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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:17 am 
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How many people cared about this before yesterday?

Why do you ask?

People get caught up in the 'Flavor of the Day' injustices...and forget about them a week later...hell, even a day later.**



**Not all people are like this, but a fair amount of them.

Gotcha...thats an interesting way to look at it.


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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:19 am 
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Who cares if anyone here knew about it before?

I agree.

Even if people had not heard of Troy until yesterday, if it causes people to be outraged enough to question our country's justice system, I'm all for it. Americans can't wait to wave the flag and scream how we live in the "best country in the world", but we rarely take the time to look at our blemishes. A light needs to be shone on situations like what took place yesterday. America needs to look in the mirror and have an honest dialogue with itself.

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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
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What if Ugie, Chas, Steve, or any of the other people on the Crew's "list" posted that "Great day to be white!" pic? Would that change the level of offensiveness?

Please dont do that.

Thats Bullshit. We dont share the same views and this is not a good topic to joke about it as if we do.


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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
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What if Ugie, Chas, Steve, or any of the other people on the Crew's "list" posted that "Great day to be white!" pic? Would that change the level of offensiveness?

Please dont do that.

Thats Bullshit. We dont share the same views and this is not a good topic to joke about it as if we do.


Thank you.

I dunno RPB, I thought that was a fair question by Spanky.

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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:22 am 
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we rarely take the time to look at our blemishes.

I agree with most of what you said, but disagree with this part. Isn't that exactly why this is national news? Because so many people realize that this is a "blemish"? The discussion you seek is what is happening.

Feel free to have this type of discussion in Egypt, Lybia, Bahrain, Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, etc. I won't be joining you though.

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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:23 am 
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That's interesting, because he wasn't electrocuted. But he was black and race plays a role in this case - and he's definitely not a RB from Iowa State.

It's still mocking an execution though.

The other stuff I didn't find offensive. The football pics were just silly stuff that could easily be glossed over. And Tiny's post was merely pointing out the fact that race does play a role in this case.


Thank you for saying that .... I get the feeling some around here are too vapid to understand a post like mine isn't solely for the fact of mocking, in this case, the not terribly unlikely idea that race played a role in this execution.

That said, I should retract the picture because I guess Texas (?) killed one of those sick fucks that dragged a black guy around tied to the back of a pickup until the poor guy met his demise. So this is where I would say that it's tied 1 apiece .... but then those same people probably wouldn't like that either.

In closing ... spanky, do both of us a favor and get the hell off my back. If you can't tell the difference between me and those idiots you listed, then you're a bigger dullard than I already thought.

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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:24 am 
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What if Ugie, Chas, Steve, or any of the other people on the Crew's "list" posted that "Great day to be white!" pic? Would that change the level of offensiveness?

No.

First of all, I like Ugie, and I've never had a problem with him. Not sure what "list" you're talking about, but if you're trying to insinuate that I pick my battles based on who makes a post rather than what is posted, you're flatly wrong. Hell, I've even told RPB and Bagels to fuck off before and I've come close to having words with the other guys.

Not sure why you're trying to pick a fight with me today Spanky, but I'm not in the mood. Seriously.

My main point is, if I have an issue with someone it's solely based on what I feel. Nothing else comes into play.

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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:24 am 
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What if Ugie, Chas, Steve, or any of the other people on the Crew's "list" posted that "Great day to be white!" pic? Would that change the level of offensiveness?

Please dont do that.

Thats Bullshit. We dont share the same views and this is not a good topic to joke about it as if we do.


Thank you.

There was no joke in my post. No bullshit either.

You're welcome.

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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:25 am 
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spanky wrote:
What if Ugie, Chas, Steve, or any of the other people on the Crew's "list" posted that "Great day to be white!" pic? Would that change the level of offensiveness?

Please dont do that.

Thats Bullshit. We dont share the same views and this is not a good topic to joke about it as if we do.


Thank you.

I dunno RPB, I thought that was a fair question by Spanky.

The question is fine if its directed at Kid.

To say the Crew's list is saying we all have the same view on who is racist.

We certainly dont.


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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:26 am 
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spanky wrote:
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What if Ugie, Chas, Steve, or any of the other people on the Crew's "list" posted that "Great day to be white!" pic? Would that change the level of offensiveness?

Please dont do that.

Thats Bullshit. We dont share the same views and this is not a good topic to joke about it as if we do.


Thank you.

There was no joke in my post. No bullshit either.

You're welcome.

I see. So you believe that Myself, OKC, Bagels, K.I. and Free Ajent all share the same vies on things?


If so, you are an idiot


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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Not sure what "list" you're talking about

The "Board Racists" list.

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Not sure why you're trying to pick a fight with me today Spanky, but I'm not in the mood. Seriously.

Not trying to pick a fight, trying to have a discussion.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
The question is fine if its directed at Kid.

To say the Crew's list is saying we all have the same view on who is racist.

We certainly dont.

Oh ok, I can understand that. No argument here.

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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:28 am 
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spanky wrote:
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Not sure what "list" you're talking about

The "Board Racists" list.

Pretty sure the "list" was a joke.

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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:29 am 
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Again, you speak as if we're 100% sure he was innocent...?

I'm with you on the questioning of America though. I do it all the time. There is no reason to have to look through red, white, and blue; starred and stripped sunglasses all the time.

But if I mention Troy Davis in 3 weeks from now - how many people will remember him? None of this matters if people are just using this as a reason to get upset...or develop a mob mentality...which my Facebook seems to suggest.


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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
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I see. So you believe that Myself, OKC, Bagels, K.I. and Free Ajent all share the same vies on things?


If so, you are an idiot

The question was directed at Kid - which is why he was quoted and I was talking to him - you jumped in with your "bullshit" and "you are an idiot". Maybe you should go back and check that to make sure.

Kid came up the name "Crew" not me. That's why I used that name. At least you acknowledge your membership though - nobody else brought you up.

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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
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Not sure why you're trying to pick a fight with me today Spanky, but I'm not in the mood. Seriously.

Not trying to pick a fight, trying to have a discussion.


Are you?

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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
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But if I mention Troy Davis in 3 months from now - how many people will remember him?

So what? It doesn't change all of the bullshit surrounding his case.

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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
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Not sure what "list" you're talking about

The "Board Racists" list.

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Not sure why you're trying to pick a fight with me today Spanky, but I'm not in the mood. Seriously.

Not trying to pick a fight, trying to have a discussion.

The board racists list is a list that I (meaning me...singlularly) started. I started that thread because I (meaning me...singularly) wanted to start it.

You seem to have a problem with the fact that I didn't particularly dig CIJ's electric chair pic. If Douchebag had posted that pic, I would've had the same response. RPB, Bagels, Ivan, or whomever else I'm friends with on this board would've gotten the same reaction from me. I didn't like the pic, I made it known. No one needs to agree with me. I don't particularly care if anyone does.

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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
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It's a really sad case I found out about a couple of years ago. It's very possible that an innocent man was murdered last night. One innocent person being executed (regardless of race) is a terrible injustice and should be given a better look than it was given. If almost all of the "witnesses" recant their testimony and the balistic evidence is proven to be incorrect, then what evidence is their that says this man is guilty?

Capital punishment remains flawed/broken and should be done away with...

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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:33 am 
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spanky wrote:
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I see. So you believe that Myself, OKC, Bagels, K.I. and Free Ajent all share the same vies on things?


If so, you are an idiot

The question was directed at Kid - which is why he was quoted and I was talking to him - you jumped in with your "bullshit" and "you are an idiot". Maybe you should go back and check that to make sure.

If it was directed at Kid, then you would have said "your list"


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[Kid came up the name "Crew" not me. That's why I used that name. At least you acknowledge your membership though - nobody else brought you up.

Yes Kid came up with it and specifically listed who he was talking about. Then you used it today. You wanted to put it on the whole group. Now youre backing away from that and its obvious.

Just admit you made a dumbass mistake and move on


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 Post subject: Re: Troy Davis
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Not sure what "list" you're talking about

The "Board Racists" list.

Pretty sure the "list" was a joke.

Pretty sure not everyone thought so.

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[Kid came up the name "Crew" not me. That's why I used that name. At least you acknowledge your membership though - nobody else brought you up.

Yes Kid came up with it and specifically listed who he was talking about. Then you used it today. You wanted to put it on the whole group. Now youre backing away from that and its obvious.

Just admit you made a dumbass mistake and move on

Ok. :lol: Genius. :roll:
If Panther pulled what you just did (jumping in athread that wasn't about him, using all sorts of tricks to draw attention to himself, etc.), you would have been all over him.

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spanky wrote:
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The "Board Racists" list.

Pretty sure the "list" was a joke.

Pretty sure not everyone thought so.

Pretty sure if someone thought the list was real, they probably thought they belonged on it.

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[Kid came up the name "Crew" not me. That's why I used that name. At least you acknowledge your membership though - nobody else brought you up.

Yes Kid came up with it and specifically listed who he was talking about. Then you used it today. You wanted to put it on the whole group. Now youre backing away from that and its obvious.

Just admit you made a dumbass mistake and move on

Ok. :lol: Genius. :roll:
If Panther pulled what you just did (jumping in athread that wasn't about him, using all sorts of tricks to draw attention to himself, etc.), you would have been all over him.

Keep trying to deflect attention. It was obvious what you said and meant.


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But if I mention Troy Davis in 3 months from now - how many people will remember him?

So what? It doesn't change all of the bullshit surrounding his case.

The bullshit no one will remember in 3 months. What changes? Are people going to suddenly rise up and change the system? No.

"Oh, look, an injustice! What a travesty! (1 week later) Holy shit, did you see Megatron go up and get that one?!?! FOOTBALL, APPLE PIE, AMERICA BABY!!!"



Some people care, some people don't. Not really sure what your point is. Should those of us that do care just stop caring so it won't annoy you so much?

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I just love when someone thinks they have something to say but when it comes time to say it, let alone defend what they wrote, they can't backpedal fast enough.

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But if I mention Troy Davis in 3 months from now - how many people will remember him?

So what? It doesn't change all of the bullshit surrounding his case.

The bullshit no one will remember in 3 months. What changes? Are people going to suddenly rise up and change the system? No.

"Oh, look, an injustice! What a travesty! (1 week later) Holy shit, did you see Megatron go up and get that one?!?! FOOTBALL, APPLE PIE, AMERICA BABY!!!"

You seem on an endless quest to prove people, specifically American people are really dumb.

What do you seek to do with this quest?


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Some people care, some people don't. Not really sure what your point is. Should those of us that do care just stop caring so it won't annoy you so much?

I don't think that's what he's saying. He's saying that a lot of the outrage is hollow and insincere. That's probably true.

He's just pointing out that Americans worship comfort. We like to sedate ourselves with entertainment. I don't like it, but it's engrained in this society's fabric. Hell, you tell a person you don't watch TV and they'll think you're crazy. Shit, a chick laughed at me one time because I told her I spend more time reading than watching TV. That's America for you.

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Keep trying to deflect attention. It was obvious what you said and meant.

What attention am I deflecting? I haven't done that once. The person I asked he question to (the person who was originally in the conversation, BTW) answered it. Without name calling or profanity. It was pretty simple, really.

A person to whom the question was not directed jumped in, and couldn't so the same.......

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You seem on an endless quest to prove people, specifically American people are really dumb.

What do you seek to do with this quest?



To be "That Guy" on the message board.

It gets old really, really fast.


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