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Author:  Darkside [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:06 am ]
Post subject:  If you say Clapton is overrated

Then you know nothing about music. You don't know anything about guitar.
It's one thing to dislike the style of music.
It's another thing to not have the slightest idea of the technicial ability.
Thanks.
-Darko.

Author:  spmack [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:07 am ]
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I like the song he did with Babyface.

Author:  WestmontMike [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:14 am ]
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When I hear Clapton on the radio, I change the station.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:16 am ]
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WestmontMike wrote:
When I hear Clapton on the radio, I change the station.


This

He can play, but his post-1970 music is shit.

Author:  Krazy Ivan [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:17 am ]
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I like Clapton...

Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:17 am ]
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I wish he would have fallen out the window.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:17 am ]
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i know he's good, but he does nothing for me.

Author:  spmack [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:19 am ]
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doug - evergreen park wrote:
i know he's good, but he does nothing for me.

No, I didn't see that response coming.....

Author:  Darkside [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:19 am ]
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That's fair.
Like I said... one thing to be disinterested in the style, I get that. Hell, I'm not a clapton fan at all. But to say he's over-rated reeks of not knowing what you're talking about.
In my opinion.

Author:  Rod [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:20 am ]
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sjboyd0137 wrote:
He can play, but his post-1970 music is shit.


I agree. It's been all downhill since Derek and the Dominos. The remake of "Layla" on acoustic with that old bastard sitting on a chair is an atrocity against mankind.

Author:  spanky [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:20 am ]
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His "level of entertainment" value to me is nearly zero.

(insert falling kid joke here).

Author:  Krazy Ivan [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:20 am ]
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I think Darkside is over-rated...

Author:  Darkside [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:21 am ]
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Krazy Ivan wrote:
I think Darkside is over-rated...

How can anyone be overrated when the rating is crap to begin with?

Author:  spmack [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:22 am ]
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Krazy Ivan wrote:
I think Darkside is over-rated...

He hasn't been the same post-White Shadow.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:23 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
He can play, but his post-1970 music is shit.


I agree. It's been all downhill since Derek and the Dominos. The remake of "Layla" on acoustic with that old bastard sitting on a chair is an atrocity against mankind.


Rumor is that he's a big Vampire Weekend fan as well. :D

For me, I like his work with The Yardbirds, Cream, and Blind Faith. I really don't like the one Derek and the Dominos album, but that may be overkill because it was one of my dad's favorites.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:26 am ]
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blues guys are boring, imo.

Author:  SteveSarley [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:27 am ]
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Darkside wrote:
Then you know nothing about music. You don't know anything about guitar.
It's one thing to dislike the style of music.
It's another thing to not have the slightest idea of the technicial ability.
Thanks.
-Darko.

It's not just the technical ability, it is how his playing fits the song.
I know I am a dinosaur, but I still think he is the best, although there are many great guitarists.
One thing about Clapton is that if I am listening to someone else's song that he plays a solo on, I know it is him playing. His sound is very recognizable and unique to him.

Author:  WestmontMike [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:30 am ]
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doug - evergreen park wrote:
blues guys are boring, imo.


That's because they're blue...They just lost their woman and they have no money. Give em a break.

Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:32 am ]
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Reminds me of a funny interview my guy Scott Lucas did with the Onion about a year ago. I think his thoughts are spot-on.
http://www.avclub.com/chicago/articles/scott-lucas-on-going-solo-what-he-learned-from-nic,37842/

Quote:
The A.V. Club: Your list of unfortunate solo bids starts off with Eric Clapton.

Scott Lucas: I think the Eric Clapton thing was just—he was in Cream, which was great. The Derek And The Dominos record was terrific. And then pretty much everything he’s done solo has been absolute total shit. It’s pretty embarrassing. I mean there’s the cover of “Cocaine,” which is pretty terrific. That’s about it. I think the worst thing he ever did was that acoustic version of “Layla,” and just gutted it. He’s probably the worst, worst dude that I can think of that’s ever gone solo.

AVC: But a lot of people have made that argument. Have you ever heard of anyone defending Clapton’s solo stuff?

SL: I don’t know. Who could defend it? The '80s stuff is so bad and that seems like what what’s-his-face, Mr. Aniston, seems to really be swinging for all the time. John Mayer! So [Clapton’s] given [Mayer] a template, which is another thing that he’s going to burn in hell for. And that whole “Tears In Heaven” song reminds me of that Mr. Show bit, “Sad Songs Are Nature’s Onions.” Yeah, it’s really bad. Bad career move going solo, which is incredible because he sincerely is one of the best guitar players ever. And I love that Cream stuff so much and there is just no excuse for what happened to him.

AVC: So what do you think happened?

SL: Probably no taste, you know. He’s just not good by himself. He’s not good calling the shots.

AVC: And being unchallenged?

SL: I think he thrives in a band. The last thing he did that was really terrific might have been that first Roger Waters solo record [The Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking]. He put him back in a band and he was great. He was on fire. Anything you see him doing where he’s part of a duo or he’s working off of somebody or even if he just shows up and plays one song it’s pretty great. But he loves Phil Collins, and there are just so many things that are bad about him.

AVC: Are you saying there is no such thing as a good Phil Collins song?

SL: You know what? I see this Phil Collins/Genesis resurgence happening lately and I am not with it. I am not down with it and no one will ever change my mind. I remember those solo Phil Collins records and I remember Invisible Touch and I remember all that stuff that came out and there’s no amount of afterglow nostalgia that will make me forget "Land Of Confusion" and how awful it was.

AVC: So, getting back to Clapton. When you make the decision to go solo, are these things in the back of your mind? Are you concerned that you’ll need to be accountable and challenged?

SL: I think with this it wasn’t really thought out. It was like, “Wow, these songs are never going to work as a Local H record.”

AVC: Well, you never intended for these to see the light of day on any record originally.

SL: Yeah, not really. It was the kind of thing where before I even knew what was going on, half the record was written. I didn’t necessarily think that this would be anything that anybody would ever want to hear. So it wasn’t really a conscious decision to go solo. And I think one of the worst things about going solo is, “Well this sounds exactly like the band that they just went solo from.”

AVC: But not as good.

SL: Yeah, that never happens. It’s never as good. Right. But it’s like, what’s the point? What would be the point of even trying something like this if it’s just going to sound like the last record your real band made?

Author:  spmack [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:33 am ]
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WestmontMike wrote:
doug - evergreen park wrote:
blues guys are boring, imo.


That's because they're blue...They just lost their woman and they have no money. Give em a break.

Doug should like blues, then.

Author:  Darkside [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:37 am ]
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spmack wrote:
Krazy Ivan wrote:
I think Darkside is over-rated...

He hasn't been the same post-White Shadow.

Image

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:39 am ]
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spmack wrote:
Doug should like blues, then.


I have a woman and I'm doing fine.

Author:  Urlacher's missing neck [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:39 am ]
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Is Meatosaurous becoming Clapton?

I respect the skill set yet have no desire to ever listen to it.

Author:  spanky [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:40 am ]
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Darkside wrote:
spmack wrote:
Krazy Ivan wrote:
I think Darkside is over-rated...

He hasn't been the same post-White Shadow.

Image

How did I miss spmack's comment earlier??
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  Darkside [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:55 am ]
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spanky wrote:
How did I miss spmack's comment earlier??
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Foe list?

Author:  spmack [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:02 am ]
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doug - evergreen park wrote:
spmack wrote:
Doug should like blues, then.


I have a woman and I'm doing fine.

Sorry, I missed it. Congrats. 2 weeks?

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:05 am ]
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Making money off your dead kid is a turn off for me

Author:  Keyser Soze [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:05 am ]
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Mac is dismissing Clapton's blues career because he doesn't like blues music.

I don't like basketball so I'm going to dismiss that Michael Jordan guys basketball career and judge him solely by his baseball career. Man, did that guy suck!

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:14 am ]
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spmack wrote:
Sorry, I missed it. Congrats. 2 weeks?


4 months.

Author:  Darkside [ Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:18 am ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Making money off your dead kid is a turn off for me

Not exactly true but ooooooo kay man.

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