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 Post subject: Jordan Howard?
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What did they say about him?

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 Post subject: Re: Jordan Howard?
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Nothing much they just discussed his trade value with Hub..the consensus is he gets a 3rd round at best now. Most likely will be traded this offseason.


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So what we've all known. Unless they get a crazy deal Howard is more valuable to the Bears this season on the roster, and when it comes time to actually try and have at least the shell of a draft class next year Howard will be the first guy they let go for a pick.


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I would trade him now. By the end of this season you may not be able to get a 6th round pick for him.

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Still has a good nose for the end zone and his improvements in the receiving game means he's not totally one-dimensional. Cohen is outshining him, but Cohen is also making a case for being a top 15 or so RB.


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Still has a good nose for the end zone and his improvements in the receiving game means he's not totally one-dimensional. Cohen is outshining him, but Cohen is also making a case for being a top 15 or so RB.


:shock: :lol: :roll:

backs i'd rather be on the bears over cohen

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david johnson
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james white
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Derrick Henry (obviously his production hasnt been there on that crap Tenn team, but would easily pick him over cohen if i had the choice)
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Billy Pootons, you just provided enough evidence to suggest that he’s making a case for being a Top 15 overall back. Well done, sir.

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Derrick Henry? No.


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Well I went from "probably top 15" to "maybe even top 10" when I saw that sad-ass list.


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I would trade him now. By the end of this season you may not be able to get a 6th round pick for him.



Then that's on Nagy..dude has skills.

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 Post subject: Re: Jordan Howard?
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Cohen's not close to top 15. He's good in the receiving RB role but even then he's not special at it. He's a good player. That's about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Jordan Howard?
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Howard has done nothing different this year. It's just that he only gets the ball 8 times a game and gets it on dumb fucking draws and sweeps half the time. He is not suited for this offense, but he would still be very good in some offenses.

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Cohen's not close to top 15. He's good in the receiving RB role but even then he's not special at it. He's a good player. That's about it.

He fits the playcalling a little better than Howard does in this system at least. Cohen is very fungible with others that play similar roles on other teams... a pass catching RB. Just watching him this last week, he tries to bounce everything outside and doesn't realize when he should cut things back.

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Fungible is a great word.

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Howard has done nothing different this year. It's just that he only gets the ball 8 times a game and gets it on dumb fucking draws and sweeps half the time. He is not suited for this offense, but he would still be very good in some offenses.

Yup. He would be awesome the way the Pats were using Michel before he got hurt.

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 Post subject: Re: Jordan Howard?
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Fungible is a great word.

I'm a big fan of fungible because fungible is not really fungible with other words.

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 Post subject: Re: Jordan Howard?
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leashyourkids wrote:
Howard has done nothing different this year. It's just that he only gets the ball 8 times a game and gets it on dumb fucking draws and sweeps half the time. He is not suited for this offense, but he would still be very good in some offenses.

Yup. He would be awesome the way the Pats were using Michel before he got hurt.

And when they bring him in the game, you know he is getting the ball, so he is getting less yards/carry. It is almost a self-defeating process the way they are using him. If someone was looking to trade for him, I agree his value is probably higher now than it would be at the end of the year given his current role on the team.

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Fungible is a great word.

I'm a big fan of fungible because fungible is not really fungible with other words.


I use it to explain to my wife why she doesn't necessarily have to spend cash gifts on "things for her" because money is fungible, and she spends it on "things for her" all the time anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Jordan Howard?
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America wrote:
Still has a good nose for the end zone and his improvements in the receiving game means he's not totally one-dimensional. Cohen is outshining him, but Cohen is also making a case for being a top 15 or so RB.


:shock: :lol: :roll:

backs i'd rather be on the bears over cohen

gurley
barkley
gordon
kamara
hunt
bell
zeke
mccaffrey
david johnson
mixon
hyde
james white
michel
fournette
dion lewis
gio bernard
dalvin cook
freeman
tevin coleman
mark ingram
Derrick Henry (obviously his production hasnt been there on that crap Tenn team, but would easily pick him over cohen if i had the choice)
spencer ware


Derrick Henry averages less yards per carry than a pile of bricks. Cook is a cripple and Carlos Hyde sucks. This list is horrible.

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 Post subject: Re: Jordan Howard?
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Howard has done nothing different this year. It's just that he only gets the ball 8 times a game and gets it on dumb fucking draws and sweeps half the time. He is not suited for this offense, but he would still be very good in some offenses.

Yup. He would be awesome the way the Pats were using Michel before he got hurt.



And the Pats do need a running back...

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 Post subject: Re: Jordan Howard?
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Cohen is not really a runningback, but if you had to clasify him that's what he would be.


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He's a scat back but not even an elite one. Melvin Gordon is an elite version of Cohen

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Last 3 contests he’s averaging 100 receiving yards per game. We’re witnessing the beginning of something insane here.

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Cohen is not really a runningback, but if you had to clasify him that's what he would be.

He is Dennis Gentry with talent.

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