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Author:  City of Fools [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:17 pm ]
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This has been really good, at least this segment. Some good honesty from both Parkins and Grote about the show breakup, Cubs beat to Bears beat, Mark's drinking, etc.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:18 pm ]
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Yes...good listen. Grote just seems like a cool guy.
Author:  Cashman [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:20 pm ]
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Did Grote elaborate on his demotion?
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:21 pm ]
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ELABORATE PL0X
Author:  Dreadnaught847 [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:21 pm ]
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Cashman wrote:
Did Grote elaborate on his demotion?


He said it had nothing to do with booze, went to mitch to discuss his contract, and mitch demoted him. I think that’s it.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:22 pm ]
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Cashman wrote:
Did Grote elaborate on his demotion?


He just said he thought Mitch was joking when he told him and that he was stunned. He wouldn't get into the specific reasons why.
Author:  VI [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:22 pm ]
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Dreadnaught847 wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Did Grote elaborate on his demotion?


He said it had nothing to do with booze, went to mitch to discuss his contract, and mitch demoted him. I think that’s it.


What if someone asked, "Did Pat Hughes have anything to do with you being taken off the Cubs beat?"
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:23 pm ]
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Grote should have gotten the midday show. Would have been a better foil for Bernstein than Lakeview McBro.
Author:  RadioNerd [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:27 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Grote should have gotten the midday show. Would have been a better foil for Bernstein than Lakeview McBro.


But that's not what deCastro wanted ... and Mitch obviously didn't have the stones to protest any of these recent moves.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:28 pm ]
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VI wrote:
Dreadnaught847 wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Did Grote elaborate on his demotion?


He said it had nothing to do with booze, went to mitch to discuss his contract, and mitch demoted him. I think that’s it.


What if someone asked, "Did Pat Hughes have anything to do with you being taken off the Cubs beat?"

A theory I fully subscribe to .
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:29 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
VI wrote:
Dreadnaught847 wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Did Grote elaborate on his demotion?


He said it had nothing to do with booze, went to mitch to discuss his contract, and mitch demoted him. I think that’s it.


What if someone asked, "Did Pat Hughes have anything to do with you being taken off the Cubs beat?"

A theory I fully subscribe to .


What do you theorize was the reason Hughes wanted Grote gone?
Author:  Panther pislA [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:30 pm ]
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What was the question that got the "Can't Do It"?
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:31 pm ]
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Panther pislA wrote:
What was the question that got the "Can't Do It"?


Who at the Score thought Parkins was behind the whole lineup thing.
Author:  Panther pislA [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:34 pm ]
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Weird.

If Goff said he knew about it on Friday, are we really going to believe that Parkins didn't find out about the changes until the following Monday?

I'm calling major bullshit on that one.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:34 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
What do you theorize was the reason Hughes wanted Grote gone?

There was some theorizing that they didn't get along because Grote was too wacky or edgy for Pat. I never bought that. I think it's just that Mitch didn't think Grote could handle play-by-play. I know they had Joniak filling in.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:35 pm ]
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Someone above mentioned 'show breakup' .... which show were they referencing - midday or afternoon? Was there anything inneresting to be heard in the reply?
Author:  Beardown [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:35 pm ]
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I absolutely think Pat Hughes got Grote off the Cubs job. Said it here at the time. Why? Just not his type of guy. Zack is more of his type. Straight broadcaster type. No personality. That's who Hughes wants to work with. Especially the pre and post guy. Because Pat is threatened that that guy will out shine him and take his job. The color guy can be a little goofy in Pat's mind since he's no threat. He's just the ex ball player.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:38 pm ]
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Panther pislA wrote:
Weird.

If Goff said he knew about it on Friday, are we really going to believe that Parkins didn't find out about the changes until the following Monday?

I'm calling major bullshit on that one.


Shep found out before Parkins.

They didn't want one host to know and the other not. They told them both at the same time.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:39 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
What do you theorize was the reason Hughes wanted Grote gone?

There was some theorizing that they didn't get along because Grote was too wacky or edgy for Pat. I never bought that. I think it's just that Mitch didn't think Grote could handle play-by-play. I know they had Joniak filling in.

Well so far the theorizing is just me and Beardown so you probably don’t want to go to the window with that :lol: but yeah, what CH and Beardown said .
Author:  Panther pislA [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:40 pm ]
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Panther pislA wrote:
Weird.

If Goff said he knew about it on Friday, are we really going to believe that Parkins didn't find out about the changes until the following Monday?

I'm calling major bullshit on that one.

By the way, Parkins, I am a fan.

Thanks for adding further color on air.

That's why you are so good and you are helping bring back SCR to its roots - The Fan - you are a stand-up guy.
Author:  Beardown [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:43 pm ]
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http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?f=156&t=110322&p=2881374&hilit=pat+hughes#p2881374
Author:  Panther pislA [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:44 pm ]
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Also, as to the "why would I lie?" question, I would think that the answer to that would be that Parkles had a party after the Friday show and was rubbing elbows with a bunch of dudes affected by the move.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:46 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote:
Panther pislA wrote:
What was the question that got the "Can't Do It"?


Who at the Score thought Parkins was behind the whole lineup thing.

That has Leery written all over it.
Author:  Beardown [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:54 pm ]
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Parkins also said something interesting. He said that there are texters and social media people that think he master mind the change at the SCORE. But he also said there are people at the SCORE that think he master minded it. A caller asked him who those "SCORE people" are and he said "Can't do it".

Larry is obviously one of them.

For the record, I absolutely don't think Parkins had anything to do with the changes. He's too young and just started at the SCORE. No way he has any pull.

One thing that listeners think he master minded it. Another thing that SCORE people think that he made the change. To be in the business and not realize he has no pull means those SCORE people are stupid. It also means there are people at the SCORE that still hate him. Larry leading that hate.
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:06 pm ]
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I doubt Parkins actually knew of the coming changes, but the proximity of his entrance into the market to the changes, as well as the fact that he was getting a promotion out of the deal, of the kind last gotten by Boers and Bernstein after they toiled in middays, meant that people would assume he was advised of them at the very least, if not responsible for them.
Author:  Panther pislA [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:39 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I doubt Parkins actually knew of the coming changes, but the proximity of his entrance into the market to the changes, as well as the fact that he was getting a promotion out of the deal, of the kind last gotten by Boers and Bernstein after they toiled in middays, meant that people would assume he was advised of them at the very least, if not responsible for them.

I will buy the technical answer that he didn't 100% Know For Certain that the changes would occur until Monday, but c'mon.

1. BBForever predicted changes at the station months before this. People at the station did not know everything, but they knew that it involved Mac - I know that for a fact;

2. Mac had Parkins on his podcast well before this, so they obviously did some talking out of school. I can't see how this news waits till Monday (uh, a simple "Hey, would you like to work with me?" had to happen); and

3. The station had brought back Mac through Webb commercials and then weekend stuff well before the announcement.
Author:  HawaiiYou [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:44 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
But he also said there are people at the SCORE that think he master minded it.




Good. They need to think that. Let them think that. Parkins - if you're reading this, mark names. If you don't watch your back over there, they'll kill you.
Author:  Cashman [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:59 pm ]
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Panther pislA wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I doubt Parkins actually knew of the coming changes, but the proximity of his entrance into the market to the changes, as well as the fact that he was getting a promotion out of the deal, of the kind last gotten by Boers and Bernstein after they toiled in middays, meant that people would assume he was advised of them at the very least, if not responsible for them.

I will buy the technical answer that he didn't 100% Know For Certain that the changes would occur until Monday, but c'mon.

1. BBForever predicted changes at the station months before this. People at the station did not know everything, but they knew that it involved Mac - I know that for a fact;

2. Mac had Parkins on his podcast well before this, so they obviously did some talking out of school. I can't see how this news waits till Monday (uh, a simple "Hey, would you like to work with me?" had to happen); and

3. The station had brought back Mac through Webb commercials and then weekend stuff well before the announcement.



Let us not forget the Saturday show with Mac and Parkins a couple months before the change.
Author:  McDude [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:49 pm ]
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They all knew what was going on. Everything else would be a lie. Parkins and Mac doing a show and podcast together. C'mon...
Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:07 pm ]
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Grote said that when Eddie Vedder was a guest, he joked to Pat that he and Eddie were "BFFs", which alarmed Pat...until the following commercial break when Grote explained it was not something dirty as Pat had thought.

Parkins also said his daily jack-off record was 6.
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