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Author:  Woodridge Ryan [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:43 pm ]
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He's been on this beat for years. I don't see why length of tour has so much substance for Mac's thoughts on where the Beatles music and influence rank all-time. Touring is great, no doubt. But, if you tour for years and years and years playing the same songs all the time does that somehow make you more credible in the music universe? In my opinion, I don't think I'm knocking the Beatles on the whole touring thing for where they rank in music history. Anyone else?
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:45 pm ]
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I dont really listen to Danny Mac. Is he actually saying that the Beatles are not good because they didnt tour often?
Author:  Darkside [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:45 pm ]
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Woodridge Ryan wrote:
He's been on this beat for years. I don't see why length of tour has so much substance for Mac's thoughts on where the Beatles music and influence rank all-time. Touring is great, no doubt. But, if you tour for years and years and years playing the same songs all the time does that somehow make you more credible in the music universe? In my opinion, I don't think I'm knocking the Beatles on the whole touring thing for where they rank in music history. Anyone else?

If you don't take the music to the fans, then you don't respect your fans.
Some of my best memories are at Dead concerts, or Ozzfest or Suicidal Tendencies at the Metro.
Good times.
Studio music is cool, but bring it to the fans.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:48 pm ]
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Woodridge Ryan wrote:
He's been on this beat for years. I don't see why length of tour has so much substance for Mac's thoughts on where the Beatles music and influence rank all-time. Touring is great, no doubt. But, if you tour for years and years and years playing the same songs all the time does that somehow make you more credible in the music universe? In my opinion, I don't think I'm knocking the Beatles on the whole touring thing for where they rank in music history. Anyone else?

He's probably right, maybe they shouldve just gone on tour year after year playing the same shitty songs over and fucking over until they were as dead as Brian Jones while gouging their fans and charging premiuim prices to hear , oh lets say, Jumpin Jack Flash for the 300th mind-numbing time.
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:50 pm ]
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The Beatles tour now would be subpar at best. Ringo has too much to do and John and George would be trying to eat Paul's brains.
Author:  Woodridge Ryan [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:52 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
Woodridge Ryan wrote:
He's been on this beat for years. I don't see why length of tour has so much substance for Mac's thoughts on where the Beatles music and influence rank all-time. Touring is great, no doubt. But, if you tour for years and years and years playing the same songs all the time does that somehow make you more credible in the music universe? In my opinion, I don't think I'm knocking the Beatles on the whole touring thing for where they rank in music history. Anyone else?

He's probably right, maybe they shouldve just gone on tour year after year playing the same shitty songs over and fucking over until they were as dead as Brian Jones while gouging their fans and charging premiuim prices to hear , oh lets say, Jumpin Jack Flash for the 300th mind-numbing time.


Someone took the bait. :lol:

I don't even know who I like more between Stones and Beatles. I just find this argument for putting the Beatles way below the Stones interesting. I don't agree with it, but wondered where everyone else stood on it.

Some of my favorite moments of living are at amazing concerts, up close to the band, and experiencing the music. But the Beatles just seemed to pump out so much relevant music in a short amount of time it makes me wonder if we should give a damn or not about their lack of touring.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:53 pm ]
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
The Beatles tour now would be subpar at best. Ringo has too much to do and John and George would be trying to eat Paul's brains.

:lol: :lol: , Peace and Love, peace and love
Author:  Hatchetman [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:53 pm ]
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you know, once you've heard a song you like, why try something new?
Author:  badrogue17 [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:56 pm ]
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Woodridge Ryan wrote:
Someone took the bait. :lol:
Some of my favorite moments of living are at amazing concerts, up close to the band, and experiencing the music. But the Beatles just seemed to pump out so much relevant music in a short amount of time it makes me wonder if we should give a damn or not about their lack of touring.

Bait?? what bait?? I wasnt referencing any specific band. :wink:
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:00 pm ]
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Each time that Richards and Jagger keep dragging their moldy asses on the stage just helps strengthen the fact that the Beatles were far and away the better band.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:09 pm ]
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If the argument is the more a band tours the better they are, then the person presenting said argument, they're just country-dumb.

If the argument is the longevity of a band performing live shows how great they are, then be sure to ignore the death of half the Beatles to help keep the illusion working.

Love the Stones, no doubt. Asked to listen to a random song by one or the other, it's probably a 50/50 proposition. The Stones didn't innovate at all, they rolled and adapted with the changes. The Beatles cut a path as a musical as well as a touring/performing band.

That all said, how somebody thinks it's an intellectual debate to argue "who's greatest" baffles me.

Besides, neither group were talented for shit compared to Steely Dan. :D :wink:
Author:  badrogue17 [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:12 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:

Besides, neither group were talented for shit compared to Steely Dan. :D :wink:

Well that goes without saying, DT :)
Author:  Woodridge Ryan [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:13 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:

Love the Stones, no doubt. Asked to listen to a random song by one or the other, it's probably a 50/50 proposition.


With you on that and the whole ranking thing to begin with. However, it just amuses me that has such an influence on Mac's thought of who is better.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:17 pm ]
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Led-Zeppelin toured constantly. From '69 thru '75 they were absolutely relentless on the road.

They also tended to be one of the sloppiest live acts around, so touring doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Author:  Woodridge Ryan [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:18 pm ]
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I'd never heard the before Frank. You might have just baited Mac with that comment :D

Of course, if that's well known in music circles maybe he already knew this.
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:19 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Led-Zeppelin toured constantly. From '69 thru '75 they were absolutely relentless on the road.

They also tended to be one of the sloppiest live acts around, so touring doesn't necessarily mean anything.


Terry's guy told me that drugs may have contributed to the sloppiness
Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:20 pm ]
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Led-Zeppelin toured constantly. From '69 thru '75 they were absolutely relentless on the road.

They also tended to be one of the sloppiest live acts around, so touring doesn't necessarily mean anything.


Terry's guy told me that drugs may have contributed to the sloppiness

Yeah, but Terry's Peeps says it was the whores too.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:22 pm ]
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Does anybody remember laughter??
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:23 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Led-Zeppelin toured constantly. From '69 thru '75 they were absolutely relentless on the road.

They also tended to be one of the sloppiest live acts around, so touring doesn't necessarily mean anything.

Source?

Ive heard nothing but good things and Rock n Roll is supposed to be a little sloppy


Zepplin was also crankin out full length albums during the tours.

FACT : Zeppelin > Beatles and Rolling stones
Author:  Irish Boy [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:26 pm ]
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ITT: people talk about bands no one will give a shit about in 50 years
Author:  Woodridge Ryan [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:26 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:

FACT : Zeppelin > Beatles and Rolling stones


For my own tastes, I agree. However I don't think this is an actual fact. Can you quantify this? Ask Bernsie.
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:27 pm ]
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Beatles > Zeppelin >/= Stones
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:28 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Zepplin was also crankin out full length albums during the tours.


A lot of it being the same "reimagined" crap that's generally unlistenable past the age of 22.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:30 pm ]
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beatles > (stones + zep)*2
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:32 pm ]
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I'm gonna need my old algebra book if we continue down this road :lol:
Author:  Vincent Antonelli [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:34 pm ]
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I prefer Zep, but to say one better than the other is all opinion. Not to speak for Mac, but his stance seems to be they became studio musicians. Part of a rock band is to get out and play for people the way it was meant to be.
Beatles became bad when too many drugs and Lennon getting to wierd.
Zep became too hit or miss on albums.
Stones should have hung it up a LONG time ago.

And as studio musicains, DT is right, the Dan were musically superior to the Beatles. Plus the put on a good show to this day. :wink:
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:37 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Zepplin was also crankin out full length albums during the tours.


A lot of it being the same "reimagined" crap that's generally unlistenable past the age of 22.

What?

I thought they made Zeppelin 2 and 3 while on tour?

Shirley from Whats happening thats not what youre talking about...
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:39 pm ]
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Woodridge Ryan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:

FACT : Zeppelin > Beatles and Rolling stones


For my own tastes, I agree. However I don't think this is an actual fact. Can you quantify this? Ask Bernsie.

No no its a fact


1 + 1 = 2

4 + 4 =8

Band with Ringo Starr in it < Led Zeppelin
Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:41 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
What?

I thought they made Zeppelin 2 and 3 while on tour?

They did
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:41 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
No no its a fact


1 + 1 = 2

4 + 4 =8

Band with Ringo Starr in it < Led Zeppelin


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