A slave can never leave, but these guys can quit the program if they want. They are more like unpaid interns.

A slave can never leave, but these guys can quit the program if they want. They are more like unpaid interns.

eat my ass

later
douchebag

Always providing valuable contributions and deep insights.

I'm a net positive poster.

If what Mac says is true:

what does it say about the moral integrity of a person who wagers on the outcomes of games where slaves play slaves in football?


this new 'woke' Mac steams more patent hypocrisy than a pile of horse shit ejected from a Hawethorne trotters horse's asshole on a cold cold day.

Mac, I love you, but you can't have it both ways here, embrace the opportunity that football gives kids
from the wrong side of the tracks, but don't call them slaves when you do "who do you love" every week and make your
salary on the backs of these 'slaves'

sometimes, you are so full of shit, you are popular because you have integrity, you are an open book;
the guy who preached toy department of the sports page and 'stick to sports,' starting this SJW bullshit will be your undoing.

just some 2 cents, hope you take it to heart, and tell your partner he is a rich asshole SJW north shore cuck, a more maleable Teinowicz without the sack.
At least Harry stood up to you, when you were out of your skull, this pussy would never do such things.

later
sabu

"College Athletes are slaves" - Dan McNeil (11/26 show) says he won't argue with someone who wants to use that choice of words.

Crazy?

Sane?

Discuss.

It's an absolutely ridiculous argument. The average wage earner especially the vast majority of hourly workers are far closer to slaves than scholarship athletes. Especially those in glamour sports. Football players are closer to people in high profile jobs. The idea that these are impoverished college kids who can't afford McDonald's is ridiculous. Are they exploited? Certainly. But so are entry level analysts at Goldman.

Is the word "slave" in this context charged and hyperbolic? Certainly. But I would have to believe- without having heard the segment- that his point wasn't to compare college football/basketball players to actual slaves, but merely to point out- correctly- that they are exploited and virtually unpaid labor (in spite of their "scholarships").

I expect BRick to show up momentarily to defend this abhorrent system. Boiler Up!

Slave is a stupid way to phrase it that only hurts the logical arguments.

At a minimum, they should be able to make money off their likenesses and appearances. If I want to buy a $500 signed poster of Rondale Moore why shouldn't I be able to?

They also should get a standardized rate for football related activities, but it would pale in comparison to the first thing I mentioned.

Slave is a stupid way to phrase it that only hurts the logical arguments.

At a minimum, they should be able to make money off their likenesses and appearances. If I want to buy a $500 signed poster of Rondale Moore why shouldn't I be able to?

They also should get a standardized rate for football related activities, but it would pale in comparison to the first thing I mentioned.

I would argue that the entire system of big time college sports is an abomination and has no place within a system of higher education. And I say that as a person who would miss watching college hoops.

For some perspective, Lovie Smith is the highest paid state employee in Illinois.

I would say that the issue is that not enough big time college sports programs are self sufficient.

There are no educational benefits to universities operating what amount to professional (though unpaid) football teams. The main "benefits" are television programming/advertising.

In addition to that, actual slaves were often treated just a tad more harshly than collegiate athletes.

I would argue that the entire system of big time college sports is an abomination and has no place within a system of higher education. And I say that as a person who would miss watching college hoops.

For some perspective, Lovie Smith is the highest paid state employee in Illinois.

Well, there is no educational benefit to having a workout facility and pool for the students either but they still have them.

It's another recreational activity for students. It's also used heavily for fundraising on both the athletic and academic side.

To put it another way, if there was no benefit to the university then schools would go the University Of Chicago route and put that money into libraries.

Great point, schools like University of Chicago are doing it wrong. We need fewer University of Chicagos and more Clemson Universities.

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It's another recreational activity for students. It's also used heavily for fundraising on both the athletic and academic side.

This has mostly been disproved in that when a University's athletic program does well it does increase fundraising for, wait for it, wait for it, that same athletic program.

When someone is going to donate 10mm bucks to the State University College of Nursing, they tend not to give any fucks if the football team went to the shit.com bowl that year.

That wasn't what I said. It doesn't have to do with minor bowl games. It has to do with getting people back on campus and the connection to the University. Every home game at Purdue they are honoring a long time donor on the field. They have special alumni events built around those fall weekends. It's also one of the primary things that keeps a connection to the school after graduation. I have not been back to Purdue for a non-football event since I graduated. I can't imagine I would make many special trips there.

Are you going to be disingenuous this whole thread?

Is the kid getting a scholarship at East Carolina getting the better or worse end of the deal versus the school?

Is the kid getting a scholarship at East Carolina getting the better or worse end of the deal versus the school?