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Author:  Kirkwood [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:15 am ]
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Took him until 9:10 to play it. Actually surprised didn't open the show with it

Author:  Kirkwood [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:24 am ]
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Folding in a defense of LeBron. :lol:

Author:  billypootons [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:25 am ]
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Kirkwood wrote:
Took him until 9:10 to play it. Actually surprised didn't open the show with it


he's probably just mad he has to work with speigal again

Author:  badrogue17 [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:19 am ]
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Kirkwood wrote:
Took him until 9:10 to play it. Actually surprised didn't open the show with it

?? Details? How did the Slapmeister General spin things?

Author:  Chus [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:34 am ]
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Kirkwood wrote:
Took him until 9:10 to play it. Actually surprised didn't open the show with it


It was equally predictable and pathetic.

Author:  Chus [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:36 am ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Took him until 9:10 to play it. Actually surprised didn't open the show with it

?? Details? How did the Slapmeister General spin things?


He started off by saying that fans are only upset when NBA players get huge contracts. Nobody cared when bums like Mike Hampton and Kevin Brown (yes, he called those guys bums) got big money, or that Scott Gomez and Hossa got twelve year deals. It took him until 9:11 to finally spit out that the NBA is 74% balck, and that's why casual sports fans (read: Whitey) don't like the big deals.

Here is Kevin Brown's BR page:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... ke01.shtml

Goff said this guy is a bum. :lol:

Author:  denisdman [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:36 am ]
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I've tuning into ESPN 1000 the last few weeks. It sucks, but at least it isn't that load of garbage. And I used to like Goff and Spiegs, just not together.

You can't have a legit discussion about DRose or LeBron with Goff because anything negative is perceived through the race lens.

Author:  denisdman [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:38 am ]
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Chus wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Took him until 9:10 to play it. Actually surprised didn't open the show with it

?? Details? How did the Slapmeister General spin things?


He started off by saying that fans are only upset that NBA players get huge contracts. Nobody cared when bums like Mike Hampton and Kevin Brown (yes, he called those guys bums) got big money. It took him until 9:11 when he finally said that the NBA is 74% balck, and that's why casual sports fans (read: Whitey) don't like the big deals.



People always bemoan athlete contracts. I can't believe what starting pitchers are getting paid for a such a risky (health) position on the diamond. And the majority of those big pitcher contracts are to white guys.

Author:  Chus [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:39 am ]
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denisdman wrote:
I've tuning into ESPN 1000 the last few weeks. It sucks, but at least it isn't that load of garbage. And I used to like Goff and Spiegs, just not together.

You can't have a legit discussion about DRose or LeBron with Goff because anything negative is perceived through the race lens.


I'm not switching from bad to worse. At 9:11, I put on some music. I was in the car.

Author:  Kirkwood [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:53 am ]
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Goff as usual is mistaken in his criticism.

There was shock and awe when Stanton received his contract but eventual acceptance. Stanton is the best pure slugger in MLB.

A player like Mike Conley received one of the highest contracts in recent NBA history simply due to poorly designed rules.

The whining is the individual artificial ceiling forcing teams to fuck themselves.

Author:  pittmike [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:54 am ]
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Pretty much anyone in the NFL besides QB's that gets big money is not white.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:04 pm ]
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Chus wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Took him until 9:10 to play it. Actually surprised didn't open the show with it

?? Details? How did the Slapmeister General spin things?


He started off by saying that fans are only upset when NBA players get huge contracts. Nobody cared when bums like Mike Hampton and Kevin Brown (yes, he called those guys bums) got big money, or that Scott Gomez and Hossa got twelve year deals. It took him until 9:11 to finally spit out that the NBA is 74% balck, and that's why casual sports fans (read: Whitey) don't like the big deals.

Here is Kevin Brown's BR page:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... ke01.shtml

Goff said this guy is a bum. :lol:
Big Perp should've directed him to the Samardzija thread here.

Author:  Gloopan Kuratz [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:06 pm ]
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Wait until the Bulls sign some white guys. Or light skinned brothers.

Author:  Nas [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:12 pm ]
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Chus wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Took him until 9:10 to play it. Actually surprised didn't open the show with it

?? Details? How did the Slapmeister General spin things?


He started off by saying that fans are only upset when NBA players get huge contracts. Nobody cared when bums like Mike Hampton and Kevin Brown (yes, he called those guys bums) got big money, or that Scott Gomez and Hossa got twelve year deals. It took him until 9:11 to finally spit out that the NBA is 74% balck, and that's why casual sports fans (read: Whitey) don't like the big deals.

Here is Kevin Brown's BR page:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... ke01.shtml

Goff said this guy is a bum. :lol:


There is some truth to what he's saying. I think that the problem that the overwhelming majority of the people have is the contracts don't make sense in the NBA system. No one really cares when it comes to MLB because huge contracts makes sense in their system.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:23 pm ]
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Chus wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Took him until 9:10 to play it. Actually surprised didn't open the show with it

?? Details? How did the Slapmeister General spin things?


He started off by saying that fans are only upset when NBA players get huge contracts. Nobody cared when bums like Mike Hampton and Kevin Brown (yes, he called those guys bums) got big money, or that Scott Gomez and Hossa got twelve year deals. It took him until 9:11 to finally spit out that the NBA is 74% balck, and that's why casual sports fans (read: Whitey) don't like the big deals.

Here is Kevin Brown's BR page:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... ke01.shtml

Goff said this guy is a bum. :lol:


That's worse than when he didn't know who Zoilo Versalles was.

The main reason people don't get as concerned about big contracts in baseball- especially in large markets- is that there is no cap. A bad contract in hoops is going to hamstring your team. The Mets are still paying Bobby Bonilla and it isn't stopping them from sweeping the greatest team in history.

Author:  pittmike [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:25 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Chus wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Took him until 9:10 to play it. Actually surprised didn't open the show with it

?? Details? How did the Slapmeister General spin things?


He started off by saying that fans are only upset when NBA players get huge contracts. Nobody cared when bums like Mike Hampton and Kevin Brown (yes, he called those guys bums) got big money, or that Scott Gomez and Hossa got twelve year deals. It took him until 9:11 to finally spit out that the NBA is 74% balck, and that's why casual sports fans (read: Whitey) don't like the big deals.

Here is Kevin Brown's BR page:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... ke01.shtml

Goff said this guy is a bum. :lol:


There is some truth to what he's saying. I think that the problem that the overwhelming majority of the people have is the contracts don't make sense in the NBA system. No one really cares when it comes to MLB because huge contracts makes sense in their system.


Right Nas, but you know that is nit what he is trying to stir up.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:28 pm ]
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His entire premise is shit. I don't know what fucking social media he's using but it's full of "that guy isnt worth it , that's crazy money, no one deserves that that kind of money even when mediocre white guys sign huge deals.

Author:  leashyourkids [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:33 pm ]
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The other reason people focus on basketball players switching teams (in addition to the money) is because basketball is viewed through the prism of individual players. It is the only sport (aside from maybe a QB in football) where one person changing teams changes the entire landscape of the league. In any other sport, a star changing teams doesn't automatically change anything.

Author:  RFDC [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:37 pm ]
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Beardown is going to be pissed he did not get to start this thread.

Author:  Chus [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:41 pm ]
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Kirkwood wrote:
Goff as usual is mistaken in his criticism.

There was shock and awe when Stanton received his contract but eventual acceptance. Stanton is the best pure slugger in MLB.

A player like Mike Conley received one of the highest contracts in recent NBA history simply due to poorly designed rules.

The whining is the individual artificial ceiling forcing teams to fuck themselves.


That and NBA bums make more money than guys like Toews and Kane.

This was low level race baiting, even for a dope like Goff.

Author:  Nas [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:46 pm ]
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pittmike wrote:
Nas wrote:
Chus wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Took him until 9:10 to play it. Actually surprised didn't open the show with it

?? Details? How did the Slapmeister General spin things?


He started off by saying that fans are only upset when NBA players get huge contracts. Nobody cared when bums like Mike Hampton and Kevin Brown (yes, he called those guys bums) got big money, or that Scott Gomez and Hossa got twelve year deals. It took him until 9:11 to finally spit out that the NBA is 74% balck, and that's why casual sports fans (read: Whitey) don't like the big deals.

Here is Kevin Brown's BR page:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... ke01.shtml

Goff said this guy is a bum. :lol:


There is some truth to what he's saying. I think that the problem that the overwhelming majority of the people have is the contracts don't make sense in the NBA system. No one really cares when it comes to MLB because huge contracts makes sense in their system.


Right Nas, but you know that is nit what he is trying to stir up.


I don't disagree with you. I didn't actually listen.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:47 pm ]
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Camps' guy Baffoe tried to make the same point on Twitter yesterday.

He had as much success.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:47 pm ]
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Chus wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Goff as usual is mistaken in his criticism.

There was shock and awe when Stanton received his contract but eventual acceptance. Stanton is the best pure slugger in MLB.

A player like Mike Conley received one of the highest contracts in recent NBA history simply due to poorly designed rules.

The whining is the individual artificial ceiling forcing teams to fuck themselves.


That and NBA bums make more money than guys like Toews and Kane.

This was low level race baiting, even for a dope like Goff.

Curious Hair wrote:
Yeah about that Toews contract .....

Author:  leashyourkids [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:48 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Camps' guy Baffoe tried to make the same point on Twitter yesterday.

He had as much success.


I bet you agreed with him, huh?

Author:  Nas [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:49 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
His entire premise is shit. I don't know what fucking social media he's using but it's full of "that guy isnt worth it , that's crazy money, no one deserves that that kind of money even when mediocre white guys sign huge deals.


The general public have issues with these contracts because they see sports as a game and believe their jobs are difficult. It's been this way for about 40 years and it won't change. Some guy will make damn near $100M a year in the next 30 years.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:50 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Camps' guy Baffoe tried to make the same point on Twitter yesterday.

He had as much success.


I bet you agreed with him, huh?


:x

Anyone who signed with the Red Sox and Yankees in the last 10-15 years got the same scorn as Durant did.

Author:  Chus [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:52 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Chus wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Took him until 9:10 to play it. Actually surprised didn't open the show with it

?? Details? How did the Slapmeister General spin things?


He started off by saying that fans are only upset when NBA players get huge contracts. Nobody cared when bums like Mike Hampton and Kevin Brown (yes, he called those guys bums) got big money, or that Scott Gomez and Hossa got twelve year deals. It took him until 9:11 to finally spit out that the NBA is 74% balck, and that's why casual sports fans (read: Whitey) don't like the big deals.

Here is Kevin Brown's BR page:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... ke01.shtml

Goff said this guy is a bum. :lol:


There is some truth to what he's saying. I think that the problem that the overwhelming majority of the people have is the contracts don't make sense in the NBA system. No one really cares when it comes to MLB because huge contracts makes sense in their system.


What you are saying makes complete sense. He was obviously framing it as if you think the contracts are ridiculous, then you are a racist. This was just another pathetic attempt by him to shame whitey, because some people on twitter said so and so.

And I don't know in which cave he has lived for the last twenty years, but MANY people have been bitching about the crazy money baseball players get. Samardzija, Pablo Sandoval, Barry Zito, Darren Dreifort, Carl Crawford, A-Rod, Pujols, Hamilton, etc.

Author:  Colonel Angus [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:53 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Some guy will make damn near $100M a year in the next 30 years.

That's amazing, considering the mount of time he spends here posting.

Author:  leashyourkids [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:53 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
His entire premise is shit. I don't know what fucking social media he's using but it's full of "that guy isnt worth it , that's crazy money, no one deserves that that kind of money even when mediocre white guys sign huge deals.


The general public have issues with these contracts because they see sports as a game and believe their jobs are difficult. It's been this way for about 40 years and it won't change. Some guy will make damn near $100M a year in the next 30 years.


If there wasn't a cap in the NBA, I think you'd be seeing at least 50-75 MIL contracts right now.

Author:  Chus [ Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:58 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
His entire premise is shit. I don't know what fucking social media he's using but it's full of "that guy isnt worth it , that's crazy money, no one deserves that that kind of money even when mediocre white guys sign huge deals.


The general public have issues with these contracts because they see sports as a game and believe their jobs are difficult. It's been this way for about 40 years and it won't change. Some guy will make damn near $100M a year in the next 30 years.


It makes my skin crawl when dopey fans say shit like, "I would play for 10% of what they make, and they don't think they make enough". The problem is nobody is paying to watch you play.

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