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Brock Turner is "completely unrelated" to Kobe.

You said there was "near zero dissent" with Kobe, which not true. So no, you didn't post facts. There is no need for a name calling contest here because idiot accurately describes you and is not calling you a name at this point.

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It was sexual assault, Brock Turn Fan, not dry humping. Jesus Christ you are a fucking moron.


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Brock Turner is "completely unrelated" to Kobe.

You said there was "near zero dissent" with Kobe, which not true. So no, you didn't post facts. There is no need for a name calling contest here because idiot accurately describes you and is not calling you a name at this point.

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So you can't discuss this intelligently. What a whiny little bitch.

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 Post subject: Re: Kobe
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It was sexual assault, Brock Turn Fan, not dry humping. Jesus Christ you are a fucking moron.


So no comment on Kobe's case. Good to know.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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Brock Turner is "completely unrelated" to Kobe.

You said there was "near zero dissent" with Kobe, which not true. So no, you didn't post facts. There is no need for a name calling contest here because idiot accurately describes you and is not calling you a name at this point.

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So you can't discuss this intelligently. What a whiny little patriot.
You said you posted facts, and I pointed out that you did not post facts. There is nothing intelligent about your points.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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Brock Turner is "completely unrelated" to Kobe.

You said there was "near zero dissent" with Kobe, which not true. So no, you didn't post facts. There is no need for a name calling contest here because idiot accurately describes you and is not calling you a name at this point.

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So you can't discuss this intelligently. What a whiny little patriot.
You said you posted facts, and I pointed out that you did not post facts. There is nothing intelligent about your points.

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You aren't very smart. These are both high profile rape cases - fact. A few things were said on Twitter about the case. Kobe received high profile tributes during the Emmys, the Oscars, the news for a month, the NBA All Star Game, and a massive public funeral that featured celebrities and was aired on television.

These are all facts. Rather than discuss this in any detail you whine and complain. Still yet to see you refute any of this btw other than namecall and wine:

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Brock Turner got drunk at 19, and was caught grinding on a passed out girl he left a party with. Kobe, a married man with children held a 19 year old in a hotel room. She had bruises around her neck. He then bent her over a chair for rough sex that caused her to bleed enough that there was blood on his clothes. He then jerked off on her face to finish because it was "his move".

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 Post subject: Re: Kobe
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1. Kobe's allegation happened in an era that was still very favorable to the rich.
2. The Colorado woman consented to sex. She allegedly withdrew that consent when it came to anal sex and Kobe allegedly ignored her.
3. Brock Turner's victim didn't consent to anything. She was passed out.
4. Brock Turner was charged and convicted of 3 felonies and Kobe wasn't convicted of anything.
5. Kobe and his daughter are dead. Brock Turner is still alive.
6. Kobe was beloved for winning championships and being in the top 1% of NBA players.
7. Brock Turner isn't beloved by anyone except his family and you.
8. A beloved person dying young and suddenly and with a young child impacts the lives of MANY.
9. Brock Turner isn't being victimized.
10. Kobe became famous because of his success on the court. Brock Turner's fame came from his sentence

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With a national story like this where multiple families have been impacted, it's important to remember the real story, how Brock Turner got a raw deal.

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 Post subject: Re: Kobe
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Yet, he was given a month long celebration with next to zero public dissent.


https://www.google.com/search?q=kobe+br ... 84&bih=470

All of these have been posted over the last 30 days. That is not "zero dissent." This is more than "a few things on Twitter." These are facts.

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What a strange and unnecessary hill to die on.

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With a national story like this where multiple families have been impacted, it's important to remember the real story, how Brock Turner got a raw deal.


Don't forget the poor judge who got pilloried for doing his job too well for rapist Brock.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Yet, he was given a month long celebration with next to zero public dissent.


https://www.google.com/search?q=kobe+br ... 84&bih=470

All of these have been posted over the last 30 days. That is not "zero dissent." This is more than "a few things on Twitter." These are facts.


A few articles online wile being nearly universally praised across the Oscars, Emmys, news, NBA All-Star coverage, and in a half-day public funeral is next to zero dissent, but thanks for playing.

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Still refuted nothing, while using raped and retard to argue brilliant.

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 Post subject: Re: Kobe
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1. Kobe's allegation happened in an era that was still very favorable to the rich.
2. The Colorado woman consented to sex. She allegedly withdrew that consent when it came to anal sex and Kobe allegedly ignored her.
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3. Brock Turner's victim didn't consent to anything. She was passed out.
4. Brock Turner was charged and convicted of 3 felonies and Kobe wasn't convicted of anything.
5. Kobe and his daughter are dead. Brock Turner is still alive.
6. Kobe was beloved for winning championships and being in the top 1% of NBA players.
7. Brock Turner isn't beloved by anyone except his family and you.
8. A beloved person dying young and suddenly and with a young child impacts the lives of MANY.
9. Brock Turner isn't being victimized.
10. Kobe became famous because of his success on the court. Brock Turner's fame came from his sentence


This is how consent works now. The rest can be summarized as one guy wasn't able to pay off someone. The other one is good at basketball and has kids, so anally raping someone without consent is fine.

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 Post subject: Re: Kobe
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Part of me wonders if WfR wants this negative attention. I think the only person that would call Brock Turner evil are July and people like July. July also probably thinks Kobe is evil too. So what's the point? What does Brock Turner have to do with Kobe? This is the strangest hill to do on.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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Yet, he was given a month long celebration with next to zero public dissent.


https://www.google.com/search?q=kobe+br ... 84&bih=470

All of these have been posted over the last 30 days. That is not "zero dissent." This is more than "a few things on Twitter." These are facts.


A few articles online wile being nearly universally praised across the Oscars, Emmys, news, NBA All-Star coverage, and in a half-day public funeral is next to zero dissent, but thanks for playing.
The link I posted contains MANY more than "a few articles online" and is not merely a "few things on Twitter." These are still facts, and you are still wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Kobe
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Part of me wonders if WfR wants this negative attention.

Maybe. He's a strange cat. You have to be to get into any sort of tussle with Peoria Matt of all people.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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Yet, he was given a month long celebration with next to zero public dissent.


https://www.google.com/search?q=kobe+br ... 84&bih=470

All of these have been posted over the last 30 days. That is not "zero dissent." This is more than "a few things on Twitter." These are facts.


A few articles online wile being nearly universally praised across the Oscars, Emmys, news, NBA All-Star coverage, and in a half-day public funeral is next to zero dissent, but thanks for playing.
The link I posted contains MANY more than "a few articles online" and is not merely a "few things on Twitter." These are still facts, and you are still wrong.


A dozen online stickers versus tributes in front of millions of people. Hmm.

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Part of me wonders if WfR wants this negative attention.

Maybe. He's a strange cat. You have to be to get into any sort of tussle with Peoria Matt of all people.


I just say what I believe. Such as consciously ass raping a girl is worse than having her pass out as you are fooling around. Crazy I know.

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All Brock Turner needs to do is win some gold medals. All will be ignored after that.

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All Brock Turner needs to do is win some gold medals. All will be ignored after that.


He probably would have. He just needed to get married then go for anal. Helps to make you a hero. You are a believe all women type. Good to know what a phony virtue signaler you really are.
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Yeah. That's what I believed happened.

She wanted to bang him. There was consent. And they probably had vaginal sex. She just didn't like it when he flipped her over for anal.

I'm against "anal sex". The vagina is the best thing. It's awesome. Always go with that. There is no reason to bang a lady in the ass in my opinion.

If you have the option, always take the vagina over her ass hole. That's a no brainer to me.


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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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All Brock Turner needs to do is win some gold medals. All will be ignored after that.


He probably would have. He just needed to get married then go for anal. Helps to make you a hero. You are a believe all women type. Good to know what a phony virtue signaler you really are.
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I've tried nuance with you and Brock Turner. You weren't interested. Now you get shit posts.

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Sure you did. Ass raping a conscience woman as a married father means you are a hero. If you get drunk at 19 and finger a passed out girl you are a master criminal. You are such a feminist.

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Sure you did. Ass raping a conscience woman as a married father means you are a hero. If you get drunk at 19 and finger a passed out girl you are a master criminal. You are such a feminist.

Does redemption play any part? Kobe did a horrible thing. But the fact is the victim put a price on it and he paid it. What Kobe had done since then shouldn't be ignored.


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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Sure you did. Ass raping a conscience woman as a married father means you are a hero. If you get drunk at 19 and finger a passed out girl you are a master criminal. You are such a feminist.


Read the Brock Turner thread again. I didn't lionize Kobe either.

I'm not even sure we disagree about your underlying point. Which I think is: people gladly look the other way when someone famous does something terrible.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Sure you did. Ass raping a conscience woman as a married father means you are a hero. If you get drunk at 19 and finger a passed out girl you are a master criminal. You are such a feminist.


Aren't you always the guy who denigrates any and everything which smells like "woke"?

Most of the celebration of Kobe Bryant centered on Kobe Bryant the basketball player.
I saw very little if anything which made him out to be the 2nd coming of Gandhi.

As far as Kavanaugh goes he was up for the Supreme Court. That made the questioning of his morality legitimate. He should have been scrutinized.

If Kobe were up for the Supreme Court then the Colorado rape (if true) would and should have been fair game.

As usual you're using a false equivalency to make your point.

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Sure you did. Ass raping a conscience woman as a married father means you are a hero. If you get drunk at 19 and finger a passed out girl you are a master criminal. You are such a feminist.

Does redemption play any part? Kobe did a horrible thing. But the fact is the victim put a price on it and he paid it. What Kobe had done since then shouldn't be ignored.


What gave the Brock Turner story legs was his dad's tone deaf letter to the judge begging for leniency in sentencing.

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Kobe's Colorado rape has been addressed MANY times here. I'm probably his biggest fan on this board and I've brought it up a lot of times and never excused his behavior. It was even addressed earlier in this thread.

I do find it odd that WFR is white knighting for Brock Turner even though the woman he was convicted of sexually assaulting NEVER gave him consent to do anything. WFR is hammering Kobe even though the woman he raped did consent to vaginal sex. The WFR I know would be mocking the idea of withdrawing consent. He's making the exception for Kobe.

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