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Jeffrey M. Leving is trying to put a stop to that...

Im not poverty stricken (Lets post our W-2s) and I dont want anything for free. Your more obsessed with MAC than anyone you mentioned...which is why you spend so much time talking about him.

Youre a loser and you know it...thats gotta hurt.

Post up chump.

You are pathetic.

I made a little less than 50 Million last year...I am not poverty stricken.

You are a loser. Goodday Sir

Yeah MAC wouldnt roll out of bed for 5 times what I made last year...fuck him...Im gonna make my avatar an unflattering picture of MAC...thatll show him

Gloopan - it wasn't anything personal - I just wondered why someone who professes so much animosity and venom toward one person would spend so much time hanging out in the areas where this person posts - you never answered that question by the way. For me, if I don't like someone or something, I tend to steer clear from it.

I will make no apologies for being a fan of Mac. I also make no apologies for being a fan of Stern, Brandmier, Mathews, B&B, etc. Do I defend the things that I enjoy listening to? Sure, just like anyone else that is a fan of AC/DC or Aerosmith or Barry Manilow - it doesn't matter what you like, but you still take it defensively when someone comes out and trashes it with no reason for the trashing. If that makes me an ass licker, so be it.

On to Beebo's question and I feel it is a good one. I think Podcasting is the next big thing and the way of Chicago local broadcasting is holding on as tight as it can. With the next generation being IPod and internet driven, it's only a matter of time before automotive technology catches up and begins installing IPOD and Internet driven radio programs/formats into new vehicles - we are already seeing the beginnings of that now - Sirius, XM, bluetooth, etc.

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

RPB - don't sink to Gloopan's level. It is the equivalent of us Cubs fans throwing out attendance numbers in Cubs/Sox rivalry - it's beneath us.

To equate fans of Mac or anyone else for that matter with poverty levels is ludicrous. I don't need to dignify how much I made last year in order to distinguish myself as a poster of any value. Just to be honest though, I will tell you that I am probably upper middle class income wise, which puts me and my family right smack dab in the middle of everyone else.

It's a shame we can't have an intelligent conversation and get to the root of your hatred for Mac without vague generalities and stereotypes making their way into the conversation on your side...

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

your right dave...ill edit my post

What's the record for thread hijacks? Not that I mind, I hijacked this one, too. But I'm just wondering. We're at 4 in two pages! Hoo-hoo!

Hey, SID, have you thoughts for the table, regards future of radio/future of Mac/future of futures...

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It's like slowing down to see a car wreck.

I find it amazing that a douche blowhard like Mac has made as much as he has. That's a big part of it.

I find it interesting that he posts here to feed his massive ego.

And I like busting balls, so this all works for me.

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Beebo, I read with interest your thoughts on the future direction radio may go.

I believe local radio will always have an important place in this
1) It's free 2) ease of access in homes, autos and portables. 3) advertising.

That being said, it is hard for stations to really compete for the hardcore fans of sports, music, and talk without sacrificing the numbers advertisers seek. Satellite radio offers far more channels with very specific topics, especially for sports, music, news and political talk fans. However, they face a lack of ad dollars to pay for some of the high priced talent.
The internet offers some interesting ways to hit target audiences, but is there any money in it? Much of it seems like Wayne's World type shows.
Streaming of an established show has great potential to widen audiences for the established shows without additional costs but without much additonal revenue either.

It just looks to me that the economics have changed dramatically and the days of big money to hosts is about done. The ones that will get big money are the ones who own their own content and distribution. The internet is an extremely deflationary distribution source. Look what it has done to the news media, especially newspapers.

GK - Appreciate your honesty and it helps me to understand where you are coming from.

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

Well thought out and logical answer. Can't say I disagree with any of your thoughts.

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

I don't require hate to have a reason when it comes by for a visit. I simply welcome it in with open arms.

E-mails allow for major editing of opinions by the on air talent. Even subtle and unintended editings (like pace or inflection) can change the intent of the e-mailer. Think about how many times the intent of a post has been misinterpreted on this site.

Besides, I like to hear crazy. It is not as much fun to read. I loved Brad Pitt's character in 12 Monkeys. It would suck to have to read it.

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Not sure what you mean. If you mean that's a problem with a podcast, I totally agree. You can always do a live stream and take calls live. If Mac is so popular and should be paid more then 50k then he could certainly get enough advertisers and would be able to afford the extra phone line and equipment needed.

It's interesting because there's this notion of reinventing phones, radio, & TV to all be wireless and requiring a computer. As I'm not a fan of cell phones and subsequent digital offerings, I've been heavily amused by how everyone was willing to take a "hit" on line quality for the portable phone.

But that being said, it's happened, and now a generation would rather have a cell for all calls than running a land line.

The iTunes/Walkman thing to me is a plus-plus: I use neither, but I understand the want to buy/download/steal only the songs you want, without dealing with the rest of crappy album(s). And having your personal "mix" of tunes. I did the same thing, sort of, with my cassette recorder. Got rid of a lot of record stores (all of?) and has pounded your top-whatever programming.

Radio and TV has always been held as a precious commodity, both by governments' control of same, and the high cost of transmitters, etc. I don't necessarily just mean the US. Other countries have nationalized stations, with some privatized offerings here and there.

Satellite radio to me is a very niche market. Until someone sells me a boombox I can put on my desk and play while I work, its for cars and long distance drivers. (I might be wrong there, please push back you Sirius/Xm customers.) Personally I think their window for growth is coming to a close.

If someone could guarantee and/or provide a "known" web address for audio/video programming on the web, then I think things will take off. Consider: how many of you were actively searching for ads to play, funny/cute videos, old music clips from the 60s-70s until there was YouTube? How many of you cruise the site looking for good/fun stuff to view?

I'm not saying it's happening today, but I believe its happening soon. This economy has messed with the timing, but maybe not as much as you think.

Anyway, if I were a host-type, would I kill myself to get back into radio, to fight the villainy of podcasts and the like, or would I look at alternative venues? There's sure been a lot of beheadings in the past... 2 years...? And more to come in the radio biz.

(Thinking this through, I next asked myself why there are network affiliates of NBC, Fox et al, and came up with, "so they can do local news." Because, you know, they all run the same rerun shows. Find someone with a satellite that gets ALL markets' local channels, and you see what I mean. Pssh, how much of the local news can be subcontracted out?)

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As far as satellite, I agree with you about their dimming future. However, I have XM and have headphones and a speaker box in the home, just like Ipod has.
Youtube is wildly popular, but not profitable. So in order to have web radio become financially viable, you need advertising and at big rates, which seems to me takes away from the reason to have it. It maybe the future, but until someone makes good money doing it, it will remain what it is- an interesting, but no really profitable idea.
As I said above, the internet is a deflationary item and it tends to destroy the medium it goes after. CD sales, newspapers, classified ads,... why pay when so much is free? Radio will be no different, ad rates will NEVER equal what radio charged and can no longer charge. Look, your major advertisers are all having huge financial problems and have trimmed/slashed their ad budgets. Many will no longer exist, just who is going to buy ads on internet radio, David Spada? He surely doesn't pay what Bud paid to sponsor ads, events, teams and whatever.

Ah, I am a pud, then.


Guys I work with have moved their TV ad budget to radio. On the other hand, others say that radio ad expenditures have gone down dramatically. My opinion is, most radio ads are a waste of time. I did a little test this morning, listening to newsradio 78: listen to an ad, wait two seconds: try to recap to myself what they said. The ads failed. Obviously, the economy isn't so bad as to demand coherent ads. Until then, they might as well send me cash as to put crap ads on.

Bud Their ad budget transcends stupidity. If I wanted a brew, it'd have nothing to do with where those guys are throwing their money to, which brand I'd choose.

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I agree with you about the impact of ads, but radio, tv and web radio have to make money and the only way is by selling advertising. I also think ad rates are coming down because of the choices out there. The fragmentation of the market, through the various alternative means of listening has driven down the price.

I truly think that any out of work host would be smart to take what they can and work to broaden the scope of the job to include alternative methods of delivering the product to produce more revenues. If you don't bring in significantly more revenue than you cost, there is no need for you, no matter how popular the host is.

Agreed.

I thought when they lined up B&B against MJH, that it was a scorched earth tactic. Little did I suspect that Mac would be the scorched.

Never minding Carm, doesn't the surviving MJH'ers remind you of the Jordanaires?

Wait, this isn't the random sequiter thread. Sorry.

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Here's an interesting article relating to ad spending

http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=135115

We will find out soon about web radio, a whole local cast joining North

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/ ... siness.com

If it were North alone, I'd write it off, much like that restaurant show he did. Chet and Hood are known quantities, and Webby has sounded good on his outings. Whether Chet will attract listeners is a question, but should he not,there's a bench of talent out there.

Hah! A Dan McNeil with a Chet. Just from a style contrast angle, that would be interesting.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Independent web shows need advertising more than streaming ESPN, score shows do. NDHS doesn't have enough money to support north. This thing will have a fairly short shelf life.