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Author:  Tad Queasy [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:13 pm ]
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They are VERY Derrick Rose intensive today.

Author:  Godfella [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:16 pm ]
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Parkins professes his sincere love and adoration for D-Rose.

Says it bothers him that people here hate him.

I don't hate him - I'm just glad he's New York's problem now.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:19 pm ]
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Godfella wrote:
Parkins professes his sincere love and adoration for D-Rose.

Says it bothers him that people here hate him.

I don't hate him - I'm just glad he's New York's problem now.

Works for me.

Author:  Cashman [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:19 pm ]
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Godfella wrote:
Parkins professes his sincere love and adoration for D-Rose.

Says it bothers him that people here hate him.

I don't hate him - I'm just glad he's New York's problem now.



This is not going to go well for Jules Dicaro.

Author:  Tad Queasy [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:21 pm ]
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Parkins said he's take PEDs if it would make him better at his job and a caller went off on him saying he has no integrity, etc., and he has no respect for him. :lol:

Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:23 pm ]
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Did I just randomly tune in to hear Parkins dickishly dismiss a listener shit b/c said listener stated he believed that integrity is more important than fame/money?

Author:  Ron Wolfley [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:27 pm ]
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Derrick put up 30 points, 10 boards, and 5 dimes last night. Why does Spiegel think this thing gets worse? He's going to make a lot of money this summer.

Author:  Tad Queasy [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:30 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
Did I just randomly tune in to hear Parkins dickishly dismiss a listener shit b/c said listener stated he believed that integrity is more important than fame/money?


You certainly did.

Author:  jimmypasta [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:43 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
Did I just randomly tune in to hear Parkins dickishly dismiss a listener shit b/c said listener stated he believed that integrity is more important than fame/money?


Somebody should have asked that listener if his cattle are fed steroids in the multiple restaurants he owns/runs.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:45 pm ]
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he probably takes Adderall. no wonder he's so amped up.

Author:  sinicalypse [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:35 pm ]
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WRSE = "We Really Should Eat" ??

Wacky Radio Stuff Engages?

Women Rongey Sexually Enjoys?

Worst Radio Show Ever?

It's gotta be either the first one or last one =P

Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:56 pm ]
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Parkins called Derrick rose a "top-5, maybe top-3 Bulls player of all time". If that is the extent of his basketball analytical ability, they will be well suited to stick to football and baseball. My God, is that a horrendous thought.

Here is where Derrick Rose ranks in some choice statistics [Minimum 20 MPG, 200+ Games]:

Win Shares: 22nd
VORP: 12th
Points: 10th
Assists: 5th
Steals: 18th
PP36: 8th
AP36: 2nd
STLP36: 34th
WS/48: 23rd
TS%: 30th

Rose isn't even in the team photo for Top-5. MAYBE considered for Top-15 Bulls of all-time.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:02 pm ]
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To say top three would be to say Rose is better than everyone who ever played for the Bulls except Jordan and Pippen. He was really good here but I can't get on board with that one.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:06 pm ]
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It's weird that a SJW like Parkins would be a fan of a sexually predator like Derrick Rose

Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:07 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
To say top three would be to say Rose is better than everyone who ever played for the Bulls except Jordan and Pippen. He was really good here but I can't get on board with that one.

No kidding. :lol:

Rodman would've made him cry right there on the court during a game harder than Jordan would've at practice ... not to mention that Van Lier was more 'gangster' than Rose ever might've pretended to be. That's not top 3, 5, whatever.

It's an odd position that Parkins decided to take ... there's no reasonable way to support it either through stats/metrics or meatballism. Maybe he adopted it purely to attract attention, both good and bad ... in which case it's a decent first go at it.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:11 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
To say top three would be to say Rose is better than everyone who ever played for the Bulls except Jordan and Pippen. He was really good here but I can't get on board with that one.

No kidding. :lol:

Rodman would've made him cry right there on the court during a game harder than Jordan would've at practice ... not to mention that Van Lier was more 'gangster' than Rose ever might've pretended to be. That's not top 3, 5, whatever.

It's an odd position that Parkins decided to take ... there's no reasonable way to support it either through stats/metrics or meatballism. Maybe he adopted it purely to attract attention, both good and bad ... in which case it's a decent first go at it.

It should be noted that Rose's MVP season, he was probably one of the "Worst" MVP winners ever. He was the best player on the best regular season team(thanks to an Upstart Thibs and his dynamic defense)

Author:  Curious Hair [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:15 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
Rodman would've made him cry right there on the court during a game harder than Jordan would've at practice ... not to mention that Van Lier was more 'gangster' than Rose ever might've pretended to be.


Derrick would have missed a month after Jerry Sloan kneed him in the balls.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:19 pm ]
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Good luck trying to win an MVP in today's NBA with 25 PPG, 4APG and 7 RPG, great season, but in addition to Lebron and Steph you also go Westbrook pitching a triple double stat line now

Author:  jimmypasta [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:19 pm ]
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Let me name the Bulls with a better career than Rose while wearing a Chicago jersey:

Jalen Rose
Tom Boerwinkle
Bob Love
Dennis Rodman
Chet Walker
Norm Van Lier
Jerry Sloan
Elton Brand
Luol Deng
Artis Gilmore....I'm sure others can add some more

Author:  Caller Bob [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:20 pm ]
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jimmypasta wrote:
Let me name the Bulls with a better career than Rose while wearing a Chicago jersey:

Jalen Rose
Tom Boerwinkle
Bob Love
Dennis Rodman
Chet Walker
Norm Van Lier
Jerry Sloan
Elton Brand
Luol Deng
Artis Gilmore....I'm sure others can add some more


After this year, add Jimmy Butler to that list, based on metrics.

Author:  pittmike [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:21 pm ]
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Reggie Theus, David Greenwood.

Author:  jimmypasta [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:23 pm ]
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For this new guy to make that statement shows he is out of touch with history. He's one of those "I didn't see it,so it doesn't count for shit" kinda guys.

Author:  leashyourkids [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:23 pm ]
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I didn't hear the conversation, but you could easily make the argument that Rose was the third best Bull ever at one given time (his MVP season).

If you're talking entire career, then no... but they're two different discussions.

Author:  jimmypasta [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:24 pm ]
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pittmike wrote:
Reggie Theus, David Greenwood.


Ben Gordon.

Rose had one of the best SEASON'S as a Bull but career wise,no thanks!

Author:  Caller Bob [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:27 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
I didn't hear the conversation, but you could easily make the argument that Rose was the third best Bull ever at one given time (his MVP season).

If you're talking entire career, then no... but they're two different discussions.

Again, one of the worst MVP winners ever. That can be backed up with metrics.

Author:  leashyourkids [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:30 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
I didn't hear the conversation, but you could easily make the argument that Rose was the third best Bull ever at one given time (his MVP season).

If you're talking entire career, then no... but they're two different discussions.

Again, one of the worst MVP winners ever. That can be backed up with metrics.


That's irrelevant to my point unless you think there are other individual seasons outside of Jordan and Pippen that Bulls players have had that are better than Rose's MVP season. The "MVP" part of it has nothing to do with it. My point is that - in a single year - you could make the argument that Rose was the third best Bull ever. You just couldn't make the argument (or even come close) if you're talking about an entire career.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:30 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
I didn't hear the conversation, but you could easily make the argument that Rose was the third best Bull ever at one given time (his MVP season).

If you're talking entire career, then no... but they're two different discussions.

True but the first one is pointless.

Otherwise, we can sit around saying things like at one given time Kerry Wood was the greatest Cubs pitcher ever, or at one given time BigFan was the bored's greatest admin.

Author:  Ron Wolfley [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:31 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
It should be noted that Rose's MVP season, he was probably one of the "Worst" MVP winners ever. He was the best player on the best regular season team(thanks to an Upstart Thibs and his dynamic defense)


This argument is old and stupid. Derrick single-handedly won 62 games that season. Carlos Boozer missed the first 23 games that year and Joakim Noah missed 30 games from mid-December to mid-February. Keith Bogans was the starting SG all year. He averaged 4.4 points per game!

Author:  Caller Bob [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:32 pm ]
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Ron Wolfley wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
It should be noted that Rose's MVP season, he was probably one of the "Worst" MVP winners ever. He was the best player on the best regular season team(thanks to an Upstart Thibs and his dynamic defense)


This argument is old and stupid. Derrick single-handedly won 62 games that season. Carlos Boozer missed the first 23 games that year and Joakim Noah missed 30 games from mid-December to mid-February. Keith Bogans was the starting SG all year. He averaged 4.4 points per game!



Rose's contributions, Thib's nasty defense and a shitty Eastern Conference won them 62 games

Author:  Caller Bob [ Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:34 pm ]
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Jimmy Butler is having the same year Rose had in 2010(with better defense). Jimmy won't sniff an MVP vote. My goodness what could be the difference, oh that's right, the East is kind of tougher now(and the coach sucks).

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