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Good for Link and anyone else who has a pension. They got over on the rest of us. No hard feelings here. Enjoy it.

I’d just rather they cover their shortfalls with their own tax money rather than try to reach into my pocket.

And I'd much rather that Corporations do the same as well. Which "WE" in the Public Sector know that they would NEVER do!

To take it a step further. The Stock Market (Which MANY are currently "whining" about) would collapse tomorrow if the "evil" Govt stopped subsidizing it.
That 401k plan of yours goes bellyup the second the Govt stops funding it with the hard earned money of American taxpayers. Ironically no one ever quite seems to "know" or ever "admit" this.

I’d agree that people don’t know that the government funds 401k plans. Mostly because it’s nonsense, but I suppose it’s technically correct to say people don’t know it.

That said, what do you think would happen to your pension plans if the stock market collapsed? Your guy is whining that Vallas didn’t use enough taxpayer money to invest in the market on your behalf. What happens to the suddenly concerning funded radio if the numerator shrinks that much more?

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Good for Link and anyone else who has a pension. They got over on the rest of us. No hard feelings here. Enjoy it.

I’d just rather they cover their shortfalls with their own tax money rather than try to reach into my pocket.

And I'd much rather that Corporations do the same as well. Which "WE" in the Public Sector know that they would NEVER do!

To take it a step further. The Stock Market (Which MANY are currently "whining" about) would collapse tomorrow if the "evil" Govt stopped subsidizing it.
That 401k plan of yours goes bellyup the second the Govt stops funding it with the hard earned money of American taxpayers. Ironically no one ever quite seems to "know" or ever "admit" this.

I’d agree that people don’t know that the government funds 401k plans. Mostly because it’s nonsense, but I suppose it’s technically correct to say people don’t know it.

That said, what do you think would happen to your pension plans if the stock market collapsed? Your guy is whining that Vallas didn’t use enough taxpayer money to invest in the market on your behalf. What happens to the suddenly concerning funded radio if the numerator shrinks that much more?


You're sort of clueless so let me say this. The stock market has been funded by the Gov't for decades. When it collapses or is about to collapse the Gov't "primes the pump" as a way of jumpstarting it. Which is nothing more than a subsidy. 401k plans are heavily tied to the stock market. Which means they are tied to the Govt. There is nothing "nonsensical" about it unless you are clueless to begin with.

And that doesn't even mention the "lucrative" tax breaks or "deferments" which they enjoy as well as part of the plan. Money that should be taxed as income the moment it is "earned" but is not thus reducing the tax liabilities of those that participate in the plan.

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The problem with DB pensions is the financial strain on the sponsors. All three major sponsor groups have experienced problems- corporate plans, Union multi employer plans, and government plans. They are not sustainable.


corporate pensions were promised and a % of compensation. lax BK laws only incentivized pension terminations/occasional freeze when it was discovered that restructuring was better than liquidation for those who didn't want to kill the golden goose.

i've been lucky, good wages and my pension (dimes on the dollar) was frozen. i know guys at united who lost their 401ks when their unions pooled 401k money to purchase a seat on the ual board and then lost their pension (nickels on the dollar) in bankruptcy. these guys were limping and staggering around at work at age 74, due to losing those 2 main retirement income sources. social security wasn't enough, they had to keep working.


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You're sort of clueless so let me say this. The stock market has been funded by the Gov't for decades. When it collapses or is about to collapse the Gov't "primes the pump" as a way of jumpstarting it. Which is nothing more than a subsidy. 401k plans are heavily tied to the stock market. Which means they are tied to the Govt. There is nothing "nonsensical" about it unless you are clueless to begin with.

And that doesn't even mention the "lucrative" tax breaks or "deferments" which they enjoy as well as part of the plan. Money that should be taxed as income the moment it is "earned" but is not thus reducing the tax liabilities of those that participate in the plan.

I don’t know what you think ‘funded’ means. You seem to confuse monetary policy with funding.

Your second graph is a gripe about tax policy, but seems to hint at the fact that 401k holders fund their retirement plans with earned income. Pension beneficiaries don’t.

You’re still not saying anything that has anything to do with your point.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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You're sort of clueless so let me say this. The stock market has been funded by the Gov't for decades. When it collapses or is about to collapse the Gov't "primes the pump" as a way of jumpstarting it. Which is nothing more than a subsidy. 401k plans are heavily tied to the stock market. Which means they are tied to the Govt. There is nothing "nonsensical" about it unless you are clueless to begin with.

And that doesn't even mention the "lucrative" tax breaks or "deferments" which they enjoy as well as part of the plan. Money that should be taxed as income the moment it is "earned" but is not thus reducing the tax liabilities of those that participate in the plan.

I don’t know what you think ‘funded’ means. You seem to confuse monetary policy with funding.

Your second graph is a gripe about tax policy, but seems to hint at the fact that 401k holders fund their retirement plans with earned income. Pension beneficiaries don’t.

You’re still not saying anything that has anything to do with your point.


You might want to throw in the towel dude as you really are embarrassing yourself at this point.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/e ... ailout.asp

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I don’t know what you think ‘funded’ means. You seem to confuse monetary policy with funding.

Your second graph is a gripe about tax policy, but seems to hint at the fact that 401k holders fund their retirement plans with earned income. Pension beneficiaries don’t.

You’re still not saying anything that has anything to do with your point.



Let me just reiterate. You sound either "confused", I'll informed, silly or just plain ignorant if you don't know or believe that the Govt "subsidizes" the stock market. It has always "subsidized" the stock market.

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Free markets are often conceptualized as having little to no interference from the government. However, in reality governments do step in to stabilize markets, regulate transactions, provide institutional frameworks, and enforce rules around contract law and property rights. Governments can also intervene when markets fail in the form of bailouts and other emergency measures.

In this article, we will look at how the government affects the markets and influences business in ways that often have unexpected consequences.

Governments have the capacity to make broad changes to monetary and fiscal policy, including raising or lowering interest rates, which has a huge impact on business.
They can boost the currency, which temporarily lifts corporate profits and share prices, but ultimately lowers values and spikes interest rates.
Governments can intervene when companies or entire segments of the economy are failing, or threatening to undermine the whole economic system, by providing bailouts.
Governments can create subsidies, taxing the public and giving the money to an industry, or tariffs, adding taxes to foreign products to lift prices and make domestic products more appealing.
Higher taxes, fees, and greater regulations can stymie businesses or entire industries.

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The Missing Link wrote:
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You're sort of clueless so let me say this. The stock market has been funded by the Gov't for decades. When it collapses or is about to collapse the Gov't "primes the pump" as a way of jumpstarting it. Which is nothing more than a subsidy. 401k plans are heavily tied to the stock market. Which means they are tied to the Govt. There is nothing "nonsensical" about it unless you are clueless to begin with.

And that doesn't even mention the "lucrative" tax breaks or "deferments" which they enjoy as well as part of the plan. Money that should be taxed as income the moment it is "earned" but is not thus reducing the tax liabilities of those that participate in the plan.

I don’t know what you think ‘funded’ means. You seem to confuse monetary policy with funding.

Your second graph is a gripe about tax policy, but seems to hint at the fact that 401k holders fund their retirement plans with earned income. Pension beneficiaries don’t.

You’re still not saying anything that has anything to do with your point.


You might want to throw in the towel dude as you really are embarrassing yourself at this point.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/e ... ailout.asp

So your argument is that bailouts have happened, therefore the government is funding individuals’ 401k plans? And you think this is a good argument?

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You’re posting a lot of stuff that makes me more & more confident you don’t know what the word ‘funding’ means.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
You’re posting a lot of stuff that makes me more & more confident you don’t know what the word ‘funding’ means.


Hey he's "Just Asking Questions" again. Disprove the point for once.

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You’re posting a lot of stuff that makes me more & more confident you don’t know what the word ‘funding’ means.


Hey he's "Just Asking Questions" again. Disprove the point for once.

There’s one sentence in my post and it’s not a question.

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I’m not even sure what you want disproved. Individuals put money in their 401ks (i.e., they fund them) and that money grows. When money is withdrawn, they pay taxes. The government does not put money into someone’s account.

I’m sure you can find an investopedia article to mansplain defined contribution retirement plans.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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You’re posting a lot of stuff that makes me more & more confident you don’t know what the word ‘funding’ means.


Hey he's "Just Asking Questions" again. Disprove the point for once.

There’s one sentence in my post and it’s not a question.


OK you can't disprove the point and I'm shocked actually that you can't. Allow me to break it down in ways in which hopefully you can "understand". "Priming The Pump" is all about Govt intervention into private markets in an effort to "spur ECONOMIC GROWTH". Priming the Pump is nothing more than a different name for "SUBSIDY". When the Govt does this, the Stock Market typically benefits.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/pump-priming.asp

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
I’m not even sure what you want disproved. Individuals put money in their 401ks (i.e., they fund them) and that money grows. When money is withdrawn, they pay taxes. The government does not put money into someone’s account.

I’m sure you can find an investopedia article to mansplain defined contribution retirement plans.



Is your 401k plan tied to the stock market yes or no?

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:

You're sort of clueless so let me say this. The stock market has been funded by the Gov't for decades. When it collapses or is about to collapse the Gov't "primes the pump" as a way of jumpstarting it. Which is nothing more than a subsidy. 401k plans are heavily tied to the stock market. Which means they are tied to the Govt. There is nothing "nonsensical" about it unless you are clueless to begin with.

And that doesn't even mention the "lucrative" tax breaks or "deferments" which they enjoy as well as part of the plan. Money that should be taxed as income the moment it is "earned" but is not thus reducing the tax liabilities of those that participate in the plan.

I don’t know what you think ‘funded’ means. You seem to confuse monetary policy with funding.

Your second graph is a gripe about tax policy, but seems to hint at the fact that 401k holders fund their retirement plans with earned income. Pension beneficiaries don’t.

You’re still not saying anything that has anything to do with your point.


You might want to throw in the towel dude as you really are embarrassing yourself at this point.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/e ... ailout.asp

So your argument is that bailouts have happened, therefore the government is funding individuals’ 401k plans? And you think this is a good argument?


You're Asking Questions again. "Quantitative Easing" is all about "Govt Intervention into Private Markets". Part of the reason that the Govt does this is to increase the value of the stock market. "Quantitative Easing" is nothing more that a different name for "SUBSIDY".

https://www.forex.com/en/market-analysi ... s-markets/
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How does quantitative easing impact financial markets?
Quantitative easing impacts financial markets because it sends a signal to market participants that central banks are actively buying assets and providing liquidity. It gives investors and traders some security during periods of financial crisis that could otherwise create panic.

Let’s take a look at how quantitative easing impacts two of the most popular financial markets: stocks and forex.

Quantitative easing and stock market performance
Quantitative easing leads to lower interest rates, which typically results in improved share price performance as risk-on assets become more appealing than saving in a bank.

Learn how to trade shares



The lower interest rates also mean that companies can borrow at lower costs, which creates the perfect environment to borrow money to expand the business. The positive sentiment towards companies can attract inflows of short-term financial capital, from both domestic and foreign investors.

However, quantitative easing can cause asset bubbles as a result of the euphoria and confidence created in financial markets. And unfortunately, bubbles can bust, so it’s vital to have suitable risk management measures in place.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
I’m not even sure what you want disproved. Individuals put money in their 401ks (i.e., they fund them) and that money grows. When money is withdrawn, they pay taxes. The government does not put money into someone’s account.

I’m sure you can find an investopedia article to mansplain defined contribution retirement plans.



Is your 401k plan tied to the stock market yes or no?

I have no idea what that means. There’s no requirement you invest your 401k money in equities. You can sit on straight cash or treasuries if you really want…debt, sovereigns…you have options.

None of that means the government puts a single dollar into your account.

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The Missing Link wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:

You're sort of clueless so let me say this. The stock market has been funded by the Gov't for decades. When it collapses or is about to collapse the Gov't "primes the pump" as a way of jumpstarting it. Which is nothing more than a subsidy. 401k plans are heavily tied to the stock market. Which means they are tied to the Govt. There is nothing "nonsensical" about it unless you are clueless to begin with.

And that doesn't even mention the "lucrative" tax breaks or "deferments" which they enjoy as well as part of the plan. Money that should be taxed as income the moment it is "earned" but is not thus reducing the tax liabilities of those that participate in the plan.

I don’t know what you think ‘funded’ means. You seem to confuse monetary policy with funding.

Your second graph is a gripe about tax policy, but seems to hint at the fact that 401k holders fund their retirement plans with earned income. Pension beneficiaries don’t.

You’re still not saying anything that has anything to do with your point.


You might want to throw in the towel dude as you really are embarrassing yourself at this point.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/e ... ailout.asp

So your argument is that bailouts have happened, therefore the government is funding individuals’ 401k plans? And you think this is a good argument?


You're Asking Questions again. "Quantitative Easing" is all about "Govt Intervention into Private Markets". Part of the reason that the Govt does this is to increase the value of the stock market. "Quantitative Easing" is nothing more that a different name for "SUBSIDY".

https://www.forex.com/en/market-analysi ... s-markets/

What does that have to do with government funding a 401k?

Government does things that impacts asset values. Pensions funded with taxpayer money disproportionately benefit (or suffer) from those actions.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:

You're sort of clueless so let me say this. The stock market has been funded by the Gov't for decades. When it collapses or is about to collapse the Gov't "primes the pump" as a way of jumpstarting it. Which is nothing more than a subsidy. 401k plans are heavily tied to the stock market. Which means they are tied to the Govt. There is nothing "nonsensical" about it unless you are clueless to begin with.

And that doesn't even mention the "lucrative" tax breaks or "deferments" which they enjoy as well as part of the plan. Money that should be taxed as income the moment it is "earned" but is not thus reducing the tax liabilities of those that participate in the plan.

I don’t know what you think ‘funded’ means. You seem to confuse monetary policy with funding.

Your second graph is a gripe about tax policy, but seems to hint at the fact that 401k holders fund their retirement plans with earned income. Pension beneficiaries don’t.

You’re still not saying anything that has anything to do with your point.


You might want to throw in the towel dude as you really are embarrassing yourself at this point.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/e ... ailout.asp

So your argument is that bailouts have happened, therefore the government is funding individuals’ 401k plans? And you think this is a good argument?


You're Asking Questions again. "Quantitative Easing" is all about "Govt Intervention into Private Markets". Part of the reason that the Govt does this is to increase the value of the stock market. "Quantitative Easing" is nothing more that a different name for "SUBSIDY".

https://www.forex.com/en/market-analysi ... s-markets/

What does that have to do with government funding a 401k?

Government does things that impacts asset values. Pensions funded with taxpayer money disproportionately benefit (or suffer) from those actions.


Are 401k plans tied to the stock market yes or no?

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Are 401k plans tied to the stock market yes or no?

Whose plan and what’s the specific investment mix?

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Are 401k plans tied to the stock market yes or no?

Whose plan and what’s the specific investment mix?


OK so it is tied to 401k plans. Thanks for (sort of) answering the question.

Your 401k plan also receives "tax subsidies" as well. This is yet another form of "funding" from which you "benefit". And yes in this instance the Govt is placing money directly into your bank account due to the reduction in taxes you have to pay on your income.

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You ought to worry about the number of taxpayers leaving your city and your state.

As evidenced by my "career" choices, My life is "secure" loser. Unfortunately for you, yours is not.

Let's look at your performance in this thread, which no doubt mirrors your life in some way.

You lie. You greatly exaggerate what little truth you speak of. You deflect pointing fingers but never the thumb. You use devisive sometimes hateful speech. You use racial speech. You insult those who disagree with you. You are a champion of using public money for your personal benefit.

Essentially you're a darker, less important Trump. It's a shame you are incapable of being better.

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You ought to worry about the number of taxpayers leaving your city and your state.

As evidenced by my "career" choices, My life is "secure" loser. Unfortunately for you, yours is not.

Let's look at your performance in this thread, which no doubt mirrors your life in some way.

You lie. You greatly exaggerate what little truth you speak of. You deflect pointing fingers but never the thumb. You use devisive sometimes hateful speech. You use racial speech. You insult those who disagree with you. You are a champion of using public money for your personal benefit.

Essentially you're a darker, less important Trump. It's a shame you are incapable of being better.

All of this and yet you still have to chase me (AND MANY OTHERS) around a message board in the hopes of conducting a conversation. How pathetic is that? Just Asking A Question.

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You are a champion of using public money for your personal benefit.

Working jobs in which you are routinely fired because you add little value and have no real training doesn't make you "virtuous" Frank. It makes you not all that smart. It's no one else's fault (Definitely not CTU members or mine) that you don't really have a career or job security. It's yours.

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Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:49 am 
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The Missing Link wrote:
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X3

You ought to worry about the number of taxpayers leaving your city and your state.

As evidenced by my "career" choices, My life is "secure" loser. Unfortunately for you, yours is not.

Let's look at your performance in this thread, which no doubt mirrors your life in some way.

You lie. You greatly exaggerate what little truth you speak of. You deflect pointing fingers but never the thumb. You use devisive sometimes hateful speech. You use racial speech. You insult those who disagree with you. You are a champion of using public money for your personal benefit.

Essentially you're a darker, less important Trump. It's a shame you are incapable of being better.

All of this.
Glad to see you agree with me.

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This is your modus operandi Frank.
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And your "pension" would cease to exist the second the gov't stopped subsidizing it with our tax dollars.
First you Personally attack someone and then whine as if it was you that was "personally" attacked. A miserable and bitter man with a rather fucked up disposition in life. While there are people that are generally playing a role imo like Caller Bob, you are not. I'm fairly certain that you are just as shitty, bitter, and fucked up in real life as you are on here.

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pittmike wrote:
Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.


Frank Coztansa wrote:
Again, your comprehension needs work.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:00 am 
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And how is this for lying by the way? Just Asking A Question.

Frank Coztansa wrote:
And your "pension" would cease to exist the second the gov't stopped subsidizing it with our tax dollars.

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pittmike wrote:
Technically I was drunk (big surprise) and asked her if she liked a tongue up her ass.


Frank Coztansa wrote:
Again, your comprehension needs work.


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I hope I am wrong, but I have a strange feeling that tonight we are going to see futures tank and some bank(s) unexpectedly say they are freezing deposits. The Treasury had earlier stated that they will not bail out SVB, but now I'm seeing the Fed and FDIC discussing ways to make depositors whole (above the $250k limit).

Reminds me of the Sunday night in 2008 when I saw the headline "JP Morgan to buy Bear Stearns for $2 per share."

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:11 pm 
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USDC and crypto rebounding. I don't know if it's a Fuck you or an assumption SVB will be bailed out. I'm 50.1% sure it's Fuck you. As for stock markets, they never say Fuck you. Coddle them or they'll they turn into a puddle.


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Of course we're going to bail out SVB. They're holding all the Climate Change money.

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