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| Author: | MHSPBGLHLG [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
What does Mac do better—as a radio host—than Spiegel? I know Spiegs gets a lot of shit on this board, and by no means am I contending that he doesn’t have shortcomings, but Mac is nothing special these days. What are Mac’s greatest traits/contributions to a radio show in 2018? |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
Mac relates well to the common man. He comes off as genuine. |
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| Author: | Ogie Oglethorpe [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
We are about 2 weeks away from the time of year that Mac truly shines. |
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| Author: | MHSPBGLHLG [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
denisdman wrote: Mac relates well to the common man. He comes off as genuine. If that’s the first thing that came to your mind, it proves my point. Coming off as genuine does not make for compelling sports radio in 2018. He’s noticeably less interesting since he returned full time to the score. Hell, his short lived podcast early in the year was a far better version of himself that the current version |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
MHSPBGLHLG wrote: What does Mac do better—as a radio host—than Spiegel? I know Spiegs gets a lot of shit on this board, and by no means am I contending that he doesn’t have shortcomings, but Mac is nothing special these days. What are Mac’s greatest traits/contributions to a radio show in 2018? He's much better at making people laugh |
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| Author: | MHSPBGLHLG [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: We are about 2 weeks away from the time of year that Mac truly shines. But what specifically makes his views on football so unique or interesting |
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| Author: | Ogie Oglethorpe [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
MHSPBGLHLG wrote: Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: We are about 2 weeks away from the time of year that Mac truly shines. But what specifically makes his views on football so unique or interesting It doesn't matter, his views on football draw ears, heck apparently his views on baseball do as well given how the ratings improved once he took over the afternoon show. At the end of the day, his personality just draws listeners as it isn't offputting as B&G were. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
MHSPBGLHLG wrote: What does Mac do better—as a radio host—than Spiegel? Gets ratings./Thread. |
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| Author: | Ogie Oglethorpe [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
Frank Coztansa wrote: MHSPBGLHLG wrote: What does Mac do better—as a radio host—than Spiegel? Gets ratings./Thread. That is literally all that matters in this discussion. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
Yeah sorry to not be able to give whoever that poster is more quantifiable things but it just is. Mac is simply all of the things mentioned and more packed into a listenable, fun persona. Are there smarter? Yes. More universally well read on all sports? Sure. Those people are not always good at communication in this format. Mac has his issues but he is a top notch Chicago broadcaster when his personal issues are in check. Lucky for us they have been. As for Spiegs, he was simply odd man out. Some have arguments against him but for me those are mostly based on things in his first year or two. He is simply a professional broadcaster but not a top guy. |
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| Author: | MHSPBGLHLG [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: MHSPBGLHLG wrote: What does Mac do better—as a radio host—than Spiegel? Gets ratings./Thread. That is literally all that matters in this discussion. Literally? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
MHSPBGLHLG wrote: Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: MHSPBGLHLG wrote: What does Mac do better—as a radio host—than Spiegel? Gets ratings./Thread. |
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| Author: | Ogie Oglethorpe [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
MHSPBGLHLG wrote: Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: MHSPBGLHLG wrote: What does Mac do better—as a radio host—than Spiegel? Gets ratings./Thread. That is literally all that matters in this discussion. Literally? Yes, are you new to the basics of media business? Radio is a business so the only thing that matters is the people listening so that the sales team can sell time on the station to paid advertisers. |
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| Author: | blackhawksfan [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
It's not rocket science. You entertain people, you get ratings, you keep your job. Look at Scott Ferrall. That guy's been in the business for like 20 + years and he's missing half of his brain. Fact |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
blackhawksfan wrote: It's not rocket science. You entertain people, you get ratings, you keep your job Spiegs and Hanley disagree. |
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| Author: | MHSPBGLHLG [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: MHSPBGLHLG wrote: Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: MHSPBGLHLG wrote: What does Mac do better—as a radio host—than Spiegel? Gets ratings./Thread. That is literally all that matters in this discussion. Literally? Yes, are you new to the basics of media business? Radio is a business so the only thing that matters is the people listening so that the sales team can sell time on the station to paid advertisers. You’re answering questions I didn’t ask. Not sure why. Maybe you’re new to the basics of reading comprehension |
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| Author: | Ogie Oglethorpe [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
MHSPBGLHLG wrote: Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: MHSPBGLHLG wrote: Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: MHSPBGLHLG wrote: What does Mac do better—as a radio host—than Spiegel? Gets ratings./Thread. That is literally all that matters in this discussion. Literally? Yes, are you new to the basics of media business? Radio is a business so the only thing that matters is the people listening so that the sales team can sell time on the station to paid advertisers. You’re answering questions I didn’t ask. Not sure why. Maybe you’re new to the basics of reading comprehension Clearly you do not understand why Mac has a job when the answer is clear to anyone who has a brain. Go subscribe to Sirius if you want to jack off to Goff's voice |
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| Author: | MHSPBGLHLG [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
I asked what makes the current incarnation of Mac better than Spiegel. Saying “look at the ratings” makes no sense. I’m not interested in who gets more ratings in this particular discussion. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
Peoria Matt wrote: blackhawksfan wrote: It's not rocket science. You entertain people, you get ratings, you keep your job Spiegs and Hanley disagree. Those are tricky. There are businesses or situations though where performance is just fine. But it just is believed by management it should be a lot better. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
MHSPBGLHLG wrote: I asked what makes the current incarnation of Mac better than Spiegel. Saying “look at the ratings” makes no sense. You asked what does Mac do better. You were given a correct answer. If that isn't good enough for you, then ask better or different questions.
I’m not interested in who gets more ratings in this particular discussion. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
MHSPBGLHLG wrote: I asked what makes the current incarnation of Mac better than Spiegel. Saying “look at the ratings” makes no sense. I’m not interested in who gets more ratings in this particular discussion. It has been made clear for you already. Here and other places on the board there are generally negative comments about Spiegs and positive about Mac. It is simple as that. Mac appeals to more people's listening tastes than Spiegs does. |
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| Author: | MHSPBGLHLG [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: MHSPBGLHLG wrote: Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: MHSPBGLHLG wrote: [quote= Literally? Yes, are you new to the basics of media business? Radio is a business so the only thing that matters is the people listening so that the sales team can sell time on the station to paid advertisers. You’re answering questions I didn’t ask. Not sure why. Maybe you’re new to the basics of reading comprehension Clearly you do not understand why Mac has a job when the answer is clear to anyone who has a brain. Go subscribe to Sirius if you want to jack off to Goff's voice Huh? What does Goff have to do with this? I hated Goff. |
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| Author: | MHSPBGLHLG [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
pittmike wrote: MHSPBGLHLG wrote: I asked what makes the current incarnation of Mac better than Spiegel. Saying “look at the ratings” makes no sense. I’m not interested in who gets more ratings in this particular discussion. It has been made clear for you already. Here and other places on the board there are generally negative comments about Spiegs and positive about Mac. It is simple as that. Mac appeals to more people's listening tastes than Spiegs does. That last sentence is so vague, it’s useless. |
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| Author: | MHSPBGLHLG [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
Frank Coztansa wrote: MHSPBGLHLG wrote: I asked what makes the current incarnation of Mac better than Spiegel. Saying “look at the ratings” makes no sense. You asked what does Mac do better. You were given a correct answer. If that isn't good enough for you, then ask better or different questions.I’m not interested in who gets more ratings in this particular discussion. You are a pussy. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
Cool. You are vague and useless. |
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| Author: | GoldenJet [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
Mac is a HOF radio personality. Gets ratings. Spiegs, when all is said and done, will have an incredible resume and is also a terrific listen. He knows his shit and has more than enough individuality and strength of personality that he doesn't get swallowed up by his co-host. I've always liked both. |
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| Author: | DAC [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
pittmike wrote: It has been made clear for you already. Here and other places on the board there are generally negative comments about Spiegs and positive about Mac. It is simple as that. Mac appeals to more people's listening tastes than Spiegs does. It's that simple. I don't know what kind of answer you are looking for. The majority of sports talk show listeners want someone they can relate to and they don't want to be talked down to. Spiegel, Bernstein, and Goff do not have the appeal to the everyday, working stiff that Mac has. Look at Mully and Hanley- that was a boring-ass show that did great in the ratings. Mully and Haugh will do the same. Personally, I prefer Spiegel paired with Parkins instead of Mac and Parkins but both shows are high quality. |
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| Author: | MHSPBGLHLG [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
Not one clear specific example of what Mac does well presently. Just a circle jerk of narrative regurgitation |
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| Author: | Franky T [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: At This Point In Their Respective Careers... |
MHSPBGLHLG wrote: Not one clear specific example of what Mac does well presently. Just a circle jerk of narrative regurgitation What kind of answer are you looking for? People like Mac and he gets ratings. Are you looking for someone to quantify why that's the case? They just do. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:01 pm ] |
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MHSPBGLHLG wrote: Not one clear specific example of what Mac does well presently. Just a circle jerk of narrative regurgitation Mac is better at utilizing i.e. exploiting this message board. That's why people on here like him. Don't think there really was a discernible difference in the ratings either. Goff had higher ratings than Mac for the same period last year and Mac's bump from Goff's last book was mostly due to the broadcasting of Cubs games. Its why they hired him in March. Mac used to be good but he is only interested in sports during football season. Spiegel is much more well rounded and knowledgable about sports than Mac happens to be. |
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