The crosstalk today was so good, I don't think Mac & Terry could get a word in edgewise and I think the guys decided to have a smoke outside what Mac now calls the Marion Brooks Center, a.k.a. NBC Tower, where the SCORE studios are located. Besides, I think Boers made the trip downtown this afternoon.

Bernstein: I'm going to argue your (Meatpants) side.


Meatpants: Let me argue my own side!

The problem is that Spiegel truly did need Bernstein to argue his side for him. Spiegel didn't know what he was talking about half the time and the whole thing came off as contrived.

Mac doesn't really punch holes in Spiegs' theories. Dan just says, "You're wrong" or he calls Matt a name.
Bernsie is willing to discuss the point and slice it to pieces.

The thing to keep in mind is that Bernstein is a master at debating - insert joke here.

Seriously though - Bernstein is so well poised and has his next comment ready to fire while Meat is still working on a defense to his stance. It's clear to me that Bernsy spent a great amount of time on the high school or college debate team - he has learned very well to negate arguments to his point and to diffuse counter points to his.

I like Meat and appreciate him stepping up to the plate against Bernsy - but right or wrong, he is going to come off looking more wrong than right when trading verbal salvos with Bernsy. Bernsy is the king of winning debate and if he doesn't win, he will just verbally undress you.

Bernsie gets himself in trouble when he strays on a topic and paints with a big ole brush. Rosenbloom and Goff made Dan look pretty foolish after some comments a few weeks ago.

I agree with DD's about Dan's talents debating and he can make people look foolish very smoothly. But you've got to admit Meatpants has been finding his voice more and more recently.

If he keeps progressing like this, in my eyes/ears, sooner rather than later I think he'll be challenging Bernstein on some of these issues and coming out on top.


edit: Just listened to the last 2 minutes when he conceded to Bernsy. /facepalm

Problem isn't that Meatpants found his voice. The problem is he doesn't have a clue as to say anything worth hearing. Transition has been good at times; but when its just shouting?

Who gives a crap. Spiegs needs to go back to Sporting News. He's way over his head; and if Mac is to compete with Silvy/Waddle, it better be quick for either Spiegs to get a brain or for Mac to get a new partner.

Bernstein craps out chunks of guys like Meatpants in his stools.

Problem isn't that Meatpants found his voice. The problem is he doesn't have a clue as to say anything worth hearing. Transition has been good at times; but when its just shouting?

Who gives a crap. Spiegs needs to go back to Sporting News. He's way over his head; and if Mac is to compete with Silvy/Waddle, it better be quick for either Spiegs to get a brain or for Mac to get a new partner.

You summed it up well Frontline.

Dear Die Hard, you rock. Especially the part where that dude is on the rooftop. P.S. Do you know Mad Max?

Bernsie, to his credit, knows your side of the argument better than you do.

That is why I email. once can formulate thoughts better.

Bernstein threw him off his argument by meandering away from the subject and confusing Meat, thereby re-focusing him an a direction away from his original argument - that Dan has a contrived deathwish for anything or anyone that a real, traditional type of fan would or does love or appreciate.

As you can see today, given the chance to lick his wounds and re-hash the battle, Meat understands exactly where the debate shifted and can now correct for it. As they continue their battles, eventually Meat will figure out Bernstein and handcuff the fuck out of him. Meat would do his best to be as transparent and unpredictable as possible in his reasoning and argument style so that Dan cannot accomplish the same versus him.

Bump, because Meatpants is at it again.....he's getting clarification on if he was a dumb meatball fan for enjoying Cutler and the preseason game....love it Meatpants keep it up