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 Post subject: Re: Joey Meyer
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This guy sucked. He would have never even coached an 8th grade team if it wasn't for his father

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Good lord, just saw a recent photo of him that GN posted. He looked like he was 90.

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Meyer
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Very saddened to see this news. I was a big DePaul fanatic back in the late 80’s-early 90’s, really enjoyed the booth-Stephen Howard teams and the kleinschmidt years too. I remember the buzz and excitement when Joey Meyer visited my school (Crystal Lake Central) to watch Bill Heppner play when playing hoops at DePaul was still a big deal.


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 Post subject: Re: Joey Meyer
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You guys are pretty mean. He lived the life he was given in an honest way. RIP.

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Meyer
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20 years younger than his dad. Was he ill?

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Meyer
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You guys are pretty mean. He lived the life he was given in an honest way. RIP.



And today's DePaul would kill to have teams as good as most of his.

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Meyer
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Does strike me as a guy who had a strange coaching career. Never understood why he didn't pursue a mid major job after DePaul fired him. I'm sure he could have at least been hired at a MAC or Missouri Valley type school.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
pittmike wrote:
You guys are pretty mean. He lived the life he was given in an honest way. RIP.



And today's DePaul would kill to have teams as good as most of his.


I don't get all the hate for him. He consistently produced winning seasons at DePaul. No one has been able to do that since he got canned.

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Meyer
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Tall Midget wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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You guys are pretty mean. He lived the life he was given in an honest way. RIP.



And today's DePaul would kill to have teams as good as most of his.


I don't get all the hate for him. He consistently produced winning seasons at DePaul. No one has been able to do that since he got canned.

Yep my thoughts as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Meyer
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RFDC wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
pittmike wrote:
You guys are pretty mean. He lived the life he was given in an honest way. RIP.



And today's DePaul would kill to have teams as good as most of his.


I don't get all the hate for him. He consistently produced winning seasons at DePaul. No one has been able to do that since he got canned.

Yep my thoughts as well.


He wasn't his father. Also, you don't think his success was in large part based on the reputation his father built at DePaul? I understand that he had more success than everyone who followed him, but that is, to a large extent, based on the condition in which he left the program.


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 Post subject: Re: Joey Meyer
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Warren Newson wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
pittmike wrote:
You guys are pretty mean. He lived the life he was given in an honest way. RIP.



And today's DePaul would kill to have teams as good as most of his.


I don't get all the hate for him. He consistently produced winning seasons at DePaul. No one has been able to do that since he got canned.

Yep my thoughts as well.


He wasn't his father. Also, you don't think his success was in large part based on the reputation his father built at DePaul? I understand that he had more success than everyone who followed him, but that is, to a large extent, based on the condition in which he left the program.

No one was going to be his father. That is a given. Sure his success was built on the previous coach. Just like Roy Williams success was built upon the work of Dean Smith. Bill Selfs success was built upon the work of Roy Williams. Etc, etc.

Joey Meyer was a solid coach who kept things going in a fairly good manner at Depaul, that which no one else has been able to do.

No need to talk bad of the guy now that he has died.

He was a solid coach, and from all reports a super guy.

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Meyer
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RFDC wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
pittmike wrote:
You guys are pretty mean. He lived the life he was given in an honest way. RIP.



And today's DePaul would kill to have teams as good as most of his.


I don't get all the hate for him. He consistently produced winning seasons at DePaul. No one has been able to do that since he got canned.

Yep my thoughts as well.


He wasn't his father. Also, you don't think his success was in large part based on the reputation his father built at DePaul? I understand that he had more success than everyone who followed him, but that is, to a large extent, based on the condition in which he left the program.

No one was going to be his father. That is a given. Sure his success was built on the previous coach. Just like Roy Williams success was built upon the work of Dean Smith. Bill Selfs success was built upon the work of Roy Williams. Etc, etc.

Joey Meyer was a solid coach who kept things going in a fairly good manner at Depaul, that which no one else has been able to do.

No need to talk bad of the guy now that he has died.

He was a solid coach, and from all reports a super guy.


You're right, speaking ill of the dead is bad form. I don't dispute that. What I do dispute is this notion that Joey Meyer was somehow good for DePaul basketball. He took a program that was a national power and turned it into something that wasn't even a regional power. Roy Williams and Bill Self maintained or improved their programs, Joey Meyer did the exact opposite.

Also, I didn't create the "idiot son" quip. That is something that was often said by a family friend who coached high school basketball in the city and went on to have a career in the NBA. Therefore, there's some debate amongst basketball people concerning Joey Meyer's skills as a coach.


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I know someone who worked as his assistant coach in the 90's. He told me that Depaul's AD at the time and Joey Meyer weren't on speaking terms and it greatly hindered his ability to recruit players. He also stated that Meyer wasn't willing to "play the game" that other schools played when it came to paying for kids. We talked about how odd that was considering that Joey Meyer was his father's lead recruiter when he was coach and as such understood perfectly how the game was supposed to be played if you were going to win.

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Meyer
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 Post subject: Re: Joey Meyer
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RIP, I started going to DePaul around the same time he was let go. Wasn't there a story about his trouble recruiting from Chicago's high school pipeline? I remember something about him not wanting to engage with high school coaches because of potentially shady dealings. Or maybe he was just awkward. After they got rid of Joey, they hired Pat Kennedy who was apparently really shady. After that, DePaul was never really competitive again. Its too bad because his dad put DePaul on the map and now they are completely irrelevant nationally.

Joey, and honesty the whole program, seemed to suffer from several circumstances. The school became mostly commuters in the 80s and 90s, so most of the students stopped caring about basketball. When I went to games out in Rosemont, the majority of the crowd were older alumni. What on-campus student wants to board a bus in the winter when it could be 1-2 hours each way between campus and Rosemont? DePaul was also planning to buy land over by Cabrini in the early 90's to build a stadium closer to the school, but it fell through. Not having a football team also presents financial challenges.

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RIP, I started going to DePaul around the same time he was let go. Wasn't there a story about his trouble recruiting from Chicago's high school pipeline? I remember something about him not wanting to engage with high school coaches because of potentially shady dealings. Or maybe he was just awkward. After they got rid of Joey, they hired Pat Kennedy who was apparently really shady. After that, DePaul was never really competitive again. Its too bad because his dad put DePaul on the map and now they are completely irrelevant nationally.

Joey, and honesty the whole program, seemed to suffer from several circumstances. The school became mostly commuters in the 80s and 90s, so most of the students stopped caring about basketball. When I went to games out in Rosemont, the majority of the crowd were older alumni. What on-campus student wants to board a bus in the winter when it could be 1-2 hours each way between campus and Rosemont? DePaul was also planning to buy land over by Cabrini in the early 90's to build a stadium closer to the school, but it fell through. Not having a football team also presents financial challenges.


Sonny Cox stated that DePaul would never be able to recruit King or Chicago in general for what they "allegedly" did to Teddy Grubbs back when he attended but that wasn't true. They signed Ronnie Fields and a few other Chicago guys around the time he made the claim.
I do believe that there was a reluctance to pay players however. And eventually that costs him. All of the big time programs engaged in the stuff, making tough for DePaul to compete year in and year out.

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 Post subject: Re: Joey Meyer
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He had some pretty nice talent during his years. It might not have been Aguirre/TC level but he had enough to compete. He made 8 ncaa in 9 years. Imagine if De Paul did that today.

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He had some pretty nice talent during his years. It might not have been Aguirre/TC level but he had enough to compete. He made 8 ncaa in 9 years. Imagine if De Paul did that today.


He was fired after not making it his last five years and last two years were similar to current Depaul teams. You would think with being able to openly but players now they would be better.

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What was cause of death?


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What was cause of death?

I think he had cancer Mike. I haven’t seen anything from family members saying that made him turn into a intractable shitheel but who knows?

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Wait, what does turn you into an intractable shitheel then?

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He had some pretty nice talent during his years. It might not have been Aguirre/TC level but he had enough to compete. He made 8 ncaa in 9 years. Imagine if De Paul did that today.


He was fired after not making it his last five years and last two years were similar to current Depaul teams. You would think with being able to openly but players now they would be better.


He had definitely come to the end of the run but that seems to define him for some, rather than balancing the entirety of his career

At the very least, in a world of scumbag charlatans, he seemed to be a good person.

My friends had some funny stories about an early 20s Joey when they were at Ray Meyer's baskteball camp. It was a week long sleep away camp in Wisconsin.

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