

Giraldo was fine.
He's like a NBDL player compared to Williams though.

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 Post subject: Re: Robin Williams
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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Robin Williams isn't funny but Greg Giraldo was? Ouch...

Giraldo was fine.
He's like a NBDL player compared to Williams though.

Its all subjective I suppose.

I like Williams better


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 Post subject: Re: Robin Williams
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C'mon RPB!! This isnt like giving shit for liking the Stones or the Beatles more than the other one. Give him hell, dont be nice about it. This is a case of having a wrong opinion. :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Robin Williams
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
C'mon RPB!! This isnt like giving shit for liking the Stones or the Beatles more than the other one. Give him hell, dont be nice about it. This is a case of having a wrong opinion. :lol: :lol:

:lol:

I just dont wanna hammer Giraldo. Ross is a better target. He's pretty overrated outside of his gimmicky outfits.


And I understand not loving the legends. Buddy Hackett is on Stand up's mount rushmore and ill bet most here would say he's terrible.


But yeah, Williams is better than Giraldo


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Don Rickles
George Carlin
Richard Pryor
Rodney Dangerfield
Robin Williams
Ron White
Eddie Murphy

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Don Rickles
George Carlin
Richard Pryor
Rodney Dangerfield
Robin Williams
Ron White
Eddie Murphy


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Scorehead wrote:
My greatest comedian team photo includes:

Don Rickles
George Carlin
Richard Pryor
Rodney Dangerfield
Robin Williams
Ron White
Eddie Murphy


I'm so old that I prefer "young" George Carlin. The guy who came out in the suit.
It's tough for me to list but I'll try anyway in no particular order:

Steven Wright
Steve Martin
Jeff Altman
Dom Irrera
Johnny Carson
Don Rickles
Rodney Dangerfield
Kevin James
Richard Pryor
Jay Leno

Newer guys I really like:
Bill Burr
Tod Barry
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Kevin James


And now things come into focus.


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I'm so old that I prefer "young" George Carlin. The guy who came out in the suit.
It's tough for me to list but I'll try anyway in no particular order:


Kevin James





And some clown had the gall to call ME the King Asshole of Robin Williams Haterville....and I like Robin Williams!


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 Post subject: Re: Robin Williams
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I can't wrap my head around depression. From the outside it really looks like a bullshit American medical circlejerk. I know that isnt true, I know there is medicine and science that say otherwise but I just have a hard time with it. I feel like it's become too much of a catch all for people to avoid dealing with emotions. Life is hard, unfair and a constant kick to the balls/Caller Bob, I've learned it and I try to accept it. Like Pasta said, some people are just wired differently I guess. I suppose I should just shut up and consider myself lucky. :?


Hank, I believe you'd do better with the concept if it weren't called "depression." If it were called bumblesplat, you'd understand it a lot better. It's a shame they reused a word, or used a word in a more accurate sense than the common vernacular. As someone who gets medically depressed (brain chemistry,) I can tell you its real.

As someone who also gets sad at being kicked in the balls, etc., and the other heaping of abuse society offers up to us all, well :-) Life's a bitch sometimes, as you well know.

As for Robin Williams, I don't understand the outpouring. A great comedian and good actor, sure. The Second Coming, no.

Following some links, I ended up on Koko, the sign language "speaking" gorilla's web site. Koko is saddened about Williams too. Seems like crap, but then they show a video of Williams visiting the menagerie one day and communing. If the gorilla remembers him, then fine, I can see her being saddened. But like you, my mind isn't quite wrapping around it...

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Put the names of the posters that are discrediting Robin Williams' comedic chops in a list... it all makes a bit of sense now.

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Put the names of the posters that are discrediting Robin Williams' comedic chops in a list... it all makes a bit of sense now.


All have either had severe brain trauma, have a history of huffing paint products or both.


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 Post subject: Re: Robin Williams
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Not really that funny. Better actor than comedian. Never knew about all his charity work. I'm not surprised by the public outpouring. It's a trendy thing to be so public with your grief. Just another form of attention whoring.

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Not really that funny. Better actor than comedian. Never knew about all his charity work. I'm not surprised by the public outpouring. It's a trendy thing to be so public with your grief. Just another form of attention whoring.


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Not really that funny. Better actor than comedian. Never knew about all his charity work. I'm not surprised by the public outpouring. It's a trendy thing to be so public with your grief. Just another form of attention whoring.



Well said.



some people think Sinbad is funny, its all a matter of taste....hell, some people even like those gay little rice burner coupes.

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I've dealt with depression and social anxiety my entire life. It blows. Recently I made the decision that I'm totally done with going to Walmart because I just can't handle being in their lines. I start sweating and my heart starts racing and I feel like I'm going to faint, I just got to get the fuck out of there. I can't do any place with long lines.

People who don't have depression can never relate to it because you're just built differently. It's just a voice in your head that never shuts the fuck up. Whether you're at rock bottom or at top of the world your inner demons always remind you of how worthless you truly are. You can argue with it and tell it to go away all you want and it may leave you alone sometimes, but eventually it'll return. Sometimes taking your own life seems to be the only way you'll ever truly get peace. Suicidal thoughts are just a part of having depression.

Depression has ruined my life to an extent for sure. Every relationship and dating experience I've had has been a total disaster because I go through phases with it. One month I'm good, motivated and socialable and the next month I'm severely depressed and go into isolation by avoiding everyone I know and all social situations. For the most part I don't try hard in life because I don't care enough. My way of thinking is totally outside the box to the norm. I just don't take any issues with society seriously, really. Not taking anything seriously leads to finding humor in just about everything, whether it be a racially insensitive joke, a rape joke, etc etc. This is one reason why people with depression make for good comics.

Now, I'm lucky enough to not have it really bad, believe it or not. I've grown up and matured and dealt with it the best I can. I don't do therapy or any shit and I've seen people with far worse situations. The thing is that many people with depression seem to do nothing but seek sympathy and they get offended when someone doesn't understand their situation. They think the world owes them everything when the world doesn't owe them jack shit. They have a total "woe is me, everyone feel bad for me" attitude. I mean, I guess I can relate a little. Just having one person show they give a shit can lift you up a bit, but that's like putting a band-aid on an amputated knee. I myself decided a while ago that I would try my best to not dwell on anything and attempt to re-train my brain. I'm still fucked in the head, but I'm not THAT bad, at least I think. But I totally understand why people mock and laugh at depression because from the outside looking in it just looks some someone being a pussy or an attention whore.

Depression and sadness get mixed up alot, especially by teens. It's a shame when teens kill themselves because they never gave life a fair shot. Robin Williams on the other hand was 63 years old and had enough. I don't judge him for what he did. His inner demons eventually won the war in his head. He's at peace now.


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I've dealt with depression and social anxiety my entire life. It blows. Recently I made the decision that I'm totally done with going to Walmart because I just can't handle being in their lines. I start sweating and my heart starts racing and I feel like I'm going to faint, I just got to get the fuck out of there. I can't do any place with long lines.

People who don't have depression can never relate to it because you're just built differently. It's just a voice in your head that never shuts the fuck up. Whether you're at rock bottom or at top of the world your inner demons always remind you of how worthless you truly are. You can argue with it and tell it to go away all you want and it may leave you alone sometimes, but eventually it'll return. Sometimes taking your own life seems to be the only way you'll ever truly get peace. Suicidal thoughts are just a part of having depression.

Depression has ruined my life to an extent for sure. Every relationship and dating experience I've had has been a total disaster because I go through phases with it. One month I'm good, motivated and socialable and the next month I'm severely depressed and go into isolation by avoiding everyone I know and all social situations. For the most part I don't try hard in life because I don't care enough. My way of thinking is totally outside the box to the norm. I just don't take any issues with society seriously, really. Not taking anything seriously leads to finding humor in just about everything, whether it be a racially insensitive joke, a rape joke, etc etc. This is one reason why people with depression make for good comics.

Now, I'm lucky enough to not have it really bad, believe it or not. I've grown up and matured and dealt with it the best I can. I don't do therapy or any shit and I've seen people with far worse situations. The thing is that many people with depression seem to do nothing but seek sympathy and they get offended when someone doesn't understand their situation. They think the world owes them everything when the world doesn't owe them jack shit. They have a total "woe is me, everyone feel bad for me" attitude. I mean, I guess I can relate a little. Just having one person show they give a shit can lift you up a bit, but that's like putting a band-aid on an amputated knee. I myself decided a while ago that I won't dwell on anything and try my best to re-train my brain. I'm still fucked in the head, but I'm not THAT bad, at least I think. But I totally understand why people mock and laugh at depression because from the outside looking in it just looks some someone being a pussy or an attention whore.

Depression and sadness get mixed up alot, especially by teens. It's a shame when teens kill themselves because they never gave life a fair shot. Robin Williams on the other hand was 63 years old and had enough. I don't judge him for what he did. His inner demons eventually won the war in his head. He's at peace now.


Have you gave the pharmaceutical/counseling route a go?


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10 Mg of Lexapro can fix all that for...not much side effects , other than takes longer to bust a nut.

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10 Mg of Lexapro can fix all that for...not much side effects , other than takes longer to bust a nut.


BRAND NAME Lexapro, probably still the best anti-depressant in the SSRI class. In history, as well.


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10 Mg of Lexapro can fix all that for...not much side effects , other than takes longer to bust a nut.


BRAND NAME Lexapro, probably still the best anti-depressant in the SSRI class. In history, as well.


You corporate whore.

Sorry to hear that stuff, Gay. One of my good friends was helped very much by an SSRI. maybe give it a shot?

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I tried counseling, therapy and meds when I was in my teens and early 20s. It made it worse. Everyone reacts differently to these things.

It's such a tricky thing to deal with as a doctor or a therapist because not only is it hard as hell to diagnose (I think alot of people get diagnosed with it when they're just going through the motions), it's also hard to treat. Sometimes it's as simple as "here, take this 2 times a day" and you're good. Lithium worked the best for me but it's pure salt and you're dehydrated all day and I quickly got annoyed with that.

I just cope the best I can, I do better each passing year. Just fuck Walmart.


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