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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:12 am 
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Good dolphin, DT and others have made good points about the public displays of grief, many of which seem exaggerated and more of the same tired celebrity worship. I don't think they're mocking a guy like Nas' feelings, someone who grew up with an attachment to Kobe and followed his career closely.

I agree that things may have been different had Kobe had the same success in OKC instead of LA. At the same time Durant and Westbrook are quite popular nationally despite playing most of their careers in OKC, so maybe it wouldn't have been too much different. These guys are not only popular because of the city in which they play, but because of shoe deals, commercials, marketing campaigns, and the general popularity of the NBA and its compatibility with social media viral video sharing and whatnot. Much easier for a 360 dunk to go viral than it is a long bomb from Mahomes to Hill. So media opportunities and the internet enable players to transcend the limited commerical opportunities of a smaller city.

That being said, I guess the past few days of attention on the Kobe crash do indeed say something about Kobe but maybe more about our culture. This is the new way people mourn high profile celebrities and it's not going to change. Everyone has a Twitter or IG account. Sharing on those platforms is going to fuel more sharing and commenting and it's all gonna be quite vapid in the aggregate. But then i do think it's on the consumer of these posts more so than the authors of all the dumb posts when it comes to feeling annoyed. There's nothing compelling one to surf Twitter or whatnot - if you're annoyed by what you see, then follow different people. One of the things I can't wrap my mind around most times is the general board criticism of Twitter. This is often seen in threads about some guy named Quad City Pat, random SJWs, and of course dicaro. In other words, much of the negative perception on the board of Twitter is because guys are following some of the dumbest and most ignorant people who use it. When I first started using Twitter it was to follow the revolutions in Egypt and Tunisia. Over there Twitter was materially helping to foment a revolution. It was critical to receive news reports and updates that were not government propaganda from the regimes that were under fire. So when I see all this hate about Twitter and whatnot here I'm inclined to think it's actually on your patterns of consumption and not the platform itself. And again, Twitter and other platforms are gonna be saturated with dumb takes following events like Kobe's death. And that's just something I think we have to get used to.



Its as Phil Jackson once said about Sportstalk Radio. Mental Masturbation. There are certain people on here that go looking for dumb comments then act surprised when they actually get dumb comments.

There is nothing that i'm looking to ascertain about Kobe Bryant from looking at the random twitter feeds of people that never knew Kobe. If I click on their twitter account then I must be looking for an off the wall comment. Why be aghast once I get what it is that I am obviously looking for?

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... Why be aghast once I get what it is that I am obviously looking for?

Irony is officially dead.

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... Why be aghast once I get what it is that I am obviously looking for?

Irony is officially dead.


The Irony Sheik could be a good mult.

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I didn't believe that GD's and DT's remarks were directed at me. Either way I disagree with their take and thought it was a cheap attack.

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I didn't believe that GD's and DT's remarks were directed at me. Either way I disagree with their take and thought it was a cheap attack.


What about their comments was a cheap attack and on what?

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I didn't believe that GD's and DT's remarks were directed at me. Either way I disagree with their take and thought it was a cheap attack.


What about their comments was a cheap attack and on what?


Saying that some people who are mourning are mentally ill. Despite being so consumed with the lives of other athletes, politicians and radio personalities that they've literally spent years of their lives posting for free on a sports message board, they're calling others mentally ill because they didn't mourn the death of Kobe and his daughter the way that they did or the way they feel is appropriate.

We all mourn differently and are impacted by different things for many different reasons. I've only shed tears at 2 funerals in my adult life and I've never been overcome with grief to the point that I've collapsed crying. I would never accuse anyone of faking or being mentally ill because they cry a lot or mourn differently.

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I gotta agree with them here. I don't browse randos in Twitter all that much but I'm sure there's a lot out there that is just silly. It's well known that we take celebrity worship far too seriously in this country. I'd like to think I'm being very objective here because unlike any recent celebrity death I can remember Kobe's demise was the first time in my life that an athlete/celebrity I did pay attention to on a regular basis shockingly died. So in that way this weighs more for me than others. But even so, in taking stock of all my emotional commitments, it's not reasonable to spend an inordinate amount of time being down over someone who didn't even know I exist. There are better things to think about for all of us. And again, generally speaking, it's not healthy for us to glamorize celebrities the way that we do. I believe I can say that while simultaneously being sad about Kobe and those families, which I am.

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I gotta agree with them here. I don't browse randos in Twitter all that much but I'm sure there's a lot out there that is just silly. It's well known that we take celebrity worship far too seriously in this country. I'd like to think I'm being very objective here because unlike any recent celebrity death I can remember Kobe's demise was the first time in my life that an athlete/celebrity I did pay attention to on a regular basis shockingly died. So in that way this weighs more for me than others. But even so, in taking stock of all my emotional commitments, it's not reasonable to spend an inordinate amount of time being down over someone who didn't even know I exist. There are better things to think about for all of us. And again, generally speaking, it's not healthy for us to glamorize celebrities the way that we do. I believe I can say that while simultaneously being sad about Kobe and those families, which I am.


This board doesn't exist or our fandoms don't exist if we didn't spend an inordinate amount of time focusing on the careers and lives of folks who will never know that we exist. I don't think it's reasonable to look down on someone else while doing essentially the same thing but in a different way.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.syracuse.com/sports/2020/01/carmelo-anthony-not-expected-to-play-against-lakers-in-teams-first-game-since-kobe-bryants-death-report.html%3foutputType=amp


Good Dolphin isn't going to like this...


He was Catholic too. Sad!

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Very ______ tribute by the Lakers.


I hope everyone cleared their emotions with Good Dolphin.


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Don Tiny wrote:
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... Why be aghast once I get what it is that I am obviously looking for?

Irony is officially dead.


Nah that happened on Page 5 of the Di Caro thread

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MANY Kobe tributes this weekend at the Waste Management Phoenix Open.

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It's interesting/disconcerting to see that there's still a lack of clarity regarding the crash, except that a crash occurred of course. The fateful left turn the pilot took is rather inexplicable since it deviated from the route and placed the chopper in the middle of nowhere, relatively speaking. Perhaps it was a long u-turn. The NTSB should release a preliminary report sometime this month. A longer report is expected within a year. A few bikers and hikers were actually at the crash site a few minutes after it happened. The pics they took are super disturbing - a raging inferno and splinters of the destroyed chopper. https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/28/kobe-bry ... ew-photos/

They apparently checked for survivors at first but then saw things that were "too gruesome to say."

https://www.bikemag.com/news/mountain-b ... ant-crash/

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It's interesting/disconcerting to see that there's still a lack of clarity regarding the crash, except that a crash occurred of course. The fateful left turn the pilot took is rather inexplicable since it deviated from the route and placed the chopper in the middle of nowhere, relatively speaking. Perhaps it was a long u-turn. The NTSB should release a preliminary report sometime this month. A longer report is expected within a year. A few bikers and hikers were actually at the crash site a few minutes after it happened. The pics they took are super disturbing - a raging inferno and splinters of the destroyed chopper. https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/28/kobe-bry ... ew-photos/

They apparently checked for survivors at first but then saw things that were "too gruesome to say."

https://www.bikemag.com/news/mountain-b ... ant-crash/


When will the crash photos make it online?

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A 24 second moment of silence in church today.

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A 24 second moment of silence in church today.

That's a bit much


Apostle also played a clip where Kobe discusses his faith in a very powerful way. He also pointed out that the last place Kobe visited before death was his house of worship.

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A 24 second moment of silence in church today.

That's a bit much


Apostle also played a clip where Kobe discusses his faith in a very powerful way. He also pointed out that the last place Kobe visited before death was his house of worship.

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A 24 second moment of silence in church today.

That's a bit much


Apostle also played a clip where Kobe discusses his faith in a very powerful way. He also pointed out that the last place Kobe visited before death was his house of worship.

Took me aback he was a practicing Catholic. My son reminded me he grew up in Italy.

What is it about catholics that just love buttrape?

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A 24 second moment of silence in church today.

That's a bit much


Apostle also played a clip where Kobe discusses his faith in a very powerful way. He also pointed out that the last place Kobe visited before death was his house of worship.

Took me aback he was a practicing Catholic. My son reminded me he grew up in Italy.


I completely missed how religious he was as well.

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The pin on #16 is 24 paces on, 8 paces from the left today.

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Nas wrote:
A 24 second moment of silence in church today.

That's a bit much


Apostle also played a clip where Kobe discusses his faith in a very powerful way. He also pointed out that the last place Kobe visited before death was his house of worship.

Took me aback he was a practicing Catholic. My son reminded me he grew up in Italy.

What is it about catholics that just love buttrape?

It's an assload of fun!

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MANY Kobe tributes this weekend at the Phoenix Open.


There will be no free advertising here for that bunch.

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Moss was incoherent.

Bruschi had nothing substantive to say. You can always spot the guy who has nothing to say but is trying to mask it.

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