That CTE thing real for you?

I think that's wrong. I thought most of us agreed they didn't actually know what the fuck they were talking about when it comes to the NBA. That was always my biggest issue with them. Bernstein knows basketball, but doesnt really know anything about the NBA or is always months late on a story or player. I think he found out Donovan Mitchell was good like 2 weeks ago.

How, exactly? I thought the "if you don't like out-of-town NBA talk, it's really about not being an NBA fan" was cute, but still missing the ultimate point that you can be an NBA fan (or a Bulls fan), but not one to the point where you want your local sports-talk station to spend a segment or two (AND BRING ON A GUEST!) to discuss the Jazz-Clippers series or a mid-season Rockets-Spurs matchup. This mindset is not incongruous with being an NFL fan to the point where you will gladly listen to your local guys discuss the absurdity of the Giants trading Odell Beckham Jr.

As per usual, LTG's claims of hypocrisy are misguided at best. Real hypocrisy would be people lambasting the former B&G show for talking about the Bulls nonstop and then claiming that their disdain was really about OOT NBA discussion, when in reality ANY discussion of basketball topics drew their ire. As I understand the board sentiment, Bernstein and Goff were respected for their basketball, as well as Bulls-specific opinions and analysis. I saw no break in reasoning to the extent LTG (and now you) proclaim there was.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

A little bit of hyperbole on my part but Mac benefits from the relative lack of talent found on the radio in this city. He is cool but his profile is enhanced greatly by the lack of credible sports yakkers to be found here.

As per usual you are simply off. This board complained about B&G talking basketball during the NBA finals after all.

The cover was always the Bulls aint shit so why should anyone want to talk about them?

Fact remains that NBA ratings are way up and Football ratings were way down.

Off season Football talk is PTFB for most people and there is no way that listeners are more interested in it than basketball with the start of the foitball season being 5 months out.

I love the assumption by PittMike and Curious Hair (the guy most obsessed with identity here) that you started this thread because you're black or Goff is black. I'm sure they'll love if you or I accused them of starting a thread or making a statement because they're white. Unbelievable fucking ignorance.

For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.

You make statements like that all the time. You can't have an honest discussion about race without getting angry or calling people fucking stupid. It's why Leash left the board. Why are you so angry?

You make statements like that all the time. You can't have an honest discussion about race without getting angry or calling people fucking stupid. It's why Leash left the board. Why are you so angry?

Yeah, having a guest on and spending multiple segments discussing a conference quarter finals game. That ribbing was well-earned.



I don't recall that being brought up when B&G talked about the Bulls. Maybe when they went a little too Bulls-heavy, but I cannot recall an immediate negative reaction at first blush of Bulls Talk. Maybe you can, but I do not.



Your plausible deniability of "I never said the NBA was more popular than the NFL" aside, the downtrodden NFL ratings still destroy the NBA ratings.

The NBA Finals averaged an 11.3 on ABC in 2017, with a 13.5 for Game 5 (highest of the series). In 2017 the NFL Wild Card Weekend averaged a 16.8, the highest being a 20.4.



You simply have no factual basis to make this claim, despite making it repeatedly.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

You have no factual basis for your claim that OFFSEASON football is of more interest than NBA talk either.

Its interesting that you cite numbers from NFL season when my argument has never been about in season NFL talk. For some strange reason that point keeps getting ignored by you and most of the others pontificating in this thread.

Fact remains that NBA ratings are way up and Football ratings were way down.

If offseason out of town football is so off-putting on radio, then please tell me why the current promos for Larry's show when you stream 670 feature highlights of him talking out of town football and who the Colts should draft next month.

They are literally using out of town offseason football to promote one of their shows. They know what PTFB topics are and clearly this isn't one.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

I cited "numbers from the NFL season" because you referenced "numbers from the NFL season":



What exactly are "off-season football ratings"? Oh, do you mean off-season stuff like the draft? How about when the NFL draft (the NFL off-season, mind you) kicked the crap out of the NBA Playoffs in ratings?

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily- ... l-27-2017/

The NFL Draft did a 2.8 just on ESPN in 2017. The two NBA Playoffs games that night combined for a 1.8. The draft coverage on the NFL Network garnered another 1.0 share.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

The Score's ratings have been in decline for years. One of the reasons may be due to an inability to change with the times.

David Kaplan made his hay in this city as a Basketball coach. As much as he plays up his cubbiness he is a basketball guy at heart.

I don't listen to much sportstalk radio these days but i'm fairly certain that he talks hoops and it isn't hurting his ratings all that much.

The Score is still running the same football centric outfit that they always have run. They reached back into the past hoping to squeeze juice out of a turnip with McNeil and we will see how it goes.


If you think their decline is solely due to Goff you're mistaken. It started long before he began talking about his Range Rover.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

If Football talk is something that people want to hear year round then why have each and every football guy that the Score has trotted out failed miserably save for Jiggetts?. And even Jiggetts functioned more as North's caddy than anything.

The Score has provided tryout after tryout for ex bear players and none of them has been able to break through. Buffone failed as an everyday host. So did Hampton. So did Mannelley. If this town was so thirsty for football talk in the off season then why did Mannelley quit as soon as the Football season concluded?

So ex-athletes make horrible hosts, got it. I don't think anyone argues with that. You're building quite the strawman here.

Are you going to even address the point about M&H? To my knowledge neither of those two guys is an ex-athlete. How about Holmes? He does well in his slots and is very heavy on football talk. Heck, his promos have football talk in March about Colts draft picks.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

If it is all about content then talent should play but a minimal role. If Football is as desired as some here proclaim then who better to provide it than an ex football player? Mannelley left as i remember it because he surmised that people didn't want to hear a show dominated by football during the off season. Either he or his superiors realized this and made the adjustment accordingly.

No, Mannelly left because he realized he's a multi-millionaire who would rather spend his days on the golf course than going to a voice coach to learn to speak into a microphone, then being tied to a television most nights watching sports other than football. He was a monotone, inarticulate, abject failure as a sports-talk talent. Referencing him as a beacon of talent who couldn't make it because too much football talk actually turns people off is improper, at best.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Nice try. He quit as soon as the football season was over. I never said that he was a beacon of talent either. Not surprising that you'd misconstrue the point that i was attempting to make.

The way that talent is continuously juxtaposed with content is really quite impressive.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

LTG schooled basically the entire damn board in this thread. Well done.

Based on your discussions with Rick the same can be said about you.

For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.

Feel free to post all your evidence or continue being the stand up guy you are. You'll always be #2.

You can believe whatever you want. I'm sure it makes you feel good and sleep well at night but it's wrong. Talk to any successful minority and you'll more likely than not hear stories about how they had to work harder and overcome many more obstacles than a white man. Talk to successful women over 50 and you'll hear similar stories. This is reality. It's not groups of people pretending to be victims.

For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.

What are you even arguing anymore? Do you think people are arguing that an iMac just saying "football" into an RE20 will resonate with listeners because, after all, it's football talk?

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

There is no ambiguity and in fact you made my point for me when you asserted that there was a "need for Mannelley to learn a sport other than Football". The operative question is what are you even arguing? You contradicted your entire argument with the statement regarding Mannelley.

You make statements like that all the time. You can't have an honest discussion about race without getting angry or calling people fucking stupid. It's why Leash left the board. Why are you so angry?

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

I have always been a stand up person on facts. I am not a "person of faith" who has a belief system that cannot be challenged such as yourself. Here is an interaction that is by far the most racist claim between anything you or I have said on this board. White people don't work as hard as black people:



This is not based on science. This is you "talking" to a group, then acting like a bully. Well I talked to people and you are wrong asshole is your entire argument when it comes to race.

Because Rick said so? It's laughable.