Who's going to want to live there after the destruction left by the hurricane? What insurers would insure houses now?

My brother has a place on the island of Captiva, which took a direct hit. He's really bummed out about it and has no idea if his house is still standing. The bridges to the island were knocked out.

Florida faces threats from hurricanes every year. The state has gotten lucky it has not been hit more often.

Good post . The fact that people are just now discovering they have hurricanes is going to have a severe effect on people wanting to live there

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

People will build again and get bailed out by the cold weather states again.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

You act like this is the first destructive hurricane that has hit Florida in modern times.

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Me, personally.. if my home,vehicles and everything we own were destroyed.. I'd rebuild and sell within a year or two..couldn't go through that twice.

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Even if you get your insurance to pay out, good luck finding the contractors with the labor shortage.

Material going to be hard to come by also.

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There should be a different level of government aid for second houses.

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Have a place down there, and got lucky with only some minor cosmetic damage. However, all the places we like to go when down there are gone/severely damaged. Already decided that we aren't doing our normal Christmas break trip.

It will be rebuilt, but my fear is that a place like FMB, which was a mix of all kinds of houses ($$$$$ to $), restaurants, shops, many "mom and pop" older places, will now become a giant Margaritaville resort complex and a series of generic "Bubba Gump Shrimp" restaurants. The smaller, independent places won't have the money to afford the building requirements of new construction.

From what I can tell, hurricane building codes are off the chart expensive.

They are. I think that's why you see a lot of "people on twitter" happy when they see their house/building still "standing". Even if they know it's likely a complete gut job/remodel, I think that having some sort of frame remaining allows them to avoid many of the newer requirements.

For anyone that knows the Bonita Beach area, there is a restaurant/bar right on the beach called Doc's. I believe they are grandfathered in, because no other businesses are allowed on the beach side of the road. The surge took their first floor right down to the piers. Everything in it (walls, bar, bathrooms, kitchen, etc) is gone. They had "hurricane" windows, and the owner took photos from the second floor and it looks like it did the day before Ian. They should be able to "fix" the first floor and continue. If the storm had managed to knock down the building, my guess is they wouldn't be able to rebuild. That's the problem for most of FMB, the buildings are just gone.

So, casual fan has beachfront vacation property in gorgeous Florida. I even think Denis Humble, just got humbled in his Janesville, WI vacation home.

Humblebrag Dennis generously offered his place up for a vacation for me, will wait to see if casual fan offers the same deal before I judge him.

I thought he lives there full time now? He's now got a getaway place even deeper in the Northwoods?

Ummm, no. Denis can keep his humblebrag status around here. From my place, if you wanted to walk, and then swim across Estero Bay (or grab one of the washed up boats....), it's about 3 miles to beach. 8 miles in a car. Would need to add a zero to the value of my place, just to get "entry level" beachfront.

It was the first Covid year before he moved up there.

Yeah I did not move up full time until October 2021. I may grab a place up near St Germain for snowmobiling purposes, but I am down to just this house. Got rid of both Illinois properties last year.

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RIP Plute!

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GO BEARS!!!

I am north of Madison not South. I do not compare myself to other people and their possessions. If I did I would fall into the McMansion trap. I downsized from Pulte estates when I moved up here. The only place I really go all out is on my vehicle, and boy is my new one sweet.

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Dane County? That's pretty liberal up there.

RINO Denni$?

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I am in Adams County. There are lots of places North of Madison. It’s Trumpette central.

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Sand Valley and Lake Arrowhead are awesome.

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Yeah Sand Valley is a thing. I just ate at Lake Arrowhead a month ago, andI am not a golfer. I do not eat up that way much. I am 20 minutes from those.

It is a fabulous area once you get out and go from a fun, shitty dive bar, and then hit a top notch place like Ishlana (and everything in between). The best deep dish pizza is at a place called Romano’s near Sand Valley. Better than Lou’s.

I am doing a big UTV ride Saturday. So much fun outdoor stuff here.

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Yes it is.

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I still say the pizza at the gas station next to the marina is great hangover faire Dennis.

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Pizza’s not an issue up here. There are many solid choices, both Spot in the Woods and Dellwood are great.

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Christianos too, although in this year of the Great Resignation they may have taken a step backward.

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"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

I've never played Sand Valley but have played Lake Arrowhead MANY times. For some sick reason I prefer the Lakes course.

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