Is it wrong that I laughed while reading this?

Wrong board.

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You know me like that.

How appropriate this occurred on 4th of July weekend. I'd rather die on my Harley than live on my knees.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I'll admit, I laughed.

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I laughed.

I guess that this demonstration has a "mission failed" attached to it.

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Bernstein posted this yesterday on his twitter. What are motorcyclists argument against wearing a helmet? Vision impaired? Helmet hair? Doesn't look cool?

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Team Cutler.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I hope this guys family is comforted by the fact that he stood up to the government who was only trying to save his life. He should be applauded for fighting against the insane government oppression known as "Hey idiot, put a helmet on your head so there is at least something between you and the hard pavement". In honor of this man, I'm going buy a tiger and store it in my house without a cage. Stupid government! Don't tell me that I can't get eaten by a tiger! I'd rather die on my bed while trying to sleep being eaten by a tiger than live on my knees!

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
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Satirism is only effective if it speaks to the issue it's addressing. I dont think you understood what jorr was saying Rick

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I guess not. I assumed it was some sort of "government shouldn't tell me what to do" stance.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Sorta. Not really the government specifically though.

At what point do you think the government should stop telling people what to do and start letting people, like this guy, live how they want to and deal with the consequences of their decisions?

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

You're about to get the "Cost to the Government" explaination. Apparently, it costs millions to scrape people off the road.

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When the "safety" far outweighs the "loss of freedom". For instance, if one one side you have "feeling the wind in your hair" vs. "not getting your head smashed in and subjecting EMT's, nurses, doctors, and witnesses to your gory death" then I side with helmet laws. It's the same with seat belt laws. I don't feel that it is my right to not wear a seat belt. We didn't fight the British for the right to do something incredibly stupid for no good reason.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Using that rationale, the government immediately needs to outlaw smoking cigarettes and liqour outright.

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Right but why not ban motorcycles then? Certainly there are safer, more efficient means of transportation. Come to think of it, there's a ton of unsafe drivers out there. Too many of them are too young, high, drunk, distracted with their phones and iPods and toys, carrying on a conversation, changing music, or just generally stupid. We should just have official bus and taxi drivers and that's it

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

The difference is that you are losing your right to actually do something there. If they did that, I couldn't legally drink or smoke. Helmet and seatbelt laws only limit your ability to not wear a helmet or a seat belt. You can still ride a motorcycle. You can still sit in or drive a car. The better example is how you can't have an open container in a car. That isn't taking away your right to drink. It's taking away your right to drink in one specific circumstance.

It's not taking away your right by requiring you to do something safer.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

That's actually taking away rights though. Taking away the right to drive a motorcycle is significantly bigger than taking away the right to feel the wind in your hair while driving a motorcycle.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Don't forget fireworks, guns, knives, any heavy equipment, most over the counter medication, and shoelaces

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

How so? Who says?

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Don't change your argument mid stream my friend.

Your post:
When the "safety" far outweighs the "loss of freedom". For instance, if one one side you have "feeling the wind in your hair" vs. "not getting your head smashed in and subjecting EMT's, nurses, doctors, and witnesses to your gory death" then I side with helmet laws. It's the same with seat belt laws. I don't feel that it is my right to not wear a seat belt. We didn't fight the British for the right to do something incredibly stupid for no good reason.

I speak from experience when I say this... watching someone die of lung cancer is as gory a death as a smashed head and instead of going overnight or in a day or two your whole family, doctors, nurses, hospice personel, they all have to watch you wither away and die a shitty death begging for breath and shitting all over yourself.
If you side with safety over rights to do something stupid, my opinion is that you can't pick and choose the sexy ones. You're in or you're out as my old man would say.

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If you take an action, and ban it completely, it is taking away your complete right to do that. If you take an action, and make one relatively small regulation about it, it is not taking away your complete right to do that. By that logic, banning it completely is infringing on your rights more.

Helmet laws only prohibit riding a motorcycle without a helmet and likely would be a small fine. Banning motorcycles would likely make the sale illegal and make it impossible to ride one with or without.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Think of the Motorcycle ban as simply banning doorless two wheeled vehicles and not your right to operate a motor vehicle on the public way.

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I get what you are saying buy I still don't think it changes what me and Darko are saying. It's still the government micromanaging it's citizens lives. We have like 10,000 too many laws and regulations already. At some point you just have to say fuck it and let dumb people die by their dumbness, and stop fucking with the ones who aren't stupid enough to kill themselves

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Cigarettes and booze make money. Motorcycle helmets do not in comparison.

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That's not a change at all. The benefit(wind in hair) is not worth the cost.
What don't you understand? I'm not for banning of motorcycles. If you could somehow make smoking significantly safer with only very minor loss of benefits I'd be all for it too. Let's say that someone invented a filter for cigarettes that cut down the chance of cancer by 50% but it burned at a slightly faster rate so it didn't last as long. I'd be all for the government mandating it's use. It's just not worth the cost to have such a minor benefit.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I don't think "wind in the hair" is an honest assessment of the benefit, sir.


You're too willing, in my opinion, to be told how to live your life by some anonymous jerk who has never met you, yet knows how you need to live.

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Ok. I just did. I still think motorcycles should be legal.Like this guy? I am 99% sure that if this guy could come back and do it again that he would wear a helmet when he left for that day. I believe that it is the governments job for them to do what is best for the people while not infringing on the rights of the people. That's why they can allow dangerous activities while putting some sort of safety precautions in there. They choose to infringe on the right to feel the wind in your hair vs. the right to ride a motorcycle.

If people don't like it, they vote them out but when you really think about it motorcycle helmet laws make perfect sense given what is being given up.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!