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Author:  Beardown [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:02 am ]
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For wrongful termination.

Not only should you get your contract money, you should sue for an additional 2 or 3 million.

Here's why. What did you say that's wrong?

You said she looked live a host doing a porn awards show.

Go before a judge and ask why that's a bad thing to say. Because then they'll have to argue that a legal profession is bad. Then they are the prejudiced ones. That argument won't hold up for them. You'll win.

Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:04 am ]
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Beardown wrote:
For wrongful termination.

Not only should you get your contract money, you should sue for an additional 2 or 3 million.

Here's why. What did you say that's wrong?

You said she looked live a host doing a porn awards show.

Go before a judge and ask why that's a bad thing to say. Because then they'll have to argue that a legal profession is bad. Then they are the prejudiced ones. That argument won't hold up for them. You'll win.


If nothing else, he can make other people uncomfortable in digging up their prior trangressions.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:06 am ]
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  Beardown [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:14 am ]
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Why is this so far fetched?

It's not.

The Julie's of the world, while claiming Mac is sexist for this, is actually putting down the good women of the porn industry. A legal industry. They're just doing a job. She's hating on those women by claiming it's an insult. Ya know what, maybe it's a compliment. That's what a lawyer would say in court.

Like I said earlier, if he said she looked like a Doctor, nobody would be mad. What he said is the exact same thing as saying she looked like a Doctor.

Mac would win in court. No doubt in my mind.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:14 am ]
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Beardown wrote:
Why is this so far fetched?

It's not.

The Julie's of the world, while claiming Mac is sexist for this, is actually putting down the good women of the porn industry. A legal industry. They're just doing a job. She's hating on those women by claiming it's an insult. Ya know what, maybe it's a compliment. That's what a lawyer would say in court.

Like I said earlier, if he said she looked like a Doctor, nobody would be mad. What he said is the exact same thing as saying she looked like a Doctor.

Mac would win in court. No doubt in my mind.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  Beardown [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:21 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
Beardown wrote:
Why is this so far fetched?

It's not.

The Julie's of the world, while claiming Mac is sexist for this, is actually putting down the good women of the porn industry. A legal industry. They're just doing a job. She's hating on those women by claiming it's an insult. Ya know what, maybe it's a compliment. That's what a lawyer would say in court.

Like I said earlier, if he said she looked like a Doctor, nobody would be mad. What he said is the exact same thing as saying she looked like a Doctor.

Mac would win in court. No doubt in my mind.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Give me the argument why he wouldn't win? You won't be able to do it.

Author:  Brick [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:23 am ]
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It's all about how the discipline was different with Levine.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:26 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It's all about how the discipline was different with Levine.

Not even remotely comparable.

Author:  Beardown [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:29 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It's all about how the discipline was different with Levine.


That's a good point too.

It's also about saying a Porn host of an award show is a bad thing to be. When it's not. Cuz it's perfectly legal to be a host of a porn award show. So what was bad about it, Julie?

What, you don't like the ladies that bang for money? That's your problem.

It's funny that you pick and choose when you want to be a liberal. I'm gonna be the Social Justice Warrior for the porn girls. How about that?

Author:  Brick [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:36 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It's all about how the discipline was different with Levine.

Not even remotely comparable.
Why isn't it comparable? Two employees posting a sexist tweet on their personal accounts. One got a slap on the wrist and one got fired immediately. It just so happened that one was very highly paid and one likely isn't.

Let Entercom defend those two decisions in court, or at least defend why Mac would believe his tweet was a fireable offense when that one wasn't.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:39 am ]
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One was a direct attack on a African american female, the other was a shared dumb political meme.

Author:  Beardown [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:42 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
One was a direct attack on a African american female, the other was a shared dumb political meme.


Wait, so you're saying if she was white it would be comparable? That's stupid. Race had nothing to do with the joke.

It absolutely is comparable. It's literally the same thing.

Bruce was making fun of Hillary in the joke. Direct attack on her. So if Hillary was black then it's different? That's a stupid thought.

Actually, what Bruce did was worse then what Mac did. Like I said, in court, Mac's comment could be argued as a compliment.

Author:  Brick [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:44 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
One was a direct attack on a African american female, the other was a shared dumb political meme.
Neither of us are lawyers, but I doubt you could win in court with the "The sexist tweet was about a white woman" defense especially when the much more logical explanation is Mac was expensive to a company who is financially struggling.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:48 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
One was a direct attack on a African american female, the other was a shared dumb political meme.
Neither of us are lawyers, but I doubt you could win in court with the "The sexist tweet was about a white woman" defense especially when the much more logical explanation is Mac was expensive to a company who is financially struggling.

I figured a legal opinion that far off would come from shakes not Bob .

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:54 am ]
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Entercom will probably settle for half of his salary and be happy they cut costs on their balance sheet, which is all they care about right now.

Author:  Bagels [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:01 pm ]
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he should sue and have JLN as his lawyer

Author:  blackhawksfan [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:02 pm ]
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What if Mac becomes disgruntled and storms the 670 studio and takes Parkins hostage? That would be more entertaining than a lawsuit

Author:  denisdman [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:10 pm ]
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For a wrongful termination claim to have legs, he must have been discriminated for a prohibited reason- ie sex, race, age, etc. He was terminated for none of those. His termination was directly related to an inappropriate tweet. His only cause of action is breach of contract.

If the Score was smart, they either fired him based on a specific violation of his contract or paid him a severance and got a signed release.

Author:  Nardi [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:11 pm ]
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Mac looks like a plumber.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:14 pm ]
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denisdman wrote:
For a wrongful termination claim to have legs, he must have been discriminated for a prohibited reason- ie sex, race, age, etc. He was terminated for none of those. His termination was directly related to an inappropriate tweet. His only cause of action is breach of contract.

If the Score was smart, they either fired him based on a specific violation of his contract or paid him a severance and got a signed release.

But you had an almost exact same scenario play out like 2 weeks before where an employee wasn’t fired for something arguably worse . How does wrongful termination not cover that ? Does Mr Reinsdorf going to bat for you make that much of a difference ?

Author:  Beardown [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:17 pm ]
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denisdman wrote:
For a wrongful termination claim to have legs, he must have been discriminated for a prohibited reason- ie sex, race, age, etc. He was terminated for none of those. His termination was directly related to an inappropriate tweet. His only cause of action is breach of contract.

If the Score was smart, they either fired him based on a specific violation of his contract or paid him a severance and got a signed release.


My point is why can they determine it was an inappropriate tweet. That's subjective. Go before a judge and say it was a compliment. Why can't it be considered a compliment? Why?

Once again, you can't just say it's not a compliment because it's about porn, you hate porn ladies and you think porn is bad. That's not a good argument. Once again, porn is a legal profession.

I don't care what you think about his comment. Doesn't matter what I think about the tweet either.

I think if you go before a judge, in a court of law, Mac would win.

Author:  denisdman [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:18 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
denisdman wrote:
For a wrongful termination claim to have legs, he must have been discriminated for a prohibited reason- ie sex, race, age, etc. He was terminated for none of those. His termination was directly related to an inappropriate tweet. His only cause of action is breach of contract.

If the Score was smart, they either fired him based on a specific violation of his contract or paid him a severance and got a signed release.

But you had an almost exact same scenario play out like 2 weeks before where an employee wasn’t fired for something arguably worse . How does wrongful termination not cover that ? Does Mr Reinsdorf going to bat for you make that much of a difference ?


This is one of my areas of expertise because we insure these claims. You can fire someone for any reason except a prohibited reason- which are race, age, national origin etc.

They have a reason. Companies choose not to fire people everyday even when their performance is subpar, they are late to work, or they are assholes. That doesn’t mean you can’t fire another person for being late.

What you are describing would have legs if Bruce was white and Mac was black. Mac could argue, you didn‘t fire the white guy who did the same thing as me, and I am black.

Make sense?

Author:  denisdman [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:19 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
denisdman wrote:
For a wrongful termination claim to have legs, he must have been discriminated for a prohibited reason- ie sex, race, age, etc. He was terminated for none of those. His termination was directly related to an inappropriate tweet. His only cause of action is breach of contract.

If the Score was smart, they either fired him based on a specific violation of his contract or paid him a severance and got a signed release.


My point is why can they determine it was an inappropriate tweet. That's subjective. Go before a judge and say it was a compliment. Why can't it be considered a compliment? Why?

Once again, you can't just say it's not a compliment because it's about porn, you hate porn ladies and you think porn is bad. That's not a good argument. Once again, it's a legal profession.

I don't care what you think. I think if you go before a judge, in a court of law, Mac would win.


People get fired all the time for subjective reasons. We have at will employment laws. Now in Mac’s case, he has a contract, which supersedes contract law. That is his only legit claim.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:27 pm ]
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denisdman wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Companies choose not to fire people everyday even when their performance is subpar, they are late to work, or they are assholes.

badrogue17 wrote:
Whew , thank god for that !!



What you are describing would have legs if Bruce was white and Mac was black. Mac could argue, you didn‘t fire the white guy who did the same thing as me, and I am black.

Make sense?


Ok how about they only suspended 2 Jewish people who did almost the exact same thing but fired the gentile ?

Author:  Nardi [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:30 pm ]
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denisdman wrote:
Beardown wrote:
denisdman wrote:
For a wrongful termination claim to have legs, he must have been discriminated for a prohibited reason- ie sex, race, age, etc. He was terminated for none of those. His termination was directly related to an inappropriate tweet. His only cause of action is breach of contract.

If the Score was smart, they either fired him based on a specific violation of his contract or paid him a severance and got a signed release.


My point is why can they determine it was an inappropriate tweet. That's subjective. Go before a judge and say it was a compliment. Why can't it be considered a compliment? Why?

Once again, you can't just say it's not a compliment because it's about porn, you hate porn ladies and you think porn is bad. That's not a good argument. Once again, it's a legal profession.

I don't care what you think. I think if you go before a judge, in a court of law, Mac would win.


People get fired all the time for subjective reasons. We have at will employment laws. Now in Mac’s case, he has a contract, which supersedes contract law. That is his only legit claim.

Be that as it may, Entercom has to prove Mac's tweet was disparaging, which they can, because Mac deleted it. He compounded his original mistake. If he hadn't deleted it, Beardown's point could have legitimacy.

I don't think Mac gets paid and a suit would be thrown out quickly.

Author:  spmack [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:30 pm ]
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I hear he's available.

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Author:  denisdman [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:31 pm ]
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Ask yourself one question, why was Mac fired? Is there any question it was because of that Tweet?

None of the other stuff matters. Did they fire him because he’s over 40? No. Because he’s a christian? No. Because he’s straight? No.

He was fired for a legal reason.

It doesn’t matter how they addressed other employees. That would only be evidence in a case where they fired him for a prohibited reason.

Author:  Beardown [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:32 pm ]
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denisdman wrote:
Beardown wrote:
denisdman wrote:
For a wrongful termination claim to have legs, he must have been discriminated for a prohibited reason- ie sex, race, age, etc. He was terminated for none of those. His termination was directly related to an inappropriate tweet. His only cause of action is breach of contract.

If the Score was smart, they either fired him based on a specific violation of his contract or paid him a severance and got a signed release.


My point is why can they determine it was an inappropriate tweet. That's subjective. Go before a judge and say it was a compliment. Why can't it be considered a compliment? Why?

Once again, you can't just say it's not a compliment because it's about porn, you hate porn ladies and you think porn is bad. That's not a good argument. Once again, it's a legal profession.

I don't care what you think. I think if you go before a judge, in a court of law, Mac would win.


People get fired all the time for subjective reasons. We have at will employment laws. Now in Mac’s case, he has a contract, which supersedes contract law. That is his only legit claim.


Ok. Fine. It's all subjective. Go back to what Rick said. Go to the judge with what Bruce did and ask why the company isn't consistent? Bruce did it a few weeks before Mac. Different actions were taken.

Author:  denisdman [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:33 pm ]
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Nardi wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Beardown wrote:
denisdman wrote:
For a wrongful termination claim to have legs, he must have been discriminated for a prohibited reason- ie sex, race, age, etc. He was terminated for none of those. His termination was directly related to an inappropriate tweet. His only cause of action is breach of contract.

If the Score was smart, they either fired him based on a specific violation of his contract or paid him a severance and got a signed release.


My point is why can they determine it was an inappropriate tweet. That's subjective. Go before a judge and say it was a compliment. Why can't it be considered a compliment? Why?

Once again, you can't just say it's not a compliment because it's about porn, you hate porn ladies and you think porn is bad. That's not a good argument. Once again, it's a legal profession.

I don't care what you think. I think if you go before a judge, in a court of law, Mac would win.


People get fired all the time for subjective reasons. We have at will employment laws. Now in Mac’s case, he has a contract, which supersedes contract law. That is his only legit claim.

Be that as it may, Entercom has to prove Mac's tweet was disparaging, which they can, because Mac deleted it. He compounded his original mistake. If he hadn't deleted it, Beardown's point could have legitimacy.

I don't think Mac gets paid and a suit would be thrown out quickly.


They don’t have to prove anything. It is not illegal to fire someone. They could fire Parkins right now. They just can’t do it because he’s Jewish.

Again though, the contract is another matter.

I am telling you this stuff with 100% certainty. It doesn’t mean he won’t or can’t sue to try to extract a settlement. But they had every right to fire him. The only valid claim would be contractual. I would have to see his contract to know if they had a right under it.

Author:  Beardown [ Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:34 pm ]
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Nardi wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Beardown wrote:
denisdman wrote:
For a wrongful termination claim to have legs, he must have been discriminated for a prohibited reason- ie sex, race, age, etc. He was terminated for none of those. His termination was directly related to an inappropriate tweet. His only cause of action is breach of contract.

If the Score was smart, they either fired him based on a specific violation of his contract or paid him a severance and got a signed release.


My point is why can they determine it was an inappropriate tweet. That's subjective. Go before a judge and say it was a compliment. Why can't it be considered a compliment? Why?

Once again, you can't just say it's not a compliment because it's about porn, you hate porn ladies and you think porn is bad. That's not a good argument. Once again, it's a legal profession.

I don't care what you think. I think if you go before a judge, in a court of law, Mac would win.


People get fired all the time for subjective reasons. We have at will employment laws. Now in Mac’s case, he has a contract, which supersedes contract law. That is his only legit claim.

Be that as it may, Entercom has to prove Mac's tweet was disparaging, which they can, because Mac deleted it. He compounded his original mistake. If he hadn't deleted it, Beardown's point could have legitimacy.

I don't think Mac gets paid and a suit would be thrown out quickly.


Nah. Him deleting it wouldn't be a factor in court. The suit wouldn't be thrown out. Christ, we had somebody beat McDonalds for not warning them that coffee was hot.

Mac has a case. I believe he would win.

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