I don't think it's that simple, BR. If I could just simply take drugs for "a year" to make 10 million that's one thing, but it doens't really work like that does it? Keep your strawman, not interested.

I love the BIG SCREEN comment, well done. No, I watch on a 36 inch Sanyo. Maybe I'll understand better when I save up enough for that 60 inch 1080p jobber. I could use the Credit card but I hate debt.
One, dude, I doubt you really believe that. Not that I haven't heard you say that before, but come one man. You think they SHOULD allow it in the NFL? you think they should encourage people taking steroids that is KNOWN to have serious long term health effects so we can be entertained by bulkier bodies? That's ridiculous. Football is hard enough on the body as it is, former football player die younger than other pro athletes already.
If your life is nutrition and working out, you can achieve the results you see on some of these players. Some are enhanced to be sure, but legalizing will cost some lives. Entertainment ain't worth that.


You sure could say that. If you were a simpleton.
Drinking to excess on occasion has no negative health effects, at least in terms of dying young and or in a rage leaving dead family members behind. Unless of course you're mental to begin with and you drunk rage but then the underlying mental problems would be the root cause wouldn't they?
And weed, dude, I don't think that people are dying young because of weed. Your argument is silly to me.


That's because you don't know what you're talking about either.


Perhaps alcohol, but pot ain't gonna hurt you unless you smoke an ounce a day for 60 years. Excessive use of pot is nearly impossible. It would also be unrelated to the actual topic we were trying to discuss, whether Mac's claim that he would encourage use of steroids in sports is genuine, or just a strong opinion voiced for the purpose of getting posters and the lsiteners riled up. We should also mention Mac's big screen(s) again. high def big screens that is.



Once again, there is SIGNIFICANT degree of difference between taking steroids long enought to get big, get the job, stay good long enough to get that big contract is different from smoking some pot on weekends. You don't take steroids for "a year to get the big contract". contracts are payment in the future for achievements in the past. You need to be roided for a little longer than a year.

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You probably would. Many medical authorities would not agree.
You're getting more dangerous elements in your lungs walking behind your lawnmower than you're getting from a doobie.

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Because nobody has never choked on thier own vomit in thier sleep while drunk? Drinking to excess "on occasion" has no adverse effects on your liver, heart, and kidneys?

Hello, Mr. Simpleton.

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yeah, happens all the time

Holy fuck are you serious? Frank that is stupid.
Do people also kill themselves cleaning out the gutters by falling off the roof?
Should they not do that since it's a health risk?
We're not talking about the one in a million guy nwho got drunk enough to choke on his own vomit here dipshit, we're talking about long term abuse.
Christ man, what the hell were you thinking?

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Wow darko - a lot of words. I'm not gonna cut/paste to show you all of the times you contradict yourself in there and jump to random conclusions out of nowhere.

So, smoke in your lungs (what, your 3rd most valuable organs, give or take?) is good for you? Unfiltered smoke even more right? Please. I'm not arguing morality, chemical effects, etc. Repeated smoking of anything leads to lung cancer, etc.

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Bullshit. Because the long term effects of one doobie can lead to excessive consumption of cheetos or ding dongs, or more ghastly, the Baconator. All a lawnmower can do is cut your foot off.

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That would be true if I mowed my lawn indoors.

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Ive heard conflicting reports on that. What did he die of?

I didn't say that smoking pot wasn't harmful. I'm saying that it is considerably less harmful, even in the long term, than using steroids. I'm saying you expose yourself to more carcinogens by mowing the lawn than you do my smoking a couple hitters. My point is that pot smoking does not have the Long Term dangers that steroid use does.

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which, like the Beatles in Help, I do.

HGH has shown some life sustaining results, btw...

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One hour of lawnmower = 100 miles of driving in terms of pollutants. It's being pumped right at you. Do you think you're not inhaling that?

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and it's unfiltered too!

No, this started as a short term user to make a that big/next contract. You are turning this into a long term abuser because it fits your argument. THere is no question that a long time steriod user is a lot worse off than the guy who smokes a few times a month or drinks a 6 pack a week. But the that same guy who has a 6 pack on the weekends for a long time is a lot worse off than somebody who uses steriods for a short period of time. And in this case, he also has a lot less money.


And I use an electric mower.

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Yes, I'm inhaling it. Given the physiology of how the human lungs work and the fact that I am outside while breathing it and my lips are not directly attached to the exhaust pipe in order to form a seal, the fumes are only a small portion of what I breathe in with each inhalation.

The negative effects of this would be compounded if I was a smoker in addition to a mower.

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Lyle Alzado was convinced that his brain tumor was caused by steroids. It was a steroid that wasn't linked to steroid use but weakened immune systems.

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/07/04/sports/football-alzado-tumor-is-rare-and-deadly.html
According to this article, steroids can cause a weakened immune system but not the kind of steroids he admitted to taking.

It's possible that the steroids he took weakened his immune system but you can't just link two things together because of a weak connection between the generic term "steroids" and this type of tumor.

He probably was just unlucky.

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I need a joint. This thread sucks.

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My point is that I think the short term user to get that big contract is a myth.
You don't get big and get paid like *snap* that. Pro athletes get paid in the furure based on past performance (of course with the notable exception of the guy who gets paid before proving anything like say Ced Ben to the Bears, but we're not talking about those guys). This means you have to take long enough to get big, then stay big long enough to amass stats that would get you paid.
Also, your point on the 6 pack on the weekends guy doing more damage than a short term steroid user is debatelble. You dont' know how much damage either does.
Good for your electric mower! Glad to hear you're not contributing to the pollution problem!

I think we're making a huge mistake here by basically euqating the damage a pot smoker does with the amount of damage a cigarette smoker does. I would agree that cigarette smokers are doing harm to their family in the long term. that's why I quit the habit when I got engaged.

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The biggest difference in the amount of "damage" the two different kinds of smoke cause would be a result of frequency. Not a lot of pot smokers that can keep up a "pack a day" habit.

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We certainly try.

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Placing restrictions on where and when certain behaviors are allowed doesn't make one a "morality policeman." I personally don't care if someone gets roaring drunk in the privacy of their own home, but I would prefer someone NOT show up to drive my kid's school bus in that condition. I enjoy watching competitive athletic contests and would also prefer that the athletes follow not only the rules of the game, but federal law, when participating in said contests.

I think it's fair to say:
Comedians/rock stars do a fair amount of illegal drugs to enhance the 'creative process'.
Actors and TV anchormen/women 'cheat' by getting plastic surgery.
And athletes and coaches do whatever it takes to get a competitive edge.

Do you really think Jan Stenerud or Tom Dempsey had pecs like Jeff Reed:



And when did Reed morph into Paulie Shore?

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the best bet would be to stop cutting your grass and create a wetland style rain garden in your yard....you could grow hydro.

interesting that steroids 'cause' cancer but they give you steroids to help you fight the side effects from surgery and from chemo.
the chemo used to battle the cancer....hmmm.
the circle of life!!!

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