There is not a single person here that wouldn't put a needle in themselves in a contract year to make your children, grandchildren, and maybe even great grandchildren financially stable for their entire lives. The motivation would be even greater if you came from a poor background.

It isn't likely that you will die at 45 either from steroids. They have negative side effects and overuse can lead to major problems but some medical professionals believe that HGH may become a common therapy eventually for the extension of peoples lives. The science just isn't there yet.

There is not a single person here that wouldn't put a needle in themselves in a contract year to make your children, grandchildren, and maybe even great grandchildren financially stable for their entire lives. The motivation would be even greater if you came from a poor background.

It isn't likely that you will die at 45 either from steroids. They have negative side effects and overuse can lead to major problems but some medical professionals believe that HGH may become a common therapy eventually for the extension of peoples lives. The science just isn't there yet.

Anyone concerned for their family long term wouldn't do something that stupid and shortsighted unless they were uneducated or generally irresponsible. In which case, they'd not be doing it for their family per se, but for themselves under the subterfuge of doing it for the family.
However, Mac is just saying stupid shit like this to get some buzz about the show. it's a hail Mary.

anyone concerned about their family and long term health would never eat a baconator

anyone concerned about their family and long term health would never eat a baconator

Babe Ruth would have.

Something tells me Geovanny Soto has had a few Baconators in his day

And a few cocks too. I mean chicken. Chicken sandwiches. Probably fried. In man goo.

Anyone concerned for their family long term wouldn't do something that stupid and shortsighted unless they were uneducated or generally irresponsible. In which case, they'd not be doing it for their family per se, but for themselves under the subterfuge of doing it for the family.
However, Mac is just saying stupid shit like this to get some buzz about the show. it's a hail Mary.

I understan your point, but the assumption that everyone follows your line of thinking is over the top. There are many different people here with their own views on life. While it may be likely that a good portion of people would do this, it is very presumptuous to say everyone would.

That's not really what I said, but I'll play along.

I'm not about being the morality police. I'm not desperate, Darkside... I'm being honest. If you watch the NFL (my favorite pro sport by a mile) on a big screen.... it's obvious steroids and other performance enhancing drugs are a part of the game. Good nutrition and the weight room don't produce THOSE results alone.

Anyone concerned for their family long term wouldn't do something that stupid and shortsighted unless they were uneducated or generally irresponsible.

That's not really what I said, but I'll play along.

I'm not about being the morality police. I'm not desperate, Darkside... I'm being honest. If you watch the NFL (my favorite pro sport by a mile) on a big screen.... it's obvious steroids and other performance enhancing drugs are a part of the game. Good nutrition and the weight room don't produce THOSE results alone.

Good nutrition and the weight room don't produce THOSE results alone.

If you watch the NFL (my favorite pro sport by a mile) on a big screen.... it's obvious steroids and other performance enhancing drugs are a part of the game. Good nutrition and the weight room don't produce THOSE results alone.

On the other hand, maybe this can be in volume #2 of the list book: "Contrived crap arguments a desperate Dan McNeil tossed out for ratings".

Ha. I didn't notice that. "You don't even begin to see how obvious steroid use is in the NFL until you have viewing equipment as expensive as mine."

Rick. Couldn't you liken this to someone who chooses not to cheat on their taxes or steal someones wallet? Not beacause they are so high and mighty, but simply because they don't want to do illegal stuff. I know the steroid thing is on a much greater scale in terms of money to be made, but people make choices in regard to cheating almost every day...

That is a very good counterpoint.

I guess the difference is that the risk-reward here is much greater. You likely aren't going to jail for steroid use unless you are Barry Bonds who isn't doing it for a new contract anyways. You may be negatively affecting your health but so is playing a sport.

Almost all people who used steroids got away with almost no repercussions. They may have health problems later but they also have changed the future of their entire family.

I'm not saying it's right but I would imagine that I would have been willing to take something, especially HGH which may actually not be bad for you if taken correctly, in order to know that my grandkids can be spoiled trust fund kids.