See, 7 years later, told you so! Whatever.

My thoughts exactly. Yea, Brown hasn't done shit in the league.

That’s not the point he was making . He said he fell lower in the draft because there were character issues with him coming out of college and they didn’t “ just “ manifest themselves last weekend . Ryan Clark mentioned issues with him going back what 5 years ? He never said he wouldn’t make a good pro. ( to my knowledge anyway )

Regardless, he's been a great NFL WR. He seems like an ass but he's produced like few others. The teams that passed on him really misjudged his talent, jack ass or not.

Spiegel and Parkins: You had Antonio Brown going in the 6th round. Bet you'd have him ranked higher now, huh? Ha-ha-ha...

Greg Gabriel: Ugh...

Repeat for several minutes.

And for several more minutes after that.

Jesus Christ, just drop it already.

Great interview, guys.

It's kind of a dumb tweet already but that last line "teams know what they're doing" is ridiculous. Every team in the NFL would take Brown, even with his issues, with their first pick if they had a do over.

Spiegel is terrible, but credit to him for putting his ego aside to keep working. This much suck for him.

I imagine you don't know Spiegs well enough. I guess he is just fine staying home most days with his wife and kid getting paid by the score and doing his music thing.

It's kind of a dumb tweet already but that last line "teams know what they're doing" is ridiculous. Every team in the NFL would take Brown, even with his issues, with their first pick if they had a do over.

Spiegel is terrible, but credit to him for putting his ego aside to keep working. This much suck for him.

It's kind of a dumb tweet already but that last line "teams know what they're doing" is ridiculous. Every team in the NFL would take Brown, even with his issues, with their first pick if they had a do over.

Spiegel is terrible, but credit to him for putting his ego aside to keep working. This much suck for him.

I think Gabriel is saying things without really saying things there. I mean, Marvin Harrison was seemingly Tony Soprano when not catching touchdowns. Aaron Hernandez had "character issues" but we didn't know the extent of them either.

Gabriel seems to be explaining why he fell in the draft, not that his production has been worth a 6th round pick.

I think it's kind of a dumb argument. Everyone knows that Brown has been a HOF-caliber receiver but there also could have been valid reasons that EVERY NFL team doubted him at least 4 or 5 times in that draft.

Exactly .

I think that would be a perfectly acceptable explanation without the last line. The last line renders the rest of it ridiculous.

What do you mean here? It's not ridiculous to pass on a player if you feel the off field issues will make it unlikely they succeed even with huge talent. Of course, some of those players will end up as stars.

If the issue with Brown is simply that he is a diva wr then of course that is dumb but it doesn't seem like Gabriel was just saying that. I guess we will see if anything else comes out.

Im saying that to say NFL teams "know what they're doing", as if it were the right choice, is ridiculous. And that line implies it was the right decision.

We both know that all 32 teams would take him if they could do it over, so....no...they dont know what they're doing.

In any redraft situation, almost every player would move up or down by a good margin outside of the ones that hit in the top ten. Teams still have to follow a process and his point seems to be that the question marks that all 32 teams had on Brown were valid and that is why he dropped even with his talent. Now, if the only question mark is that he is a selfish WR then that is dumb. To me, it seems like there is a hint of more to the Brown story than him simply being a diva.

In any redraft situation, almost every player would move up or down by a good margin outside of the ones that hit in the top ten. Teams still have to follow a process and his point seems to be that the question marks that all 32 teams had on Brown were valid and that is why he dropped even with his talent. Now, if the only question mark is that he is a selfish WR then that is dumb. To me, it seems like there is a hint of more to the Brown story than him simply being a diva.

Perhaps, but if the guy has any ego at all, and it seems he does, this situation sucks.


"Hey you know that kid we partnered you with? Yea, were keeping him and giving him your other old partner. You're out, but you can fill in from time to time."

Plus, hasn't Spiegel admitted to being pissed about how it all went down?

If he's made his peace with it, that's great.