As the glee gently took hold in the locker room and spilled into the hallway outside, I spoke to Curry and most of his family — his father, the 16-year NBA veteran Dell, his enchanting mother Sonya, his brother and current NBA player Seth, and his resourceful wife Ayesha. I discussed with them a wide range of issues — faith, fatherhood, feminism, and family values — seeking to gauge how they affect Curry and his loved ones.

Second, “ ‘hood” in the coded speech of black identity means “real.” Durant channels what passes for common sense among many blacks: that a “real” black may be the darker one, and the lighter black is suspect and inauthentic because his or her skin reflects symbolic, if not literal, ties to the white world. There would be no light skin if there weren’t white skin in the game — either through the raping of black women on slave plantations, or in less-volatile relations between black men and white women.

Still, the comments of both stars reveal a third suppressed premise of race: that light-skinned players have different — read lesser — athletic ability, the reason in part that Durant and Iverson were both surprised by Curry’s skills.

I am of the belief that it's impossible for a black person in America to be a racist given the history and established structures of the U.S.

Does this "protection" extend to discrimination? As in, can a black guy consciously not hire white people for his business and not be shamed/condemned/litigated for it, or does that somehow not make him a racist?

This is a dangerous road to go down. Obviously, given the history and the numbers, it's not quite the same as saying lighter or whiter people are more capable than darker ones in other endeavors. But this type of thing simply reinforces the racist's belief that there are inherent differences based on skin color, e.g. black people are great at sports and dancing, but you need a white guy to run your company.

Yes, sounds about right.

What's that book that bernstein discovered that gave him support for his barely hidden racist beliefs? I'm sure Curious Hair knows.

I don't really understand what you mean by "protection". We're not writing law here. It only makes him a racist if he's not hiring the white guy because he believes there is some inherent defect in the white guy that makes him a lesser employee. You seem to be confusing and/or conflating prejudice and racism. Many people do.

Maybe it's easier to understand it this way. I have a business partner who is doing 60 years in Menard. He told me he never understood what racism was until he got in there. A place where's he is the minority and all customs, unwritten rules, and structures are not designed for his benefit. Within that environment he couldn't possibly believe he was superior to a black man. Obviously, on the outside it's reversed.

What's that book that bernstein discovered that gave him support for his barely hidden racist beliefs? I'm sure Curious Hair knows.

I don't remember him bringing up any books, by my first guess would have to be Guns, Germs, and Steel.

Oh, it was Watch As Dan Bernstein Will Believe Anything If You Make It Sound Smart, by Dave in Champaign.

If Dan Bernstein inadvertently endorsed a Steve Sailer tract, that'd be pretty funny.

Was it The Sports Gene, by David Epstein?

I don't remember him bringing up any books, by my first guess would have to be Guns, Germs, and Steel.

Think this was it. Here's the thread where we laughed about Dan being a Sailer fan and everything! http://www.score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic ... 24&t=80960

Think this was it. Here's the thread where we laughed about Dan being a Sailer fan and everything! http://www.score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic ... 24&t=80960

I love that book and I was ahead of my time.

Think this was it. Here's the thread where we laughed about Dan being a Sailer fan and everything! http://www.score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic ... 24&t=80960

Oh man, there's a line in that older thread that caught my eye for its WTF-ness, so I searched the board and sure enough, Dan once posited that Venezuelan ballplayers get too fat because they're not black enough and instead have "Incan-Mayan bloodlines" that make them fat.

Does this "protection" extend to discrimination? As in, can a black guy consciously not hire white people for his business and not be shamed/condemned/litigated for it, or does that somehow not make him a racist?

what ever happened to that Dallas Winston guy. Hope he didn't check out on us.

Ah, OK, didn't know you were operating under the classical definition of "racism", instead of the more colloquial usage, whereby the term is inclusive of prejudicial thoughts and actions.