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| Author: | Jalapenos and More [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Stacey King |
So Stacey King wants kids to play college basketball for two years so NBA teams can better evaluate whom to draft. Well, Stacey, I seem to remember that you played 4 years at Oklahoma and there was plenty of tape on you, so how could you have been a bust with the #6 pick? If you were a highly-touted high school basketball player right now, wouldn't you rather get paid immediately rather than playing that one mercenary season in college, much less the two you're proposing? |
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| Author: | DegenerateDave [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
Jalapenos and More wrote: So Stacey King wants kids to play college basketball for two years so NBA teams can better evaluate whom to draft. Well, Stacey, I seem to remember that you played 4 years at Oklahoma and there was plenty of tape on you, so how could you have been a bust with the #6 pick? If you were a highly-touted high school basketball player right now, wouldn't you rather get paid immediately rather than playing that one mercenary season in college, much less the two you're proposing? Very good call J & M. I don't think it matters what you did in college or not - the NBA is a different league and you either adjust or don't. The only thing I think that truly matters is maturity level. Some 18 or 19 year old kids can handle it and some clearly can't - just like when we were kids - some of us matured much faster and some of us still haven't - guilty as charged. |
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| Author: | Bucky Chris [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
If I was drafting somebody, I would rather have more tape on them, than less tape. Sure it is slightly funny Stacy was opining for 2 years, considering his career... but it doesn't make his opinion wrong. The more the better. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
what a fucking bum he was as a player. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
Stacey was serviceable, give you 15-20 minutes, 8-10 points and a whole bunch of horrible defense. Also, he got the Bull Luc which was key. |
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| Author: | Jalapenos and More [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
He was indeed serviceable (eventually), but drafts in 1980s were, of course, a different animal than they are now. A #6 pick was expected to be at least one of your top 3 players within a year. He never got in shape. Weird as it is to say, if he had adopted some of Joakim Noah's tenacity and, this year, Noah's drive to get stronger, King could've been much better than he was. Mookie Blaylock, Tim Hardaway, and Shawn Kemp were selected after him. |
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| Author: | Jalapenos and More [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
Also, I don't think he's really that good of a game analyst or contributor to the Mac show. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
Jalapenos and More wrote: He was indeed serviceable (eventually), but drafts in 1980s were, of course, a different animal than they are now. A #6 pick was expected to be at least one of your top 3 players within a year. He never got in shape. Weird as it is to say, if he had adopted some of Joakim Noah's tenacity and, this year, Noah's drive to get stronger, King could've been much better than he was. Mookie Blaylock, Tim Hardaway, and Shawn Kemp were selected after him. Overall, I'd say that draft pretty much sucked though. Out of Service Pervis and Danny Ferry as the top of the draft? A lot of teams missed on Kemp and Hardaway. NBA drafts are a crapshoot anyway. Subsequent #6s - 1990 - Felton Spencer 1991 - Doug Smith 1992 - Tom Gugliotta 1993 - Calbert Cheaney 1994 - Sharone Wright 1995 - Big Country 1996 - Antoine Walker 1997 - Ron Mercer 1998 - Robert Traylor 1999 - Wally Szerzibiakiakiaa 2000 - DerMarr Johnson 2001 - Shane Battier 2002 - DaJuan Wagner 2003 - Chris Kaman 2004 - Josh Childress 2005 - Martell Webster 2006 - Brandon Roy 2007 - Yi Jianlian 2008 - Danilo Gallinari I was just going to do a year or two but the level of crap in there was so staggering I had to continue. I'd say any team looking for one of their top 3 from the 6 spot has had a lot of EPIC FAIL. Those guys make King look like an all-star with a few exceptions. |
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| Author: | Jalapenos and More [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: 1990 - Felton Spencer 1991 - Doug Smith 1992 - Tom Gugliotta 1993 - Calbert Cheaney 1994 - Sharone Wright 1995 - Big Country 1996 - Antoine Walker 1997 - Ron Mercer 1998 - Robert Traylor 1999 - Wally Szerzibiakiakiaa 2000 - DerMarr Johnson 2001 - Shane Battier 2002 - DaJuan Wagner 2003 - Chris Kaman 2004 - Josh Childress 2005 - Martell Webster 2006 - Brandon Roy 2007 - Yi Jianlian 2008 - Danilo Gallinari Yikes. I'm not blaming the Bulls for the pick. It made total sense at the time. But more than a few of these guys were better players than Stacey. I count about 8-9, so I guess he's in the middle of the pack. It's pretty obvious who the best player was selected at #6. |
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| Author: | Score is doomed [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
It's called being lazy. Must be too worried about drops, parodies and quoting movie lines. I guess nothing has changed since the last 2 years of MJH. Too bad. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
it's very simple, if you're 6'5" or taller and can shoot a basketball, you are pretty golden in the NBA. then it's all mechanics. |
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| Author: | scorehead # 84 [ Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
Hatchetman wrote: what a fucking bum he was as a player. The next parent of a travel basket or base ball player I hear that has anything good or nice to say about him will be the first. Apparently, he's a dickhead winner and complete asshole loser - not shaking hands, yelling at the officials, etc. 4 yrs of college were not enough for King to mature as a human being. |
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| Author: | Beef Rockmore [ Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
Please, let's see the draft class that Stacey King was a part of. I'd like to relive all the 'great' centers that went after King, as that was the need for the Bulls that particular year. And NBA teams usually draft for need, just ask the team that drafted Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_NBA_Draft There's one center I would have taken over King, and then dozens of Chicago women would have been knocked up a few years later. Jeff Sanders was the bust that year for the Bullies. What a piece of shit. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
Beef Rockmore wrote: There's one center I would have taken over King, and then dozens of Chicago women would have been knocked up a few years later. What about Vlade and Cliff Robinson? |
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| Author: | Beef Rockmore [ Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
JEFF SLEEPY SANDERS WAS THE BUSTER. SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED CLIFF INSTEAD OF HIM. Who knew that Vlade would later turn into Kobe. F'n Jerry West. GENIUS! |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
stacey king had a lot of talent, he was just a lazy, fatass bum. and a pussy to boot. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
He ruined the championship victory celebration in grant park with his shitty "Whoop, there it is". |
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
Hatchetman wrote: what a fucking bum he was as a player. I don't believe he was a bum. I remember one season where Cartwright was injured and King helped the Bulls to win a very impressive % of the games he started. Granted, the team around him was outstanding. but the winning percentage with King starting, was greaterr than with Big Bill starting. Plus, his numbers that year as a starter were pretty respectable. I agree with those who say he should have been a lot better and more consistant. he was a talented offensive player, who failed to get the most from himself. But he wasn't a bum. |
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| Author: | Jalapenos and More [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
I'd hate to see your definition of a bum. King career averages: 6.4 PPG, 3.3 RPG. He didn't average more than 16 MPG during the first 3-peat. |
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| Author: | Frontman [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
DegenerateDave wrote: Jalapenos and More wrote: So Stacey King wants kids to play college basketball for two years so NBA teams can better evaluate whom to draft. Well, Stacey, I seem to remember that you played 4 years at Oklahoma and there was plenty of tape on you, so how could you have been a bust with the #6 pick? If you were a highly-touted high school basketball player right now, wouldn't you rather get paid immediately rather than playing that one mercenary season in college, much less the two you're proposing? Very good call J & M. I don't think it matters what you did in college or not - the NBA is a different league and you either adjust or don't. The only thing I think that truly matters is maturity level. Some 18 or 19 year old kids can handle it and some clearly can't - just like when we were kids - some of us matured much faster and some of us still haven't - guilty as charged. Same can be said about any transition from college to pro. How many Heisman trophy candidates and winners have been busts in the NFL? I can think of a few that were nominated recently who now look like awesome career backup QB's (Leinart, Grossman, Young to name three really quickly.) Personally, I think the whole argument that the kids need the education for a fallback position is moronic. How many college educated people still do stupid things; and I rest my case. |
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| Author: | Beef Rockmore [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
good dolphin wrote: He ruined the championship victory celebration in grant park with his shitty "Whoop, there it is". ...and Will Perdue's attempts at poetry were better? Hang up on your bad self good dolphin. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
B-U-M |
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| Author: | Elmhurst Steve [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
Jalapenos and More wrote: I'd hate to see your definition of a bum. King career averages: 6.4 PPG, 3.3 RPG. He didn't average more than 16 MPG during the first 3-peat. He was a backup to Bill Cartwright during his early years, so he didn't get a lot of opportunity to play. I think unfortunately, he got satisfied with collecting a nice check and watching the game from the bench. He should have had a better career, but he wasn't a bum. In his rookie year he averaged 8.9 points per game in just 21.7 minutes per game. If you extrapulate that to 36 minutes, he would get 14.7 points per game. In 91-92 he averaged 7 points per game, but did so in just 16.1 minutes per contest. If that were extrapulated to a 36 minutes played, he would have had 15.6 points per game. He was no All-Star, but he was no bum either. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Stacey King |
his best year was his rookie year and he was essentially out of the league by age 28. he was a fat brad sellers. |
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