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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:03 pm 
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No more "Recession Specials," neon lights and cheap bites washed down with papaya juice: New York has lost one of its most iconic hot-dog joints after three decades.

"Gray's Papaya" in Greenwich Village, a reputed favorite of late rocker Lou Reed, has fallen victim to the near daily roll call of New York institutions crushed by exorbitant rent increases.

Shops, bars, cafes and restaurants that for generations are considered integral to the world's most exciting city suddenly disappear overnight, no longer able to pay the rent.

"I'll miss getting those hot dogs at midnight," jobbing actor Peter Coleman, 28, told AFP in a nearby bar, waxing lyrical about the shuttered premises on Sixth Avenue and 8th Street.

"It's sad to see another neighborhood staple go the way of Ray's Pizza," said Coleman, who works in the neighborhood and still misses the beloved pizzeria that closed a few years ago.

Famous for its "recession special" -- two hot dogs and a medium soda for $4.95 -- Gray's Papaya was a veteran culinary landmark.

Kids, late-night drinkers, clubbers and the homeless counting out their last coins came for a dog and the legendary papaya drink "made from the magical melons of the tropics".

They flocked to the 24-seven joint, as much for its food as its quirky decor -- paper-mache fruit hanging from the ceiling and its witty ads: "If you're hungry, or broke or just in a hurry".

Another fan, filmmaker Ashbey Riley, paid tribute in an emotional blog on the Huffington Post.

"I can hardly remember the first time my father took me there. I must have been about three. It doesn't matter really. Gray's became an everlasting part of my life," she wrote.

"Gray's has always been there through every phase. Gray's was enduring, never changing, always dependable, forever delicious and conveniently, Gray's was always open," she added.

Tourists came for a genuine taste of the Big Apple.

The place featured on the small and silver screen in among others "Sex and the City," "How I Met Your Mother," and the 1998 rom-com "You've Got Mail" with Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks.

Owner Nicholas Gray confirmed the reason for the closure was the sharp increase in renewing the lease.

"They wanted to raise my rent to $50,000 from $30,000," he was quoted as saying in the local media.

Employees and the manager of Gray's remaining branch, away from the Manhattan bar scene on the Upper West Side, declined comment.

Journalist Jeremiah Moss who has written for The New Yorker, Playboy and the Paris Review, has cataloged rent casualties on his blog "Jeremiah's Vanishing New York" since 2001.

Moss blames much of the loss of "6,926 years of history" on billionaire mayor Michael Bloomberg, who left office in January after 12 years of rising inequality and booming property prices.

"It's been 12 merciless years of destruction and loss, from 'significant' losses to countless 'smaller' ones -- neighborhood laundromats, shoe repair shops, drugstores," Moss wrote.

Besides "Gray's Papaya" 2014 has already seen the loss of a clutch of other businesses, including the "Famous Oyster Bar", which shuttered after 55 years Seventh Avenue and 54th Street.

It put up a sign saying that it was closing "due to exorbitant rent prices". The owner was quoted as saying that four years ago the rent was $12,000 and now it's more than $30,000.

Another was well-known clothing store "Camouflage" in uber-chic Chelsea, kicked onto the kerb after 38 years when the rent more than tripled from $7,000 to $24,000 a month.

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NYC is so weird with their rent. You have apartments that people have to buy and mortgage to pay a controlled low rent or some shit?

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pittmike wrote:
NYC is so weird with their rent. You have apartments that people have to buy and mortgage to pay a controlled low rent or some shit?


Still sad when places like this go away....

Very few good hot dog places left around here as well. Something that used to be no big deal, now is like a rare species.

I stopped into MANGIS today. Was starving, drove through trader joes parking lot, too crowded, pulled on to Lincoln and ran into this place. Have been there in 8-10 years. Same 2 guys behind the counter. Nobody in there. Paneling from 1965, posters from 1966! These guys are sold old they can barely move, but everything was in perfect order. Down to the pickles, laid out, fresh cut in the bin, tomatoes aligned like playing cards, guy toasts the bun on the flat top, puts the vienna dog on the grill, poppy seed bun. OK the fries sucked and I think they counted out 24 of them when served, but this is a place that is on its last legs.

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should be a RIP hot dog stand thread. sad state of affairs.

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Murphys is still good, but REAL expensive.

Weiner circle still might be the best,

As a YUTE, I worked at Irvings in Wilmette, always had a soft place for the dog stand....

Mr Jordan would stop in!

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Ever been to a Nicky's? Mostly along Archer, Kedzie, etc...

I still never been to Hot Doug's. Need to check that out and get yelled at.

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NYC hot dogs are pretty terrible though.

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A decent hot dog should not be that hard, yet a lot of people fuck it up.

Chopped tomato? GTFO.

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Bennigan's in the Loop met the same fate recently, due to the building owners jacking the rent up ~300%. Now it, as well as the other businesses that occupied the 1st floor are going to be a Walgreen's.


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Colonel Angus wrote:
Bennigan's in the Loop met the same fate recently, due to the building owners jacking the rent up ~300%. Now it, as well as the other businesses that occupied the 1st floor are going to be a Walgreen's.
At least the food will be better.

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Colonel Angus wrote:
Bennigan's in the Loop met the same fate recently, due to the building owners jacking the rent up ~300%. Now it, as well as the other businesses that occupied the 1st floor are going to be a Walgreen's.

Bennigans?

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:aaargh:


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Colonel Angus wrote:
bigfan wrote:
Colonel Angus wrote:
Bennigan's in the Loop met the same fate recently, due to the building owners jacking the rent up ~300%. Now it, as well as the other businesses that occupied the 1st floor are going to be a Walgreen's.

Bennigans?

http://bennigans.com/


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Hatchetman wrote:
A decent hot dog should not be that hard, yet a lot of people fuck it up.


yeah no kidding.

There was a place that opened up down here a couple years back that was supposedly ran by a couple that had moved from Chicago. They advertised having real Chicago hot dogs. I tried it. Disgusting. I think they got the cheapest hot dogs they could find from Walmart and it tasted like they microwaved em.

No surprise the next time I drove by they were closing down.

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 Post subject: Re: Grays Papaya
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I know Vienna would ship anywhere. I would imagine they arent the cheapest hot dog, but if the cheaper ones are .10 less each, but you dont sell any????

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I hate to admit this, but I passed on the opportunities to eat there I've had (even at 4 am) & about 2-3 months ago decided that it would be a must stop destination when I go to the city this summer. It would be like not experiencing the "Original Jim's" in it's old spot in....um....on.....Maxwell St.

(and not seeing the guys selling bootleg porn & tube socks :lol: )

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Hatchetman wrote:
should be a RIP hot dog stand thread.


The Plush Pup on Cumberland. Thankfully, Gene & Jude's is a quick drive.

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The Plush Pup on Cumberland.


About a dozen years ago, I used to work for a company that did a lot of work in the Norridge/Harwood Heights area. We grabbed lunch there many times.

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